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| Original SubmissionJanuary 9, 2025 |
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(https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/data-availability#loc-acceptable-data-access-restrictions) For any third-party data that the authors cannot legally distribute, they should include the following information in their Data Availability Statement upon submission: 1) A description of the data set and the third-party source 2) If applicable, verification of permission to use the data set 3) Confirmation of whether the authors received any special privileges in accessing the data that other researchers would not have 4) All necessary contact information others would need to apply to gain access to the data. Additional Editor Comments: The stated goal of the project – to compare methylation calling between traditional WGBS and PacBio HiFi sequencing – is certainly valuable. The authors assert that comparing methylation calling between WGBS and PacBio HiFi sequencing is particularly pertinent for complex conditions like Down syndrome. The authors acknowledge that their experiments were not designed for direct comparison across factors such as read depths, sample sizes, or conditions. While they emphasize that the ‘available data’ presented a unique opportunity to assess cross-platform consistency, this approach raises important concerns. To strengthen the reliability of their conclusions, it is essential that the authors address the analytical and methodological concerns raised by the reviewers. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? -->?> Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: N/A ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available??> The PLOS Data policy Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English??> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** Reviewer #1: In this manuscript, the authors assessed CpG methylation concordance between WGBS and HiFi sequencing using monozygotic twins. They found high correlation in CpG methylation results from the two technologies, while also some differences. While the results are interesting, some additional analysis will be beneficial to reveal more results to the readers. Major points: 1. More QC metrics for either data types, e.g. # of CpGs with different coverage cutoff, % of methylated Cs under CpG, CHH, CHG context, QC for bisulfite conversion efficiency estimated by mC outside of CpG context, etc. 2. Different depth might bias the results. It will be ideal if the author can down-sample the HiFi data to match the WGBS depth; 3. To reveal how depth cutoff affects the correlation, scatter plot between the two technologies colored by coverage in WGBS should be generated. Minor points: 4. To avoid any bias in results of WGBS, another tool such as Bismark should be used to process the data and show no substantial difference from current method. 5. Annotations with enhancers or open chromatin regions will be helpful. 6. Average signal plot around gene body + promoter will be helpful. 7. How about CHH and CHG context? Can authors also report those regions? 8. It will be interesting to perform comparison between the twins to identify differential mCpGs and compare the findings from either technologies to see if any bias present. Reviewer #2: I enjoyed reading this manuscript that aims at contracting the methylation landscape between HiFi and WGBS in Down Syndrome patients. While the manuscript was a nice read it needs some additional work to become ready for publication. Line 45: “pivotal epigenetic genome modification”, remove the word “genome” and let the sentence be “pivotal epigenetic modification”. Materials and Methods: Provide information about the twins, are they male/female, age at recruitment, body composition (height and weight). It can be concluded from your results that they are males because of Y chromosome data, but you still need to say in the method section that they are males. Line 115: “the recruitment period spanning from July 18, 2019, to July 17, 2025.” The date is incorrect. We are not in July 2025 yet. Also, if you recruited only a single pair of twins why was it done over a long period? Line 246 – 248: you say that CpG islands show “demonstrated limited methylated CpG sites”. Is this something commonly reported in Down syndrome cases where CpG islands are not densely methylated? If yes, say something about that and provide a reference. In healthy people it is typical to see unmethylated islands, would that be the case in DS? Also we don’t know the age of the twins, if they are young, then the lack of methylation could be to age and not any other reason. Line 269: “there were a depth of coverage less than” change it so it says: there was a depth of coverage less than”. Result section: For all correlation combinations, you need to provide scatter plots to show correlation. In those plots, you need to show r value and line of best fit. In supp fig 3 and 4, the axes should be labeled. Indicate what the x axis is and what the y axis is. Line 419: This is the first time entropy is mentioned in the manuscript. How was entropy measured? There is no mention of this in the method section. Discussion It is not clear what role DS plays in this research. Was it expected that DS would be a major disruptor of methylome? The main purpose of the study is to highlight the differences between HiFi and WGBS. This being done in DS cases is not clear. Was there a reason to think that DS would lead to different methylation readings? Based on the results, the differences between the two methods is based on technology and methodology, and DS plays no role in this difference. The authors did not show any concern with the sample size. You only have one pair of DS twins. You need to list that as a limitation. Reviewer #3: The stated goal of this project - to compare methylation calling via traditional WGBS with PacBio HiFi sequencing - is a worthwhile undertaking. However, I’m not sure the paper in its current form accomplishes that goal. The authors argue that a comparison of methylation calling from WGBS and PacBio HiFi sequencing is especially relevant in “complex conditions like Down syndrome”. They state in the Introduction that there “... are still limited studies on the concordance of 5-mC detection across various genomic regions, especially in the context of genetic conditions like Down syndrome.” From these statements, it seems there are three distinct goals: (1) to compare the two platforms in terms of calling DNA methylation, (2) to compare reproducibility of methylation calls in different genomic contexts, and (3) to study DNA methylation in Down syndrome. To accomplish any of these individual goals would likely require a unique study design. By trying to do many things at once, the current manuscript sacrifices the ability to do any one task sufficiently. If the goal is to study the role of DNA methylation in down syndrome, the choice of whole blood samples is not well motivated. DNA methylation patterns are cell type specific. It’s not clear how blood cell phenotypes are related to Down syndrome. If the goal is to compare reproducibility of methylation calls in different genomic contexts, there needs to be a more careful stratification of the genome. We expect that DNA methylation will mark most CpGs in the genome, with the exception being CpG islands, which mark the promoters of most human genes (see e.g. DOI 10.1186/s13072-017-0130-8 10.1038/s41580-019-0159-6). Where the differences in HiFi PacBio sequencing vs WGBS may be most apparent is in highly repetitive regions, such as transposons or pericentromeric regions. A more thorough analysis of this would potentially be informative. If the goal is to study reproducibility of methylation calls, it is important to control for coverage across the genome. The different coverages for WGBS and HiFi in Table 1 will necessarily lead to differences in methylation calls. The dramatically different read lengths will also introduce bias in methylation interrogation. If the authors want to compare WGBS and HiFi in an unbiased manner, they could sample from the HiFi library to achieve coverage and read lengths analogous to the WGBS libraries and repeat their analysis. In the first paragraph of the results section the authors add that the sequencing depth is not controlled because of “reliance on existing data”. Are these datasets all published? In addition to these conceptual concerns, I have technical concerns as well: The wg-blimp analysis pipeline used for the WGBS analysis is not well defended. Utilizing a more standard approach (e.g. Methpipe?) would be more appropriate. One puzzling aspect of the wg-blimp pipeline is the prioritization of quality control _after_ mapping and de-duplication. There are several seemingly arbitrary thresholds introduced in the manuscript. For example, regarding CpGs as methylated with methylation level is >= 50 with coverage >= 4 is not justified. Generally DNA methylation profiles follow a bimodal distribution with the largest mode corresponding to CpGs being methylated and another mode corresponding to unmethylated. Do the methylation values for HiFi and WGBS here follow that pattern? That could be used to set thresholds. ********** what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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