Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionSeptember 11, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-25560 On the difficult evolutionary transition from free-living lifestyle to obligate symbiosis PLOS ONE Dear Mrs Nguyen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewer, who is expert in evolutionary conflicts of interest, found difficulty following many of the arguments, and their relationship to the biology. Therefore please attempt to clarify these in response to the reviewers comments, as far as possible. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Dec 22 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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We will only publish funding information present in the Funding Statement section of the online submission form. * Please remove any funding-related text from the manuscript and let us know how you would like to update your Funding Statement. Currently, your Funding Statement reads as follows: "Linh Phuong NGUYEN Contrat Doctoral no2016-2 Ecole Normale Superieur PSL Research University The sponsors do not play any role in the study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish or preparation of the manuscript". [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In this paper, the authors analyze and describe a model of the evolution of the transition from free-living to obligate symbiosis. Unfortunately I found the paper hard to follow and at a certain point I just got lost. I would be happy to review the article again if it can be substantially clarified. Abstract: I’m confused by the first two sentences. First sentence: Who has suggested this? Endosymbiosis of e.g. mitochondria is often hypothesized to have resulted from a predator-prey scenario, in which case it would not have evolved from what we normally think of as facultative symbiosis. Second sentence: Would e.g. protomitochondria, once engulfed, have the choice of living independently? I feel as though there is one obvious way in which individuals would “give up” the ability to live freely: the organisms which enter into certain symbioses outcompete those which do not, there are payoffs for closer and closer association (e.g. removal of conflict, better exchange of resources), and over time natural selection acts to remove those stretches of DNA which encode for free living, which are no longer needed and hence are a selective burden. So is this really a riddle? (line 15) line 2: “contact”? 27–98: This may be a matter of taste, but I feel that a lot of this material going over existing models probably belongs in the discussion. I found it hard to work out from the introduction what the main message of the paper is. 39: This paper is just by Frank, not Frank and colleagues. 48: “sacrifices” 81: “complete” 100–104: There are lots of different kinds of symbiosis in the world and I think it would help to bring in some concrete examples here to clarify what you are modelling. Does this model apply only to endo/ectosymbiosis? Does it also apply to mutualisms like plant-pollinator and cleaner symbioses? I think it’s more about ecto/endosymbiosis, focusing on the symbiont rather than the host, but because the introduction was quite sweeping—e.g. citing in lines 4–9 previous work that looks very broadly at e.g. mutualisms like cleaner-client and plant-pollinator—it’s hard to grasp what’s being modelled here. Also, the parameter sigma needs to be explained here: when an A makes another A at rate sigma, is the new A associated with the same host as its parent or a new one? 105–112: So this model cannot analyze vertical transmission? If we are indeed focusing on endo/ectosymbioses, isn’t vertical transmission a rather important part of the evolution of obligate symbioses? 117–118: Does this assumption reduce the generality of your model? Why was this assumption used to prevent the population of associations from growing without bound, instead of e.g. a saturating growth function? 136–205: These sections need to be substantially clarified. Moreover, I feel that statements like 167-169 and 190-192, which restate results as statements about geometry, are not helpful. I would appreciate these results being explained in more biological terms. I mostly gave up on the results section at this point. 361–364: Unclear what this sentence means. 409–411: The fact that Trichinella can be induced to grow on intestinal epithelial cells in a lab has no bearing on how “obligate” its symbiosis is in nature. Particularly as the intestine forms part of its natural habitat. What matters is what happens in nature. 414: “sacrifice” Figures, generally: Please provide labels A and B on all the plots, and please left-align, don’t right-align these labels. I have never seen this done before and it’s very confusing. All the plots should have informative axis titles like Fig. 5 so they can more easily stand alone. Fig. 2: From the caption and figure alone, it’s unclear whether this trade-off is a result or an assumption. Obviously this is stated in the text, but it just doesn't help comprehension to have this much ambiguity. I’m sorry I couldn’t be more helpful on this occasion. Best wishes, Nick Davies London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-19-25560R1 On the difficult evolutionary transition from free-living lifestyle to obligate symbiosis PLOS ONE Dear Mrs Nguyen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Thanks for your careful work on this and responding to the prior reviews. The current reviewer has some minor comments that I would like for you to attend to before publication. The article will not need to go out for review again, but there is no way in the PLOS system to allow you to modify the article if we push it straight to accepted. ============================== We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by May 14 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Stephen R Proulx Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: N/A ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: The authors investigate the evolution of obligate symbiosis when symbionts can exist on a continuum between completely free-living, facultative, and obligate. They model a trade-off between host encounter and reproduction, so that symbionts that are best at finding a host reproduce least, and may even require their host's help in order to reproduce at all. Interestingly, while symbionts in the model can be vertically transmitted, vertical transmission is both independent of obligacy and not sufficient to maintain a symbiont population. Instead, both facultative and obligate symbionts produce free-living progeny while in symbiosis. This is an interesting model that seems applicable to many symbioses. The model of obligate symbionts that are not purely vertically transmitted seems like a great way to separate the evolution of obligacy from the evolution of transmission mode. I only have some minor comments. The authors mentioned in the supplement that they didn't determine the stability of the positive equilibrium when the trivial equilibrium was unstable. It would be nice add to the supplement some information about the stability of that equilibrium for a few parameter combinations, just as reassurance that nothing strange is going on for some reasonable parameter values. Fig. 1 appears to be missing. Lines 82-83: Since symbionts can always reproduce inside the host in this model, it might be better to say that free-living organisms are distinct from facultative symbionts because they are unable to enter into a symbiotic relationship (beta = 0). Lines 109-110: I found this a bit vague. Would it be possible to add that the host population size is kept constant at N? Fig 6 caption: "Black points indicate the ESS values that are corresponded with different values of B." I couldn't find any black points. Does this possibly refer to the colors in the plots? Line 254: Is "condition (x)" supposed to have a number in place of x? Lines 263-265: I think this should be "Then, b is no longer a constant but depends on x. As this involves consideration of how the host responds to the symbiont, and thus of coevolution..." Line 301-303: I don't understand this sentence. Does it mean that x will be the same in both cases or that b will become 0? Supplement: mu here is mu_0 in the main text. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files to be viewed.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email us at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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On the difficult evolutionary transition from the free-living lifestyle to obligate symbiosis PONE-D-19-25560R2 Dear Dr. Nguyen, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. Thank you for completing these changes. The addition of the stability analysis is a nice touch. I would like to apologize for the delay in processing your re-submission, it is entirely due to me being caught up with other responsibilities and I apologize for the long wait. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Stephen R Proulx Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-19-25560R2 On the difficult evolutionary transition from the free-living lifestyle to obligate symbiosis Dear Dr. Nguyen: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Stephen R Proulx Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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