Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJuly 9, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-21206 Effects of noise on the integration of acoustic and electric hearing within and across ears PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Fu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. This manuscript is structured well with useful findings on the simulated electric hearing (EH) and acoustic hearing (AH) in the presence of noise in both the cases, hearing preservation implantation, and bimodal hearing. Please see the Editor's and reviewers' comments below this email. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 02 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The simulation of CI signal processing tested on listeners with normal hearing serves as one method for evaluating speech understanding when the speech signal has been distorted using the noise vocoder. This assumes that the auditory system beyond the cochlea is "normal" and not affected by whatever oto-toxic agent led to the hearing loss. Thus, these simulations may, or may not, be good benchmarks for evaluation of such processing schemes. This caveat is rarely discussed in papers such as this one that are designed to evaluate speech processors. Another small "flaw" is the lack of a reference for speech processing by listeners with normal hearing when the speech has been corrupted or distorted in other ways. For example, what level of performance would be expected if the noise vocoder were eliminated and only band pass filtering and additive noise were used to degrade the speech signals? Would similar results be obtained at SNRs below zero? Are there other models for combining information across channels that could be evaluated and used for comparison with these results? This manuscript presents useful and timely results that were obtained from carefully designed and conducted experiments. A broader discussion of the implications of the work would be helpful. Reviewer #2: This manuscript provides a detailed analysis of speech perception results for normal hearing subjects listening to simulations of 'electrical hearing' (EH) as applied in cochlear implant devices, and combinations of low frequency acoustic hearing combined with electrical hearing in the same ear (AEH) and opposite ear (bimodal). Monosyllabic word and phoneme scores are tabulated for quiet and for two competing noise conditions for ten young subjects. Two versions of the acoustic input were assessed in an attempt to elucidate the effect of 'tonotopic mismatch' between the electrical and acoustic hearing. The introduction provides appropriate background to the study and the decisions regarding the technical parameters are well justified. The procedures are clearly described and statistical analyses appear appropriate and comprehensive. I had some concerns about the applicability of simulation studies to the real world clinical environment but this is not overplayed by the authors and the limitations are clearly documented. There are a few typos along the way but the paper is generally well-written. Some parts of the discussion are a little difficult to follow and could be reworked somewhat for clarity. Most of the discussion provides reasonable conjectures about the main results that can be summarized as follows: 1. Low frequency acoustic hearing may provide improved speech perception when added to simulated cochlear implant hearing in either the ipsilateral (AEH) or contralateral ear (bimodal). 2. Tonotopic mismatch was found to have a more detrimental effect for speech perception in quiet for AEH than bimodal simulated listening. This effect appeared to decrease with increasing noise. The main conclusion that 'overall performance was poorer when there was a tonotopic mismatch' seems to be overstating the actual results which showed a loss of advantage for AEH (identified as EAS in the final summary - could be better to stick with the same terminology), but not for bimodal simulations or for AEH in noise. Despite my mainly positive comments relating to this manuscript, I have two issues that I believe need to be reworked. These both relate to the analysis of phoneme and word scores in this study and some conclusions that I believe are not justified. Firstly, by definition, word scores must be less than phoneme scores in this type of testing and the relationship is quite deterministic within the experimental error of these measures. Boothroyd and Nittrouer (1988 JASA 84:101-114) used a probability theory model of speech perception to look at contextual effects and showed that the relationship between phoneme and word scores in monosyllables is of the form - word score/100 = phoneme score/100^E, where E, the exponent, is approximately 3 for nonsense words and approximately 2.4 for real words. The exponent reflects the effective number of individual parts (phonemes) that need to identified to identify the word, and the difference between 3 for nonsense, and 2.4 for real words reflects the lexical context effects - ie., the increased probability of guessing a real word correctly compared to nonsense. A recent study has duplicated this result using real clinical data from cochlear implant users (Au, et al, 2018, Hearing Across the Lifespan (HEAL) conference, Lake Como Italy. see attachment). This relationship between phoneme and word scores in monosyllabic testing means that not only will phoneme scores always be lower than word scores (by differing amounts for different scores as the relationship is non-linear) but changes in word scores from one condition to another will predict changes in phonemes scores for the same conditions fairly accurately. The relevance to this study is that phoneme scores being significantly greater than word scores is claimed at numerous points as being an outcome, but it is not an outcome of the study, it is just a consequence of the more or less fixed relationship between such scores. In addition, another conclusion, that the integration efficiency (IE) factor was larger for phonemes than for words in some conditions does not really make sense as the scores (words and phonemes) are inextricably linked by the above relationship. I believe this outcome is a quirk of the mathematics and that, particularly for low scores, phoneme scores grow more rapidly than word scores (eg. phoneme scores have to improve from 0 to around 25% before word scores move from 0%). Note that the AEH advantages (fig.2) and the IE factors are derived from generally low word scores, particularly for SNR=0dB. I feel that the paper should be reworked removing the discussion and conclusions relating to different effects for word and phoneme scores. Reviewer #3: This is a review of PONE-D-20-21206 entitled “Effects of noise on the integration of acoustic and electric hearing within and across ears.” The purpose of this study was to describe the integration of simulated electric hearing (EH) and acoustic hearing (AH) in the presence of noise within an ear, as is the case with hearing preservation implantation, or across ears (bimodal hearing). They investigated cases of simulated EH+AH with and without tonotopic mismatch. This manuscript was relatively straightforward, well written, and the results hold high clinical application. There are a few items requiring attention which would significantly improve the manuscript and its overall impact. General comments: A major concern with the study design and interpretation of results is that EAS conditions (EH+AH in the same ear) do not include integration of EH+AH across ears. However, most EAS patients also have acoustic hearing in the contralateral ear. As such, this would result in potential interference both peripherally (within an ear) and centrally (across ears). Though this isn’t a critical flaw, it is something that must be addressed as it impacts the clinical impact of the study. It would also be interesting to mention this as a point for additional study in future simulation studies. Point-by-point comments: Lines 75-77: An explanation here would be valuable regarding how qualitative differences impact integration (include references). Also, there is no mention here regarding binaural integration (particularly for binaural cues) and its influence on source segregation. As mentioned in “General comments,” both would be present with EAS listeners who were combining AH+EH within an ear and across ears simultaneously. Line 97: “inherent” is included twice in this sentence Lines 111-112: Could this also be pertinent for EAS (CI + binaural acoustic hearing)? Figure 1: Red and green bars next to each other are difficult to distinguish for individuals with color blindness. Lines 290-291: This should not be unexpected. Lines 337-346: Real bimodal listeners typically have chronic listening experience in a “mismatch” condition. Also, a singular simulated insertion depth was used in the current study whereas most studies with real bimodal (or EAS) listeners include various different insertion depths. Both issues should be mentioned here as potential reasons for the discrepancy in findings. ********** 6. 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Effects of noise on integration of acoustic and electric hearing within and across ears PONE-D-20-21206R1 Dear Dr. Fu, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Hussain Md Abu Nyeem, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: My apologies to the authors for typographical errors in my review. Of course, word scores are always lower than phoneme scores - I should have checked my review more closely! Removing all mention of the phoneme scores is an interesting way of dealing with some of the confusing findings. Maybe I would have gone the other way and removed the word scores, but I will not argue about the approach. Thank you for your careful revision. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No |
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PONE-D-20-21206R1 Effects of noise on integration of acoustic and electric hearing within and across ears Dear Dr. Fu: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Hussain Md Abu Nyeem Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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