Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionDecember 23, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-40380 Estimating pulse wave velocity from the radial pressure wave using machine learning algorithms PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 01 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In this paper, the authors proposed two machine learning methods to estimate PWV from radial pressure wave obtained with arterial tonometry, by using Gaussian process regression from features extracted from the waveform and using recurrent neural network from the entire waveform. The use of random noises on the data did not change the accuracy of results obtained by RNN analysis. The study has the merit to clearly present methods to provide an accessible PWV estimation by peripheral waveform, with some limitations. These are my remarks: - The proposed methods need to be tested for reproducibility and independent sample external validation. This should be clearly stated in the conclusions. The pulse wave data analysis was performed in a single cardiac cycle, while the reference method (Sphygmocor CvMS) for measurement of cfPWV require several cardiac cycles. Could the authors perform a repeatability analysis in a subgroup of subjects considering more than one cardiac cycle? - Figure 2 and discussion: the heteroscedasticity in the distribution is attributed by the authors to general measurement errors. I partly agree with aurthors. A reduced reproducibility and thus a possible lower accuracy of cfPWV measurement was demonstrated for tonometers such a Sphygmocor at higher PWV values (see Grillo et al. Short-term repeatability of noninvasive aortic pulse wave velocity assessment: comparison between methods and devices. American journal of hypertension, 31(1), 80-88). This is an intrinsic characteristic of measurement and due to the fact that time measurement is placed at the denominator of calculation of PWV. Were the cfPWV measurements in Twins UK cohort performed twice as currently recommended? - Figure 2 and discussion: the distribution in Bland-Altman plots look skewed for higher values. May this cause an underestimation of PWV by algorithms for higher PWV values? Reviewer #2: This is an interesting and well written study. The issue is of high interest for scientists and clinicians. Results could inform future approaches to develop highly efficient tools aimed at facilitating the assessment of CV risk at the population level. Mayor concerns 1- The authors stated that: “Both plots suggested that the accuracy of the PWV estimation deteriorated as the value of PWV increased”. At a visual inspection of the Bland-Altman plot, more that an increase in dispersion at increasing PWV values (heteroscedasticity), a systematic overestimation at increasing PWV value is found, suggesting systematic bias. This could be tested by appropriate statistics (e.g. correlation analysis). Please, check and modify the results accordingly. 2- The authors wrote that “Gaussian process regression can also provide a 95% confidence interval additional to the estimated PWV, which 98% of the measured PWV values were within the 95% confidence interval range”. A similar sentence is replicated also in the discussion (“Gaussian process regression was able to provide a 95% confidence interval for each estimation that covers at least 98% of the measured PWV”). I think that these sentences should be placed in the right context because they may generate a distorted perception of very high levels of accuracy of the estimated PWV approach. I have some concerns in considering the fact that measured PWV falls within 95% of CI range is a measure of accuracy, because accuracy is usually described in terms of absolute SD values or rather as % of explained variance. I think that LOA of 3.21 m/s and -3.11 m/s, and 49% of variance explained suggest limited accuracy. The authors could also refer to Wilkinson IB et al, Artery Research 2010;4:34-40 and rephrase the sentence (especially in the discussion) accordingly. 3- The authors found that the correlation coefficient between age and the difference of the estimated and measured PWV was high, and they suggested that adding age as a predictor could potentially improve the estimation. I have a different explaination related to my point 1. If the difference between ePWV and mPWV increases at increasing PWV, and PWV increases with age, it is quite expected that this variable (difference) has a residual co-linearity with age. Do the authors agree? Rather, it is important to emphasize the fact that the process of PWV estimation is totally independent from chronological age (differently from other approaches). ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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