Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionAugust 16, 2023 |
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Dear Dr. Ward, Thank you very much for submitting your manuscript "Attentional selection and communication through coherence: Scope and limitations." for consideration at PLOS Computational Biology. As with all papers reviewed by the journal, your manuscript was reviewed by members of the editorial board and by several independent reviewers. In light of the reviews (below this email), we would like to invite the resubmission of a significantly-revised version that takes into account the reviewers' comments. As one major point, both reviewers asked to better discuss existing literature, and to also report experimental results which contradict model results/predictions. Limitations of the model should be stated clearly, and claims about the explanatory power of the modelling approach reduced accordingly. We cannot make any decision about publication until we have seen the revised manuscript and your response to the reviewers' comments. 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If you anticipate any delay, please let us know the expected resubmission date by replying to this email. Please note that revised manuscripts received after the 60-day due date may require evaluation and peer review similar to newly submitted manuscripts. Thank you again for your submission. We hope that our editorial process has been constructive so far, and we welcome your feedback at any time. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions or comments. Sincerely, Udo A. Ernst Guest Editor PLOS Computational Biology Thomas Serre Section Editor PLOS Computational Biology *********************** Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Authors: Please note here if the review is uploaded as an attachment. Reviewer #1: The review is uploaded as an attachment. Reviewer #2: In this work, the authors expand on a previous model that described how the interactions of two "cortical" populations oscillating at 40Hz are coordinated by oscillations of two "pulvinar" populations oscillating at 10Hz. The previous work established the "best" phase offset between the two gamma and alpha oscillations for signal transmission. In this work, they extend this to two separate cortical populations in each area to explain selective routing of information as is seen in the context of attentional selection. They discuss the benefits and limitations of this model. It is well-written and has a rather broad scope. The work is generally solid and rigorously tests a simple model of phase-dependent routing of information during "attention". It nicely captures several experimentally observed effects such as a boosting of coherence and signal transmission for an "attended" population that can be selected either in a top-down or bottom-up process. They also make explicit that high coherence values between two areas do not necessarily mean that information exchange is happening. However, there are also several drawbacks, discussed below: In general the paper would benefit from more graphical representations of the data. Except for the model schematic and the figure from a previous paper, there is only a table for all results. A graphical representation of how the signal (enhancement), coherence and MI is affected by phase difference, connectivity strength, noise,... would be beneficial for the reader to understand the relationships between these different variables and the different effect sizes and compare them. Similarly, the way the "signal onset effect" (ln 264), "signal onset enhancement" (ln 283) and "signal enhancement effect" (ln 284) (are they all the same?) is computed, is not entirely clear. Here, too, a graphical representation of what max and mean measures mean would be helpful. They should plot an example, perhaps the one from row 1 of their example table, and visualize the actual signals (V1 and V2), the signal time course and their readout of the max and mean signal effects. Another problem is, that the work here is not really well understood without knowledge of the previous paper. They do briefly introduce this model, but then immediately jump to the discussion of Figure 1 and the signal onset effects, which have not been introduced to the reader. Figure 1 is not really understandable without reading the previous paper. They should explain their measures and hypotheses better for the reader. If their point for Figure 1 is, that both quasi cycles and noisy sine-waves for the alpha yield similar results, they should also choose the same phase offset. If their point is, that the signal propagation is maximal, when the phase offsets match, one part of the figure would likely also be enough. Instead, a figure of the respective oscillations with the added signal and how it propagates to the other area, for example for two exemplar phase offsets could be more helpful. A question that might be discussed would be, that in this model, top-down attentional selection works by inhibiting the Pulvinar population that corresponds to the unattended signal. However, in reality, there is not just one other population, but often the entire visual field, except the attended location (for spatial attention) or all neurons NOT encoding the attended feature (for feature-based attention). This would mean the higher level attentional process would need to drive all but the attentionally selected reticular populations. How could this be biologically plausibly implemented? Especially in the case of feature-based attention (without a retinotopic map) this might be difficult to achieve. It is unclear from the text, whether the capture of attention by a salient signal would be enough to win the TRN competition alone, or whether the reallocation of top-down bias input is additionally strictly necessary. In all cases the authors discuss bottom-up attentional capture, they also mention the reallocation of top-down attention. But could the attention be shifted also without this? How big would the signal differences need to be to win the TRN competition? The need to invoke top-down processes for all attentional shifts would seem to be a rather slow mechanism, involving the traveling of the new salient signal to frontal areas and back, before a saccade could happen to the new attended location. But perhaps this is not necessary. However, this is not clear from the manuscript. A precarious point about the plausibility of this model for attentional effects is the enormous signal-boosting effect the authors see when adding noise to the signal, even without any additional alpha inputs. Here, instead of a 10% or so boost they see with "attention", they suddenly see a more than tripling of the signal amplitude, simply by adding noise without attending. They mention this, but don't truly discuss why this large mismatch in effect size comes about, what it could mean, and/or how the level of noise relates to this. Regarding Coherence through Connectivity: In Schneider et al. the main point is, that coherence is seen in the LFP simply through rhythmic synaptic inputs to a target area, even without an ongoing oscillation or spike-entrainment in this target area. This case is however never tested in this model, as, even without an alpha input, all cortical areas always still oscillate at the same gamma frequency, putatively responsible for a lot of the coherence they see. The discussion of this in the results is rather short compared to how much the authors highlight this point in the introduction and also the abstract. Their argumentation of this putatively being the mechanism for "unattended" information transfer needs further clarification for the reader. The section "Onset vs total signal effects" is raising a perhaps interesting point. Yet the reader cannot judge how transient the signal-boosting effect is, without ever seeing a time-course. I reiterate my point of more graphical representations being extremely useful for the reader. For the section "Paradox re alpha", the authors should either include this in the discussion or perform actual simulations with ongoing, competing alpha and gamma oscillations in the two cortices as they suggest here. This would be testable. Otherwise, this should not be in the results section because it is purely speculative. Biophysically it seems highly unlikely, that the gamma oscillatory (likely a PING mechanism) could on a millisecond time scale (as they discuss here) switch to suddenly be alpha oscillators by changes in synaptic properties. Similarly, their discussion of the Chen results seems misguided. There is no evidence in the field that SOM cells are involved in the generation of alpha oscillations. A highly unnatural optogenetic drive to SOM cells at 5Hz makes the circuit resonate at that frequency, however, this is not plausibly happening under naturalistic conditions. SOM cells have instead been shown to be responsible for a low gamma oscillation between about 25 and 30Hz by Chen et al. and others. Also, these experiments were done in mice, which do not show alpha oscillations with properties comparable to primates. ********** Have the authors made all data and (if applicable) computational code underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data and code underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data and code should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data or code —e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Figure Files: While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. 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Dear Dr. Ward, Thank you very much for submitting your manuscript "Attentional selection and communication through coherence: Scope and limitations." for consideration at PLOS Computational Biology. As with all papers reviewed by the journal, your manuscript was reviewed by members of the editorial board and by several independent reviewers. The reviewers appreciated the attention to an important topic. Based on the reviews, we are likely to accept this manuscript for publication, providing that you modify the manuscript according to the remaining recommendations of the second reviewer.. . Please prepare and submit your revised manuscript within 30 days. If you anticipate any delay, please let us know the expected resubmission date by replying to this email. When you are ready to resubmit, please upload the following: [1] A letter containing a detailed list of your responses to all review comments, and a description of the changes you have made in the manuscript. Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out [2] Two versions of the revised manuscript: one with either highlights or tracked changes denoting where the text has been changed; the other a clean version (uploaded as the manuscript file). Important additional instructions are given below your reviewer comments. Thank you again for your submission to our journal. We hope that our editorial process has been constructive so far, and we welcome your feedback at any time. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions or comments. Sincerely, Udo A. Ernst Guest Editor PLOS Computational Biology Thomas Serre Section Editor PLOS Computational Biology *********************** A link appears below if there are any accompanying review attachments. If you believe any reviews to be missing, please contact ploscompbiol@plos.org immediately: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Authors: Please note here if the review is uploaded as an attachment. Reviewer #1: Dear Authors, you have addressed all my previous concerns comprehensively. The inclusion of the missing arguments has strengthened the discussion significantly. From my side, there are no further objections, and I am happy to recommend the manuscript for publication. Reviewer #2: This manuscript has significantly improved. The starting point is explained much better and should now also be understandable without having to read the previous paper. It discusses the possible mechanism for attentional switching, where letting pulvinar alpha arrange gamma oscillations between V1 and V2 leads to enhanced signal transmission. It also outlines how and where the model fails to capture experimentally observed attentional effects or acts erratically. The discussion has been significantly expanded, adding more nuance to the results and placing them into context much better. The graphical depictions of the signals and the onset effects are extremely helpful for the reader. Where they depict the signal time courses (Figures 1 and 4), they could, however, label the x-axes with seconds or ms, not with samples as they have done here. That way, it would also be straightforward to see whether the oscillation that is visible is alpha or gamma, which is now only possible by checking the methods. However, I reiterate my point of potentially also plotting different outputs of the model against the input variables to get a better idea of their relationships. Mean sigoe as a function of signal strength, signal noise, connectivity strength... Many of these are discussed in writing, but a simple plot is much more directly conveying this information to the reader than extracting this information from a table or writing. Is there any experimental evidence, that the large, transient increase in oscillatory strength at the onset of the signal also happens in experiments? minor: line 93: "maximum" should be "maximal" sentence in ln 101 ff could be rephrased for clarity ln 105 "our" should be "their" to keep it third person as they started. ln 737: "though" should be "through" ********** Have the authors made all data and (if applicable) computational code underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data and code underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data and code should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data or code —e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No: ********** PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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Data must be deposited in an appropriate repository, included within the body of the manuscript, or uploaded as supporting information. This includes all numerical values that were used to generate graphs, histograms etc.. For an example in PLOS Biology see here: http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1001908#s5. Reproducibility: To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. Additionally, PLOS ONE offers an option to publish peer-reviewed clinical study protocols. Read more information on sharing protocols at https://plos.org/protocols?utm_medium=editorial-email&utm_source=authorletters&utm_campaign=protocols References: Review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. 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Dear Dr. Ward, We are pleased to inform you that your manuscript 'Attentional selection and communication through coherence: Scope and limitations.' has been provisionally accepted for publication in PLOS Computational Biology. Before your manuscript can be formally accepted you will need to complete some formatting changes, which you will receive in a follow up email. A member of our team will be in touch with a set of requests. Please note that your manuscript will not be scheduled for publication until you have made the required changes, so a swift response is appreciated. IMPORTANT: The editorial review process is now complete. PLOS will only permit corrections to spelling, formatting or significant scientific errors from this point onwards. Requests for major changes, or any which affect the scientific understanding of your work, will cause delays to the publication date of your manuscript. Should you, your institution's press office or the journal office choose to press release your paper, you will automatically be opted out of early publication. We ask that you notify us now if you or your institution is planning to press release the article. All press must be co-ordinated with PLOS. Thank you again for supporting Open Access publishing; we are looking forward to publishing your work in PLOS Computational Biology. Best regards, Udo A. Ernst Guest Editor PLOS Computational Biology Thomas Serre Section Editor PLOS Computational Biology *********************************************************** |
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PCOMPBIOL-D-23-01312R2 Attentional selection and communication through coherence: Scope and limitations. Dear Dr Ward, I am pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been formally accepted for publication in PLOS Computational Biology. Your manuscript is now with our production department and you will be notified of the publication date in due course. The corresponding author will soon be receiving a typeset proof for review, to ensure errors have not been introduced during production. Please review the PDF proof of your manuscript carefully, as this is the last chance to correct any errors. Please note that major changes, or those which affect the scientific understanding of the work, will likely cause delays to the publication date of your manuscript. Soon after your final files are uploaded, unless you have opted out, the early version of your manuscript will be published online. The date of the early version will be your article's publication date. The final article will be published to the same URL, and all versions of the paper will be accessible to readers. Thank you again for supporting PLOS Computational Biology and open-access publishing. We are looking forward to publishing your work! With kind regards, Anita Estes PLOS Computational Biology | Carlyle House, Carlyle Road, Cambridge CB4 3DN | United Kingdom ploscompbiol@plos.org | Phone +44 (0) 1223-442824 | ploscompbiol.org | @PLOSCompBiol |
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