Peer Review History
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PONE-D-25-13670Intra- and intergenerational costs of handicapping in the Saffron Finch (Sicalis flaveola), a thraupid with delayed plumage maturation.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Palmerio, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 07 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Title: Intra- and intergenerational costs of handicapping in the Saffron Finch (Sicalis flaveola), a thraupid with delayed plumage maturation. In this interesting paper, the authors performed a classical wing-clipping handicapping experiment on saffron finch parents to evaluate possible compensatory mechanisms in response to an experimental increase in parental effort by one parent. Using a well-balanced design, the authors found no behavioral responses in terms of feeding rates adjustment by the handicapped individual or its partner. However, brooding behavior differed in wing-clipped females in relation to male age. This reduction of brooding behavior could then explain the impaired thermoregulation inside the nest, and the reduced growth trajectories of the offspring. This manuscript is overall well-written. Hypothesis and predictions are easy to understand. Methodology and statical analyses are appropriate, and the discussion is overall well laid out. I have no major concern, but I have few minor revisions to propose. Specific revisions: L143: I appreciate how the authors laid out all the hypotheses 1), 2), 3) and 4) and I agree with the authors about their predictions. The prediction 3.2) is however unclear/uncertain to me. Handicapped 2Y males are expected to reduce feeding rates due to transfer of handicapping costs to partner or offspring and this prediction makes sense. But why are you in this case not predicting that females will compensate? Studies have found a wide range of responses, is there a particular reason why in your study system you are specifically predicting no response? In the prediction 4.2) I would agree with you as males typically are less responsive than females. L187: do males also brood? If not this sentence is better rewritten as : Females were considered to be brooding is they remained in the … L252: I think it would be nice to also show a figure about the reduction in brooding bouts in the female handicap group. L303: no need to refer again to tables and figures in the first paragraph of the discussion. L317: it is unclear here which findings in this study are in line with this description of male extra pair paternity. The author should clarify. L350: a reduction in weight by handicapped females despite maintaining the same feeding rate to offspring, other than inability to self-forage as the author mentioned, could be cause by inefficient and higher costs of flying performance due to handicapping. Reviewer #2: The manuscript, "Intra- and intergenerational costs of handicapping in the Saffron Finch (Sicalis flaveola), a thraupid with delayed plumage maturation," addresses an important question about life-history trade-offs and parental investment strategies in a Neotropical passerine with delayed plumage maturation. In many ways, this manuscript is interesting, and I do like the idea underlying it. The experimental approach is appropriate, the topic is timely, and the manuscript is structured and well-written overall. However, I believe that the design of the study has some conceptual mistakes that decrease the robustness of the results, and this unfortunately, prevents me from being more supportive. Several major methodological and conceptual issues substantially affect the strength and interpretation of the findings. Some concerns relate to experimental design (e.g., control group handling), some to the statistical treatment of key variables (e.g., year effects), and others to biological assumptions (e.g., age categorization). Major concerns: 1. Age categorization of ASY males. The authors pool all after-second-year (ASY) birds together, a group that likely spans individuals from 2-3 to the maximum lifespan for this species, which can reach 10-12 (in captivity). This categorization is too coarse and likely obscures important variation in reproductive strategies, as reproductive investment, body condition, and risk-taking behaviors can vary markedly with age. 2. Unmanipulated and control birds. Usually, in wing-clipping experiments, it is standard practice to handle control birds similarly to experimental birds to account for capture/handling stress, which can independently affect parental behavior. Here, control birds seem unmanipulated, raising concerns that differences attributed to handicapping might instead reflect handling effects. 3. The effect of the year in the statistical analyses. While laying dates were standardized within years, the year itself was only included as a random effect without thorough exploration. Annual variation in food availability, weather, and predation can strongly influence reproductive behaviors and nestling growth. I would include the year as a fixed factor in key analyses, test for significant year effects, or explicitly discuss that environmental variation across years could confound results. 4. The hypotheses. The predictions are laid out in a lengthy, detailed list that is difficult to follow. While specificity is good, the structure could be improved for readability. 5. Effect sizes, confidence intervals, and exact p-values are not consistently reported. Current standards favor detailed reporting to allow readers to assess the biological importance of results, even when not statistically significant. 6. The Discussion emphasizes the flexible investment hypothesis but does not adequately consider alternative explanations (e.g., constrained compensation due to energetic limits, partner unawareness of mate condition). Minor comments: - Line 21: replace "conform" by "conforms" - Line 65: find a synonym for “seminal” - Line 160: I would place the sample size for each group here. The information about the yearly sample size is missing. - L161: What is the difference between non-manipulated birds and control birds? - L204: I see a problem when authors compare experimental and control nestlings. Are the nestlings from unmanipulated and control pairs pooled together? - L238: Please specify how many nests were deserted and the groups which they belonged - Line 305: "bared" → "bore" (past tense). - Make figure legends fully self-contained (state which line represents which group). - Double-check minor inconsistencies in reference ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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