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Original SubmissionMay 6, 2024
Decision Letter - Xiaohui Zhang, Editor

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Reviewer #1: Partly

Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: No

Reviewer #2: N/A

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Reviewer #1: No

Reviewer #2: No

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Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: This paper introduces a model fusion strategy to enhance brain tissue segmentation performance using U-Nets. The proposed technique is straightforward to implement and showed improved performance compared to standalone U-Nets. The paper is written in an easy-to-understand manner. Here are some comments for consideration:

Major comments:

• It seems that all the results from each segmentation model were generated through one trial. To improve the validity of the observations, please train the models multiple times and report the overall segmentation results (e.g., mean and standard deviation of evaluation metrics).

• In the Discussion section, you mention “the cumulative effect on performance may not be significant.” Please include the segmentation results of the fusion of U-Net and UNet3++ to substantiate this claim.

• It is suggested that the authors can provide theoretical explanations for the performance differences among the three U-Nets used in the study based on their architectural differences. This can offer valuable insights to readers regarding the preferable U-Net architecture for the brain tissue segmentation task.

• The computational cost of different segmentation strategies should be discussed in the Discussion section.

Minor comments:

• In the Materials and Methods -- Training section, please use the full name of “BCELoss” (Binary Cross Entropy loss).

• In the Materials and Methods – U-Net series for BTS section, please avoid using “left branch” and “right branch” to describe the encoder and decoder of U-Nets. Such ambiguous descriptions can be misleading.

• In the descriptions of Table 5-7, please specify the results are from the COCO cat segmentation task.

• In Figure 1 caption “the over-segmented results by some brain tissue segmentation algorithms”: please specify the names of the brain tissue segmentation algorithms used.

Reviewer #2: This work describes a fusion framework that combines the prediction of multiple UNet models to improve the overall classification accuracy of the model. The following minor comments and questions should be addressed before the paper is ready for publication:

1. This work uses simple intersection as the fusion operation, while more complex, nonlinear forms of fusion exist, such as an element-wise multiplication (of the latent space, not the final prediction). See https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cma.2023.116277 and https://doi.org/10.1007/s10915-022-01881-0 for examples. The authors should discuss whether those nonlinear forms of data fusion have a potential use in the current case.

2. For classification models, logits are typically generated and then passed through a final activation layer to generate the binary classification output. In this case, the authors chose to perform fusion on the activated output, what about the possibility of performing fusion on the logits, then apply a single activation to the fused logits? The authors can maybe discuss a bit along this line.

3. It seems like the authors manually varied some hyper-parameters of the UNet models to investigate their effectiveness. automatic hyperparameter optimization models have been widely explored and applied, such as https://doi.org/10.1002/widm.1484, https://doi.org/10.1007/s00707-023-03691-3. Relevant works should be discussed in the literature review.

4. The authors mentioned "However, having more fusion strategies means training more models, which might not offer significant benefits compared to training a single, more complex model.". This is an interesting point that was not supported by data in the current manuscript. The authors should list the number of trainable parameters and training times for each model used in this work, and compared the fusion results (both in terms of training time and accuracy) with a single UNet model with comparable number of trainable parameters (as the two fused models combined).

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Revision 1

November 27th, 2024

Dr. Xiaohui Zhang

Academic Editor

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Dear Dr. Zhang,

We are grateful for the opportunity to revise our manuscript entitled "Refining CT Image Analysis: Exploring Adaptive Fusion in U-Nets for Enhanced Brain Tissue Segmentation" (PONE-D-24-17378). We appreciate the insightful comments and suggestions provided by you and the reviewers. We have addressed each point raised and made the necessary revisions to improve our manuscript. Besides, we also claim that ‘The funders provided financial support for the Article Processing Charge (APC) but had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript’. Below, we provide a detailed response to the editor's and reviewers' comments. Please also noted that in the revised article, we have highlighted the changes made in response to the reviewer’s comments in green, while minor revisions from the previous version of the article are highlighted in yellow.

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Response: The codes can be found in https://github.com/limrs2011/PLOSone2024/

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Response: The discrepancies in the grant information have been resolved. The correct grant numbers are now provided consistently in the ‘Funding Information’ section.

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Response: We have included the statement “The funders provided financial support for the Article Processing Charge (APC) but had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.” in the cover letter and manuscript.

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Response: Funding-related text has been removed from the Acknowledgments section and included in the ‘Funding Information’ section.

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Response: Thank you for your comments. We would like to address the data sharing restrictions for our study as follows:

a) There are ethical restrictions on sharing a de-identified data set because we cannot ensure that publicly shared brain CT images will not be reconstructed into three-dimensional images, potentially revealing identifiable facial features of the patients and thus posing a privacy risk. Due to these concerns, we did not include data sharing in our initial IRB application. As a result, the current data are not suitable for public sharing. These restrictions have been imposed by our Institutional Review Board (IRB) to protect patient confidentiality and privacy.

b) As the data contain sensitive information and there are ethical restrictions in place, we are unable to upload the anonymized data set to a public repository.

We hope this explanation clarifies the restrictions. If there are any further questions or if you require additional information, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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Response: The ethics statement has been moved to the Methods section and removed from any other sections.

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Response: Thank you for your comments regarding the figures in our submission. We would like to clarify the sources of the figures mentioned and ensure compliance with the CC BY 4.0 license:

Figures 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6: These figures are brain CT images obtained from our own hospital. These images are original and not subject to third-party copyright restrictions. Therefore, we confirm that these images can be published under the CC BY 4.0 license without needing additional permissions. The figure captions will include the following text: "© 2024 [Taichung Veterans General Hospital]. Published under the Creative Commons Attribution License (CC BY 4.0)."

Figures 8 and 9: These figures were obtained from a publicly available dataset [27] with license CC BY-SA 4.0. The figure captions will include the text: "Reprinted from [27] under CC BY-SA 4.0 license." We hope this clarifies the situation. Please let us know if you require any further information or have any additional instructions for us.

Reviewer #1:

1. Train Models Multiple Times:

Comment: "It seems that all the results from each segmentation model were generated through one trial. To improve the validity of the observations, please train the models multiple times and report the overall segmentation results (e.g., mean and standard deviation of evaluation metrics)."

Response: Thank you for the suggestions. To further enhance the validity of our observations and prevent data overfitting, we have included an additional public dataset with a larger number of patients in the revised manuscript. We also conducted 5-fold cross-validation experiments to verify our previous results obtained from the private dataset. The mean and standard deviation of the evaluation metrics are presented in Table 2. Additionally, the previous Tables 1 and 2 in the earlier version have been combined into a new Table 1 to simplify the presentation of results.

2. Include Segmentation Results of U-Net and UNet3++ Fusion:

Comment: "In the Discussion section, you mention 'the cumulative effect on performance may not be significant.' Please include the segmentation results of the fusion of U-Net and UNet3++ to substantiate this claim."

Response: We apologize for the confusion caused by the sentence. Although we have shown that appropriate fusion of the results of two model could enhance the segmentation performance, we cannot pursue the best result by unlimited fusion. The ‘cumulative effect’ here means fusing the results from more than two models. That is why in Table 4 the IoU of ‘fusion all’ is not as high as fusion of UNet2+ and UNet3+. The descriptions for clarification have been added in L399~L407.

Since the design of Table 4 is to set UNet2+ as the fusion base, we did not include the fusion result of U-Net and UNet3+, otherwise it literally becomes the result of ‘fusion all’. In the following table we followed the reviewer’s suggestion and used ISLES2018 as the dataset to show the results of single models and all combinations of fusion. From the last three rows we can see that all fusions bring slightly better segmentation than the single models in this dataset, but we do not guarantee the trend remains forever. Different segmentation models, different datasets, or different segmentation tasks (other than BTS) may produce different results. Validation of this will take much longer time and computation resource. We can only humbly share our findings on limited models and datasets in the current manuscript.

Model Prediction

IoU HD

U-Net 0.956±0.004 0.608±0.143

UNet2+ 0.955±0.002 0.717±0.251

UNet3+ 0.957±0.005 0.491±0.100

UNet & UNet2+ 0.9593 0.400

UNet & UNet3+ 0.9602 0.381

UNet2+ & UNet3+ 0.9587 0.346

3. Theoretical Explanations for Performance Differences:

Comment: "It is suggested that the authors can provide theoretical explanations for the performance differences among the three U-Nets used in the study based on their architectural differences. This can offer valuable insights to readers regarding the preferable U-Net architecture for the brain tissue segmentation task."

Response: Thank reviewer for the suggestions. In addition to the original description of U-Net series networks in section 2.3, we have added more description in L386~L391,

4. Discuss Computational Cost:

Comment: "The computational cost of different segmentation strategies should be discussed in the Discussion section."

Response: Thank reviewer for the suggestions. We have added description to address the computation cost issue in L399~L407.

Minor Comments:

5. Full Name of BCELoss:

Comment: "In the Materials and Methods -- Training section, please use the full name of ‘BCELoss’ (Binary Cross Entropy loss)."

Response: The full name “Binary Cross Entropy loss” is now used in the Training section.(L168)

6. Avoid Ambiguous Descriptions:

Comment: "In the Materials and Methods – U-Net series for BTS section, please avoid using ‘left branch’ and ‘right branch’ to describe the encoder and decoder of U-Nets. Such ambiguous descriptions can be misleading."

Response: Descriptions such as “left branch” and “right branch” have been removed to avoid ambiguity.(L137&L140)

7. Specify Results from COCO Cat Segmentation Task:

Comment: "In the descriptions of Table 5-7, please specify the results are from the COCO cat segmentation task."

Response: The descriptions of Tables 5-7 now specify that the results are from the COCO cat segmentation task.

8. Specify Brain Tissue Segmentation Algorithms:

Comment: "In Figure 1 caption ‘the over-segmented results by some brain tissue segmentation algorithms’: please specify the names of the brain tissue segmentation algorithms used."

Response: The names of the brain tissue segmentation algorithms used are specified in on Figure 1 (c) and (f).

Reviewer #2:

1. Discuss Nonlinear Forms of Data Fusion:

Comment: "This work uses simple intersection as the fusion operation, while more complex, nonlinear forms of fusion exist, such as an element-wise multiplication (of the latent space, not the final prediction). See https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cma.2023.116277 and https://doi.org/10.1007/s10915-022-01881-0 for examples. The authors should discuss whether those nonlinear forms of data fusion have a potential use in the current case."

Response: Thank you for your comment. A discussion on potential uses of nonlinear forms of data fusion, such as element-wise multiplication, has been included. We have also referenced the suggested works to support this discussion.

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Decision Letter - Xiaohui Zhang, Editor

Refining CT image analysis: Exploring adaptive fusion in U-Nets for enhanced brain tissue segmentation

PONE-D-24-17378R1

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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed

Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed

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Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: No

Reviewer #2: Yes

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5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English??>

Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: The authors have addressed all the previous comments. I do not have additional comments. The manuscript is ready for the next stage.

Reviewer #2: The authors have sufficiently addressed the reviewer comments, and the manuscript can be considered for publication.

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