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If consent was waived for your study, please include this information in your statement as well. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? -->?> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available??> The PLOS Data policy Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English??> Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** Reviewer #1: The authors tried to answer an important question of quantifying low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) using the calculation method, especially for the decision points. The manuscript is well written. However, they should address the following queries. 1. It is a record-based study; thus, using beta quantification for LDL-C estimation is implausible. However, a homogenous method (Sekisui Medical) was employed. In a previous study (10.1373/clinchem.2009.142810), this method failed to achieve the total allowable error (TAE) as per the NCEP guidelines in LDL-C quantification among diseased subjects, though it worked well in normal people. Based on this fact, kindly answer the following points: A) How do you justify this method in the absence of the gold standard, as your data must have included diseased subjects? B) Kindly mention the total error with imprecision and bias, separately related to your data. 2. Include Bland-Altman plots for the concordance study. Reviewer #2: The authors compare two methods of calculating low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C), which is a key risk factor for cardiovascular disease, bringing into question recent findings that the Martin-Hopkins method is superior to the Friedewald method. The manuscript is well written, clear, and assertive, and the authors clearly state the sources of their data as well as their methods of analysis. Some specific points: -In the abstract, it is unclear what the connection is between the two methods and whether they are both for low TG levels. I recommend parsing that out more explicitly, as well as the strengths of the Martin-Hopkins method. For exampe, when it is stated that the method is successful in estimating very low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, it is unclear what that is compared to 400 mg/dL. Later in the manuscript, it seems that very low-density lipoprotein cholesterol is referring to lower levels, less than 70-79 mg/dL. I think it would be helpful to delineate that distinction more clearly early on. -When showing the formulas for Friedewald and Martin-Hopkins, it is states "where, AF_N is an adustable factor...", remove the comma, so it is "where AF_N is an adustable factor." -In the results, it is states "Table 1 summarized" - perhaps it should be "Table 1 summarizes"? Keeping it consistent that the analyses performed are described in the past, but the tables are currently showing results. Reviewer #3: Summary: This study evaluates the Martin-Hopkins method for estimating LDL-C in a Korean population and shows that tailoring TG/VLDL-C ratios to the local population improves accuracy over both the traditional Friedewald formula and published median-based methods. The greatest benefit is seen in individuals with high triglycerides and low LDL-C levels. The study also finds that excessive stratification offers limited gains and may reduce generalizability. Major Comments: - Can the authors discuss the applicability of the findings for global population 9since this only use korean population)? - Can the authors add a discussion section on how the improved concordance would affect patient classification or treatment decisions—e.g., how many patients would move across clinical thresholds? - While tailoring TG/VLDL-C ratios to specific populations improves estimation accuracy, how feasible is it to implement this approach in clinical practice? Could the authors discuss practical implementation strategies—such as whether hospitals and laboratories can use population-specific median tables or if periodic recalibration would be necessary to maintain accuracy across different settings? Minor: - Some parts of the text repeat the same points in different sections—for example, the limitations of the Friedewald formula in people with high triglycerides come up multiple times. It would help to streamline the writing by removing repetition and combining related results into a single summary table or figure for better clarity. Reviewer #4: Summary The Martin-Hopkins equation for LDL estimation has been shown to be more effective at calculating LDL compared to the Friedwald equation, which has been the standard of care. The MH equation uses a median TG/VLDL-C ratio in different strata of TG and Non HDL Cholesterol. The authors propose two changes to the MH equation, learning strata-specific median TG/VLDL-C ratios in a specific cohort of patients in Korea, and also optimizing this value for maximum concordance within stratas. Major Comments Methods - Rather than optimizing for concordance within each stratum, why not directly fit the linear equation to predict LDL-C? Is it due to a lack of sample size? Mentioning why or why not that is possible would be beneficial. Results - There should be error bars, confidence intervals, p-values, or some measure of statistical significance when comparing concordance - It may be informative to see evaluation done for more than just concordance. The review by Samuel et al (2023) of 23 equations for LDL-C that showed the MH equation to be the best had a 3-stage testing scheme that included concordance, MAE, stratification across demographic groups, and, lastly, clinical classification Ref: Samuel C, Park J, Sajja A, Michos ED, Blumenthal RS, Jones SR, Martin SS. Accuracy of 23 Equations for Estimating LDL Cholesterol in a Clinical Laboratory Database of 5,051,467 Patients. Glob Heart. 2023 Jun 19;18(1):36. doi: 10.5334/gh.1214. PMID: 37361322; PMCID: PMC10289049 Discussion - One aspect to highlight may be the difference in sample size for the training of the MH equation and the specific equation in the Korean sample. If you can outperform the MH-equation with a smaller subset of training data, there is potential for even better prediction with a larger sample size to train on. Specifically, when talking about using the optimal TG/VLDL-C ratio rather than median, this coul be considered a different formula completely, rather than just refitting the MH Equation within your own sample Minor Comments ‘this improvement can achieve without increasing the number of strata,’ in the conclusion has a typo, should be ‘this improvement can be achieved without increasing the number of strata,’ A key on what the colors mean in figure 2 would be helpful ********** what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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<p>Refining the Martin-Hopkins method for estimating low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels: Median versus optimal TG/VLDL-C ratio PONE-D-24-57824R1 Dear Dr. Jongseok Lee, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Misbahuddin Rafeeq Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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