Peer Review History
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PONE-D-24-24814Differential Impact of Biomechanical Constraints on Control Signal Dimensionality for Gravity Support Versus PropulsionPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gritsenko, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please, revise the manuscript to address all questions raised by the reviewers regarding data analysis, statistics, and justifications of the conclusions. I recommend to follow reviewer's recommendations. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 18 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In this paper authors explore the effect of biomechanical constraints on the dimensionality of control space. They showed that the muscle torques that support the limb against gravity are produced by more consistent combinations of muscle co-contraction than those that produce propulsion. It is not clear to me why authors did PCA analysis of combined from different motor tasks data. If it were one motor task, it would show that CNS reduces control space to control this particular motor task. But what is possibly could be controlled for all different types of motions combined? Each motor task should be controlled differently. I would recommend to re-do analysis for each motor task separately. The authors wrote that there were 15 repetitions of each movement but in matrix A there is one EMG per motion. I suggest that analysis was done for each repetition separately, but it was not mentioned in the paper. The left part of Figure 1 is not necessary. Instead, it would be better to show locations of targets for different conditions, at least for one side. Figure 2 has angles and angular velocities plotted on one panel. I would recommend using left/right different vertical axis as well using degrees instead of radians for angles. pp.55-56 Authors wrote: “target was placed at a location that positioned the shoulder at 0 angle of all degrees of freedom and elbow at 90 degrees” For some angles ‘0’ could be set in different positions. Was wrist pronated or supinated? Was wrist also parallel to the floor? pp.82-85 Authors wrote: “Joint angles representing 5 DOFs of the arm were derived using linear algebra, namely shoulder flexion-extension, shoulder abduction-adduction, shoulder internal-external rotation, elbow flexion-extension, forearm pronation-supination, and wrist flexion-extension” Are there 5 or 6 DOFs? shoulder flexion-extension(1), shoulder abduction-adduction(2), shoulder internal-external rotation(3), elbow flexion-extension(4), forearm pronation-supination(5), and wrist flexion-extension(6) Reviewer #2: Korol et al. examined muscle activity patterns during reaching movements in different directions and postures, performed by healthy individuals. They tested the relationship between muscle torques and muscle activity profiles, and the influence of biomechanical constraints on the dimensionality of control space. Using principal component analysis, they evaluated the contribution of individual muscles to joint torques. This work is an extension of a previous paper, the main novelty is that both dominant and non-dominant arm movements were included. They conclude that muscle torques supporting the limb against gravity are produced by more consistent combinations of muscle co-contraction than those producing propulsion. There are several issues in the manuscript that need clarification. I list them in the following. Major: 1. The paper is quite difficult to follow. This is mainly due to the writing style, use of many abbreviations, and sometimes confusing terminology (e.g. movement direction vs conditions of medial and lateral movements). 2. EMG and torque was normalized to movement duration, yet movement durations were not reported. Heterogeneity in movement duration and speed of movement could significantly impact results. 3. What is the rationale for including multiple repetitions and movement directions for each muscle in the matrix for the PCA? Is the assumption that center-out and return movements are driven by the same temporal synergies? 4. It is not clear why correlations of the scores of the first PCA component between muscles can be used as a proxy of co-activation or reciprocity. Other components likely contribute to the EMG and absolute values of the scores likely matter, i.e. two muscles with only positive scores can exhibit a negative correlation but that wouldn’t mean that they are reciprocally activated. Why not simply calculate cross correlation of EMG directly? 5. It is not clear if statistics were applied correctly. E.g. an RM-ANOVA has been applied to compare the coefficient of variation between conditions. It has not been stated if and how model assumptions were tested. It is very likely that the normality of residuals has been violated given the nature of the outcome variable. Furthermore, post-hoc tests were performed when the fixed effect was not significant. The presentation and description of the statistics is also lacking. It is at times not clear what model was calculated and test statistics should be reported. 6. Equally, it is not clear if assumptions of the PCA were confirmed. E.g., are mean and covariance matrix sufficient to describe the distribution, are the intrinsic dimensions orthogonal, linearity of the low-dimensional manifold. Also, is normalization to the maximal EMG adequate? Would subtracting the mean followed by division by the standard deviation lead to different results? Peaks or baseline activity could skew the results. 7. Furthermore, it is intuitively not clear to me how temporal synergies with both positive and negative components and positive and negative scores could represent a neural signal driving multiple motor pools. How would the changes in signs be implemented on a circuit level? Wouldn’t constraining scores to be non-negative result in synergies that are easier to interpret on a circuit level? Minor: 1. Abstract: “Results generalize …” not clear that this refers to the previous work. 2. Line 62-65: There is quite some disagreement on whether PCA is adequate to identify synergies of EMG during locomotion. And this isn’t the topic of the paper anyways. I’d remove this statement. 3. Lines 116-117: “We applied PCA with the assumption of invariant activation profiles to obtain temporal synergies” This needs more explanation. 4. Lines 185-186: Calculation of active torques should be explained in this paper. 5. LLat, RLat, etc. have not been defined. 6. Lines 200-201: Rationale for filter settings is missing. (no low pass for the raw EMG, why 10 Hz for rectified). 7. Line 244: not clear what hypothesis the authors refer to. 8. Lines 300-301: We found that intra- and inter-subject variability of EMG profiles were very low” Average standard deviation of 12% of maximal EMG does not seem that low. Also not clear if this is intra or inter subject variability. 9. Lines 350-354: Fixed effect of sex was not reported; interaction effect neither. And for some reason comparison between sexes was reported as a post-hoc test with a p value of 0.06 and discussed as not significant. 10. Lines 362-364: This conclusion is out of place and would need further elaboration. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy . Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-24-24814R1Control Signal Dimensionality Depends on Limb DynamicsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gritsenko, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please, consider the additional analysis suggested by the reviewer 1. It will probably produce close results which could be presented in the article or in the author response. Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 14 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: A very serious issue in the methods and results of the PCA analysis remains. I agree that “The idea of the modality of control signal has been discussed in the seminal works of Bizzi, Kalaska, Geogopoulus, Kawato, Wolpert, Shadmehr, Ting, and Gribble to name a few. These and other authors have developed influential theories of internal models, which accurately capture the sensorimotor transformations that occur in the CNS with the substantial predictive power of neural signals”. Let me clarify my concern. CNS controls one movement at time, hence suggested modules also control one movement at a time. I also support the idea that common modules may be used to control the different movements. But this happens at different times. The authors can use PCA for particular movement to extract modules for this one movement, but if authors want to extract common modules involved in controlling different movements authors need to create matrixes Anxm by combining their each movement data sets into a matrix with number of muscles (12) as one dimension and larger time dimension (time(100) x number of movements (28) )(i.e., time dimension of the set up matrix is X28 larger, while first dimension is X28 smaller) and then using PCA to find common modules. Surfacing the assumptions is another concern. The assumption is that there are the same two primary principal components of PCA analysis of separate movement directions for both EMG and torques. Authors didn’t show any evidence that this assumption is correct. And even if it is correct this is not the correct way to find common modules, as I mentioned above. The correct estimation of a common modules is crucial for the results and interpretation and needs to be presented. Reviewer #2: The authors addressed all my comments and those of the other reviewer adequately. I don't have any additional comments. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy . 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