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| Original SubmissionApril 23, 2025 |
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Dear Dr. Selman, Thank you for submitting your manuscript “Tests of the Oddity Effect Hypothesis in mixed-species parid flocks” to PLOS One. I regret that I am unable to accept your paper for publication in Plos One in its present form. However, I would be prepared to consider for publication a substantially revised version that takes into account the suggestions of the reviewers. Such a revised paper would be reviewed and there would be no guarantee of acceptance. As you can see, both reviewers agree that the study could, in principle, be a meaningful contribution to our understanding of the behaviour of animals in mixed-species groups, but also raise important issue regarding the soundness of the analyses, the clarity of the rationale for the study in general and specific approaches in particular, and identify a weakness in terms of power that needs to be acknowledged and incorporated in a substantial revision of the discussion and interpretation of the findings. In particular, R1 highlighted how the small sample size is not sufficient to draw robust conclusions, and since this aspect cannot be fixed post-hoc, the interpretation of the findings need to be consequently toned town to acknowledge this aspect. Additionally, R2 raised important concerns on the statistical approach used, and recommends the used of mixed models as a more suitable way to take into consideration multiple potential factors that could affect your analysis. I urge you therefore to revise the analyses and the discussion in light of the new findings. Finally, both reviewers have a number of other comments (detailed below), which you should address in your revision. With best regards, Valeria Mazza Acedemic Editor PLOS ONE ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 31 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? -->?> Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available??> The PLOS Data policy Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English??> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** Reviewer #1: Manuscript ID: PONE-D-25-21798 Title: Tests of the Oddity Effect Hypothesis in mixed-species Parid flocks General comments This is a manuscript regarding a very interesting topic, not very investigated. However, I found some weaknesses about clarity of methods and results. In particular, you tested the oddity effect hypothesis with very small sizes (i.e. N = 2) for sole birds and although you used non parametric tests, you should be very cautious to draw conclusions. Specific comments Methods 1. Line 150-157 and 178-182: if I understand correctly, in both experiments, you had to wait 10-15 minutes before showing the predator model mount, in which you count birds in the flock. Then you walked to the feeder, placed the model, and returned to the observation place. Don’t you think that the operator could have affected in some way the birds behavior? Do birds remained there, at the feeder, or flew away when you walked to place the predator models? I think that it is important to write something about it, either if operator was disturbing or not. 2. Line 157: how far was the observation place in the screech owl experiment? Was the observer hidden or in plain sight? Please, add these details. Results 3. Lines 205-208: so, to test both the “probability of calling” and the “recruitment” hypotheses, you correlated the same things, i.e. number of conspecifics in the flock vs the latency for the first individual to call. What differed was the prediction, right? Aren’t these hypotheses in contrast? When a bird is rare in a mixed flock either could be silent to doesn’t draw attention (probability of calling hypothesis) or be loud to recruit conspecifics (recruitment hypothesis). I suggest to say something about this, also in discussion, if there is some threshold that lead to one or the other hypothesis, and why a rare bird choose to be quite or loud. 4. Lines 223-225 and 235-242: as I understand, you compared latencies of 2 vs 34 chickadees flocks in the screech owl experiment, latencies of 2 vs 28 chickadees flocks in the hawk experiment, and latencies of 2 vs 28 titmice flocks in the hawk experiment. Therefore, even if you used non-parametric tests, I suggest to be very cautious to draw some conclusions with these results for the oddity effect hypothesis. Discussion and Conclusions 5. As I said in the previous comment, because of the small sample size you should be very careful to draw conclusions about the oddity effect hypothesis, as you said as well in conclusions. However, you seemed very convinced of these results (see lines 263-265, 277-279, 282, 299), but I suggest to rephrase using a more cautious tone. Reviewer #2: General comments: I think this is a nice study, and a good addition to the growing body of literature that is trying to dig into individual behavioral changes in flocking contexts. I do, however, think that the abstract, introduction, and methods could all use some restructuring to make both the question, statistics and field methods clearer. In particular, it is hard to understand exactly what data were taken, whether the data between the two experiments is different, and what the purpose of the two experiments was. I also would strongly consider the authors changing their statistical analysis to take advantage of GLMs and the fact that they can incorporate multiple factors and interactions. I think this reframing in a way that unifies the data and the variability present in the mixed-species flocks may significantly impact the discussion as well. Abstract: Line 15 - This first sentence is confusing and, as it stands, could be interpreted multiple ways. I would advise reframing this and maybe swapping the major points of the first two sentences in the abstract. First, describe rarity, then describe its role in predation. Line 25 - The description of the experiment here is also a bit confusing. Given this is the abstract, there isn't much space to explain further, but the details added here don't clarify your findings and instead pose several questions. Why two experiments? How did they differ? Were they analyzed together or separately? Given that (after going through the rest of the paper) the data for the two experiments are different yet are addressing the same question in very similar ways I would just simplify this and state that you had evidence that at least two species (chickadees and titmice) were less likely to call (alarm call?) in response to predators when alone as compared to with conspecifics. I would then maybe use that tiny bit of extra space to explain further the comment below. Line 27-28 - I also had trouble following this explanation of ruling out alternative hypotheses. Are these your alternatives, or is this what you found? Maybe stating that you tested both the oddity effect and these two alternative hypotheses in one sentence earlier in the abstract would help clarify. Introduction: Line 65 - Somewhere here I think it is important to state that mixed-species groups are often signaling to each other - transmitting information about food or predators etc. This will set up the reasoning below that it isn't always good for specific (rare) individuals to call. Line 67 - might be better here to emphasize that signaling can increase predation by making individuals more conspicuous, prior to describing how a reduction in signaling can mitigate this. Line 75 - 76 - sentence here about attracting mates and deterring competitors feels out of place. somewhere here, it might be better to lean into the mixed-species group stuff and talk about how there may be benefits to signaling in flocks, but that rarity may interact with appearance /vocal distinctiveness to make it not always beneficial and thus a contributing factor to flock formation, function, and individual behavior Line 86 - mixed species should have a dash in it Line 105 - single conspecifics within heterospecific flocks? And multiple conspecifics within heterospecific flocks? Assuming yes, but this should be clear. Line 117 - 121 - describing the hypothetical probabilities here seems unnecessary. I would in stead use this space to describe your second alternative hypothesis, perhaps describing the recruitment of birds to mobbing flocks more explicitly. May also expect that birds would call to recruit in order to avoid the oddity effect. Methods: General comment - I'd recommend putting a sentence in near the front of the methods here clearly stating you conducted two experiments using two different predator stimuli. The first you mention that there were two is "Our two experiments involved..." Also would be helpful to clarify why you used these two different experiments. Is it because these two predators represent different threat levels? Line 146 - It is implied, but not clear, that you also used this same plastic screech owl that was used in the other study. Also might be good to state that in the previous work birds responded to it like a predator, as many birds get habituated to plastic stimuli. Line 152 - are you assuming all the individuals remained in the area following the placement of the stimuli? Did you account for any individual departures driven by the presence of the observer with the stimulus? Line 157 - Was the call type recorded? Also, assuming you recorded what species was producing each call. Line 184 - What do you mean by "coded"? Identified? Did you record the time to the first call as well as the number of each call type? General method question: Were each of the experiments only conducted once at each of the 36 feeder sites? Line 195 - explain how the data were non-normal Line 194 - This paragraph could use a bit more structure. For example, consider telling us how many analyses you ran to answer what questions. Even having a list of 1, 2, 3 might help. It is also not clear what was analyzed for which data set. Were they all compiled? General methods question - given that there is likely a variable number of both heterospecifics and conspecifics in each of these experimental flocks, I'd recommend using GLMs or a similar analysis that would allow you to incorporate both the number of conspecifics and heterospecifics and the potential interaction between them into your analysis. You could also include species and put all the species into the same analysis. Line 212 - The word ethically here isn't informative. Maybe instead say "Experiments were observational and did not involve the handling of any individuals. While predator stimuli can be temporarily stress-inducing, predator encounters are a normal occurrence, and thus these experiments are considered benign." Line 216 - consider rephrasing this: "In the screech owl experiment, flocks consisted of..." Can you also include the mean flock size over all for each experiment? Line 249 - you say there was no significance, but report a p value of 0. 015 for nuthatches. is this a typo? ********** what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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Thank you for your revisions. Both previous reviewers kindly agreed to read the new version, and both agree that the manuscript is substantially improved. One reviewer noted the somewhat inconsistent way in which the oddity effect hypothesis is formulated, and I agree this aspect should be addressed according to the reviewers' recommendations. Both reviewers also noted a couple of minor formal point to straighten up. I am sure these aspects will take very little time to address, and I look forward to your revised submission. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 06 2026 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file.
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There is no requirement to cite these works unless the editor has indicated otherwise. Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions??> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? -->?> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available??> The PLOS Data policy Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English??> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** Reviewer #1: This version of the manuscript is greatly improved by following reviewers' suggestions. I found only some minor issues that need to be addressed before acceptance: Line 17: “one” what? Maybe “one individual” or “one bird” or similar is better. Line 142: “Similar movements” of what/who? Please, replace with something like “Observers moved in the same way” or “We moved in the same way” to be more clear Line 362: remove the p-value from the conclusion Nice work! Reviewer #2: Thank you for addressing my previous recommendations, I think the manuscript is now much stronger and clearer. I do want to apologize for the comment that said the manuscript wasn't presented in an intelligible fashion, that was me clicking incorrectly in the dropdown menu and not realizing I had hit no when I had meant yes. I only have three minor wording suggestions that you can take or leave and one bigger comment that I strongly recomend you consider (the first comment below). Otherwise I think the manuscript is sound! Line 53—be careful about defining the oddity effect, it is typically defined by predators being attracted to odd, distinctive prey items within a group, but here you are making it sound like it is about prey behavior. While I don’t fully disagree with the definition, I think it might be better to define the oddity hypothesis in the context of the predator at the start of this paragraph then reframe how you are referring to the prey behavior throughout as a response to oddity or a reduction of risk. For instance, on line 284 you give the example from pigeon predation choice by goshawks and also call it the oddity effect, but this is a very different definition that you present at the start and is more in line with the general literature. I would recommend laying out your terms more clearly and to more appropriately reflect how this phrase is typically used, and make that change in framing throughout the manuscript. Line 43—Large here is a bit subjective, I’d recommend saying “Groups can often…” Line 68—Common might be better as “well-known” Line 257—Thank you for clarifying my confusion about your p-value in the last revision, I should have noticed the effect size. I do however think it might be important to point out that while you didn’t find a significant positive relationship, you instead found a significant negative relationship. It will help to emphasize the finding and also jog the reader to recognize what that finding means, like I needed! ********** what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Tests of the Oddity Effect Hypothesis in mixed-species parid flocks PONE-D-25-21798R2 Dear Dr. Selman, thank you for making those changes to your manuscript, which I am now pleased to recommend for publication. I will look forward to seeing your fine contribution in print in due course. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. For questions related to billing, please contact billing support . If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Valeria Mazza Academic Editor PLOS One |
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