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Original SubmissionApril 20, 2021 |
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Dear Simon, Thank you very much for submitting your manuscript "Social foraging in vampire bats is predicted by long-term cooperative relationships" for consideration as a Short Report by PLOS Biology. As with all papers reviewed by the journal, yours was evaluated by the PLOS Biology editors as well as by an Academic Editor with relevant expertise and by three independent reviewers. You'll see that the reviewers are broadly positive about your study, but each has a number of textual and/or presentational requests to improve the paper (plus some minor analyses). Based on the reviews, we will probably accept this manuscript for publication, provided you satisfactorily address the remaining points raised by the reviewers. Please also make sure to address the following data and other policy-related requests. IMPORTANT: a) Please attend to all of the requests from the reviewers. We note reviewer #2's suggestion that you remove the section (line 405) about calls; we actually think that this would be of interest to our readers, and if you decide to retain it, we suggest that you move one of the relevant (and rather interesting) supplementary Figs into the main main manuscript. Indeed, as a Short Report, you are allowed up to 4 main Figures, so if you feel that one of the other supplementary Figures would help address any of the clarity issues raised (especially for our broader readership, then do feel free to "promote" it to the main paper. b) Please address my Data Policy requests further down. Essentially, we need the directly underlying data for some of the Figs to be provided, and for the location of the data to be cited in the legends. As you address these items, please take this last chance to review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. 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Please ensure that your Data Statement in the submission system accurately describes where your data can be found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DATA NOT SHOWN? - Please note that per journal policy, we do not allow the mention of "data not shown", "personal communication", "manuscript in preparation" or other references to data that is not publicly available or contained within this manuscript. Please either remove mention of these data or provide figures presenting the results and the data underlying the figure(s). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REVIEWERS' COMMENTS: Reviewer #1: This paper is interesting, particularly in the use of proximity sensors in free-ranging bats. Overall, the data appears sound and the writing clear. Specific comments on the manuscript: Line 89: change to "departing, following, or foraging" Lines 101-102: state which species of vampire bat Lines 139 and 141: If you recorded 277 co-feeding cases, why were only 201 use in the analyses? Line 157: Can you give more details about mechanism behind the proximity sensors, or at least reference the supplemental material here. Lines 211-212: what is meant by "visual light"? Light not visible to the cows? The bats? Line 214: Is this a different roost from the one used for the other data collection? Please clarify. Line 220: Subsequently Line 252: What is meant by "hour bin" in this sentence? Lines 352-354: Please reword/clarify this sentence. The variation was greater than expected? Line 392: p = 0.063 is not significant... reword this sentence Line 399: Please explain why this is only "weak" evidence, when your statistical results don't differ from what you consider stronger evidence for other comparisons above. Line 502: "not a limited resource" seems to contradict what you say above and below about competition for wounds. End of discussion: Include a concluding statement at the end. Best of luck on your paper. Reviewer #2: This is an interesting topic, asking pertinent questions in a relevant and fascinating model system. An awful lot of work has gone into gathering these data. Figure 1 was particularly useful for explaining the framework. I do have some comments and suggestions. General comments: (1) What are the effects of having those animals in captivity? What is the carry-over effect? How natural would they be expected to behave, given they have been fed for a long period of time under captive conditions? (2) What is the accuracy of the proximity loggers? (3) What is the time between the data was gathered in the published study (Ripperger et al 2019) and it being used in this study? What is the likely stability of these associations? If published in 2019, likely gathered some time before that. (4) Mass of loggers. These are high as a % for flying animals. General level of acceptance is 5%. 6.9% is high. Could this have restricted their flight duration? And caused clustering due to reduced flight durations? Line 184, Lines 233-256: I struggled to follow everything in this section. Is it possible please to walk the reader a little slower through what was done here. Line 325: Out of interest, why do you think they wait so long before departing the roost site after dark? Lines 326-329: Is this a possible carry-over effect of captivity? Line 330: Should moon phase be controlled for in your analyses? Lines 353-357: Yes, greater than expected by chance. But what is the cattle had been highly clustered for various reasons, meaning the food source is highly concentrated (this is post cattle corralling). Is this just a product of food distribution? Lines 378-386: These are quite confusing for the reader to follow. Could you possibly elaborate here and provide more information and detail. Line 386-388: "Tended". It's either significant or it is not. It is not. Line 405: This reads a little like an afterthought and add on. I would actually suggest removing this entirely from the paper, as it gets lost amongst all the other findings. It would work better as a stand-alone paper, presenting the novelty of this call. Discussion: Figure 1 does a great job of visualising the logic behind these analyses and findings. I would suggest referring back to it to in the Discussion to keep the same structure and framework. Line 427: What would be the benefit of foraging together? It would only be beneficial if individuals co-operate? Otherwise greater risk of prey becoming alert to presence? Lines 462-466: Is it just site preference that explains these findings? Certain individuals have preferred foraging areas, due to previous success there, and thus return? Line 469: Over distance can these calls be heard? How close does an individual have to get to another individual to be able to hear these calls? Discussion General Comments: The Discussion does a good job of describing the results, but I don't think it really sets the results into any perspective, and is very narrow focused. It almost exclusively talks about the current study, with very little reference to prior work or work outside the immediate system. The limited reference to prior work is all bats. In contrast, the Introduction is broader and encompassing. As a consequence, the Introduction and Discussion feel quite disconnected. How do individuals recognise each other? It would be useful to have a few sentences describing this, for the benefit of non-specialist readers. I think the Latin names of species need adding where appropriate. Reviewer #3: I very much enjoyed reading this manuscript, and I felt it fit the format of a 'Short Report' perfectly. Specifically, the research uses a range of new technologies and a charismatic system to shed new light on the relationship between social foraging and social relationships (particularly cooperative ones). As well as the broader implications, the findings also provide some novel new natural history type discoveries on this particular species too (which is great). I found that the writing was strong and concise, and that the methods and analyses were intuitive and suitable for providing these findings and the emerging conclusions drawn from them. As such, I only have minor comments on this manuscript (primarily just in relation to clarifying specific aspects of the report). Abstract Line 30: Change "controlling" to "accounting" Line 31: The "and a previously undescribed call type" comes across as a bit 'out-of-the-blue' here. I think if readers first read the abstract before the full manuscript, they won't know what this means or what it is referring to at this point (I didn't). Introduction I very much enjoyed the introduction and found it to be broadly appealing and span a great deal of systems. In some places, it felt like it could perhaps benefit on also making reference to other types of benefits/resources (rather than focussing on foraging), as actually a lot of the concepts here apply to any resource or need. For instance, Fleischmann et al. 2011 Current Biology (https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(13)00784-7.pdf) may be of interest to make reference to, as it considers how bats weigh up social relationships compared to access to preferred roosting sites (instead of focussing entirely on foraging). If the authors hope to keep the focus on foraging needs in the introduction (particularly given the nature of a 'short report' format), then perhaps it may just be beneficial to make some reference in the discussion to say that the concepts considered here actually extend beyond foraging, and future work could also be considered in relation to other needs/resources. Line 102: I don't think the phrase 'we used unpublished data' is needed here, as (1) I think the data will be published alongside the manuscript? And (2) I don't think previously-unpublished data should be viewed as innately more valuable than published/open data. Line 106-107: The final line of the introduction phrases the study a little too narrow and confined to a single social consideration within a single species, when actually I think the importance of these findings can be phrased in a much broader sense, as they give new general/fundamental insights into this phenomena in animal systems. Methods Line 150-151: The MS states "The results of this constrained permutation test and the unconstrained Mantel test were similar and gave the same conclusion so we report only the results from the double permutation test" But, given the amount of interest in these analytical techniques at the moment, and how standard models compare to those of null models, I would recommend including both sets of results (and placing one set in the supporting information for the more interested reader to refer to). Line 153: Why was a '1 hour' window chosen here? Were any other thresholds tried? Line 189-190: Change "see figure 2 in Ripperger et al. (2020b)" to "see Ripperger et al. (2020b)" Results Through the results, I'm unsure about which type of p values are being reported. Are these all the p values associated with the standard model parameters that are being reported? Or are these the p values derived from a separate permutation test against the standard model? If it is the latter, I recommend referring to it as 'P-null=' instead of just 'P='. If it is the former, then I think this needs specifying right at the start (and made clear in the methods). Line 356: The wording of '10 among 8' is a little confusing (sounds impossible at first notice), and this comes from this difficulty in the separation between foraging encounters and foraging pairs. I think this sentence and related phrases needs rephrasing for clarity. Perhaps it needs to be that each time a number is used, the associated term is also used e.g. instead of just saying '…10…', say '….10 foraging encounters…', etc. L388: Why were one-tailed tests used here? Perhaps I missed this explanation in the methods, but would be good to make clear in results too briefly if using these. Discussion Line 423-425: This second sentence of the discussion contains the key findings, but is currently a little complex to digest easily. I suggest breaking this into two sentences that follow on from one another. Line 483-503: I think that these two short (and separately sub-headed) paragraphs would be better if they were integrated into a single paragraph/subheading (as social dominance is captured broadly within competition anyway). Line 540-541: The final sentence of the discussion is phrased a little too methodological for an paper with such important fundamental findings. I think it would be more exciting to end the discussion with a sentence or so about the breadth of these findings and what they now suggest should be the future priorities/possibilities of interest. Figure 1 Really found this figure very helpful to see exactly what was being tested in the manuscript. I suggest slightly changing the figure title from "…how within-roost relationships predict foraging…" to "…how within-roost relationships could predict foraging…" Figure 2 Another great and useful figure. One question though, the legend states "To facilitate visual comparisons, we fixed the spatial coordinates of each node" but unclear how it was fixed? How were the positions in the circles defined initially, and which network were the positions fixed on? Or was it a 'best fit' position taken from average position over two separate networks? I hope the authors find these minor comments useful for this interesting work. Best wishes Josh Firth (please note, I sign all of my reviews). |
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