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PONE-D-25-05066Speech-in-noise discriminability after noise exposure: Insights from a gerbil model of acoustic traumaPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Klump, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 25 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Noise-induced hearing loss is thought to be the cause of speech perception difficulties, particularly in the presence of background noise. When such deficits in speech-in-noise perception are not reflected by an altered pure-tone audiometry, the condition is referred to as a hidden hearing loss. As animal models offer the possibility of a precise experimental approach with well-defined settings, this study investigates speech-in-noise discrimination in gerbils and how the discriminability of different types of vowels and consonants changes from before to after noise overexposure. Nine gerbils were trained to discriminate a deviant consonant-vowel-consonant (CVC) or vowel-consonant-vowel (VCV) combination in a sequence of CVC or VCV standards, respectively. The gerbils were better at discriminating vowels than consonants. While the ability to discriminate vowels was improved after noise exposure, along with a reduction in reaction time, the ability to discriminate consonants was rather poor before and after noise exposure. This is in contrast to the commonly suggested link between noise exposure and speech-in-noise perception difficulties in humans. Nevertheless, there is no real conclusion in the abstract. For someone outside the field, this work is very specific and the amount of work may be better appreciated in a more specialised journal. However, as the topic is of great importance to the healthcare system, it might still fit well in a journal such as Plos one. Here are some major concerns that need to be addressed: - Although the authors aimed to investigate the commonly suggested link between noise overexposure and speech-in-noise perception difficulties, they used only one background noise, i.e., the masking sound “steady-state speech shaped noise”. - Please superimpose the individual data points for each animal on the box plots. - The authors praise the use of animals as a precise experimental approach with well-defined noise exposure to investigate the relationship between noise exposure and synaptopathology, but they do not verify synaptopathology by immunohistological staining. - What was the time interval given to the gerbils for a correct response? Could it be that the response time for the VCV reflects the average of random poking (together with a rather poor D-prim of 1), whereas the shorter latencies reflect the precise response to the signal (together with a D-prim of 1.6)? - Gerbils were exposed to a CVC in a sequence of VCV. What was the ratio (e.g. 20% CVC and 80% VCV)? - It is very unsatisfactory to refer to another manuscript for the methods. I would appreciate a representative example of CVC in VCV or VCV in CVC. How long were the gerbils trained and to what level of performance, e.g. correctly answering the CVC while rejecting the VCV by 70%, which would result in a D-prime of about 1? Were the gerbils trained for a specific criterion or for a specific time? How long were the gerbils trained per day? What was the "inter-vowel interval"? - 14 gerbils were exposed to noise trauma, but only 9 were reported for behavioural outcomes. What happened to the 5 excess gerbils? - No 'naive' control or sham-exposed group was used. Since all the gerbils were exposed to noise-induced hearing loss and the ABR showed only a transient elevated threshold, could it be that the behaviour of the gerbils in terms of CVC simply improved over time, while the VCV remained just above chance level before and after noise exposure? - Please also show some kind of raw data, but not just the D prime. In addition, catch trials in which the target logatome was the same as the reference logatome were used as a measure of spontaneous responding. Did the authors report these sequences? Was this parameter included anywhere in the calculation? - I just don't understand the "perception maps", which may - at least in part - be related to the poor quality/resolution of the images. I find the confusion matrices very confusing! Why is 93% of the explained variance in the MDS a "goodness of fit"? - I do not understand why four CVC conditions were used to test the discriminability of vowels, whereas three VCV conditions were used to test the discriminability of consonants. Also, two-dimensional perceptual maps were used for the vowels, but three-dimensional perceptual maps were used for the consonants. Why? - What was the cage size? What were the reward pellets made of? How much regular food were the gerbils given per day? Was it possible to feed them in a group? Reviewer #2: The study by Jüchter et al. compares behavioral speech (vowel and consonant) discrimination data from Mongolian gerbils with and without noise overexposure. The noise exposure is presumed to cause synaptopathy of spiral ganglion neurons based on electrophysiology (ABR). Following exposure, behavioral performance (discriminability and response latency) was not reduced; rather, it improved for vowel stimuli. While the behavioral data are impressive, I have several major concerns about the paradigm and interpretation, as detailed below. Major Concerns: > Extreme Noise Exposure: The noise exposure is quite extreme (115 dB SPL). Generally, this level of overexposure causes moderate hearing loss in several species, including gerbils. The authors discuss this, but not in a satisfactory way. What was the weighting of the sound level (A, B, or C-weighted)? Was the sound level measured at the speaker, and could it have dropped near the ear? > Limited Hearing Loss in Relevant Frequency Range: There is little hearing loss (including temporary threshold shift) below 4 kHz, a region largely sufficient for robust vowel and consonant perception. For example, the first two formants (generally < 2 kHz) convey substantial information about vowels. While the authors appropriately discuss a number of mechanisms, in my view, these data seem to be largely consistent with gerbils getting overtrained without any hearing loss in the frequency range of interest. In any case, the fact that the temporary threshold shift was only limited above 4 kHz and not at lower frequencies should be mentioned in the abstract. > Response Latency vs. d-prime/Percent Correct: The study, consistent with previous work by the authors, uses response latency as a key metric. However, some details/rationale are missing. How was the response latency calculated? For example, for /CVC/, was it measured from /C/ onset or /V/ onset? If from the onset of the whole logatome, it would make sense that /VCV/ response latency is longer than /CVC/ because vowels are longer than consonants. For MDS, was the latency limited only to correct trials? Additionally, to my knowledge, response latency tracks task difficulty and is influenced by cognitive effort (which is interesting). However, a more direct metric would be to use the confusion matrix (percent correct or d-prime) for each pair. > Sound Level of Logatomes: Consonants like fricatives are up to 40 dB softer than vowels (Stevens 2000). What do 60 dB for speech-shaped noise and 65 dB SPL for logatomes mean? Is it RMS-normalized for the whole segment? What about for /VCV/? Assuming the whole token is at 65 dB SPL, which is presumably dominated by the vowel, fricatives could be 35-45 dB SPL (which means -25 to -15 dB SNR). This task would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Additional Concerns: The overall structure of the manuscript is good, but the writing is vague/missing details at several places. For example: > Abstract: "However, the connection between noise overexposure and deteriorated speech-in-noise perception is not clear yet." We know various forms of SNHL cause speech-in-noise perception (e.g., Festen and Plomp 1990). The statement should be made specific to hidden hearing loss. > Figure 6: What is each dot? Assuming each vowel/consonant pair (pooled across all animals), but it would be good to spell this out. In general, figure captions would benefit from more description about what is plotted and what the error bars represent. > First Paragraph of Conclusion (L602-610): Quite redundant as presented; generally, this section should be a summary of key findings. > L827-835: A significant portion of the conclusion is about alternatives not related to the present study. > Use of "Hearing Loss": Several places in the manuscript mention there was noise-induced hearing loss. Hearing loss generally refers to shifts in the audiogram. Here, ABR thresholds (proxies for audiograms) are not different following noise exposure. ********** 6. 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