Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionOctober 23, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-40619Benchmarking Differential Abundance Tests for 16S Microbiome Sequencing Data Using Simulated Data Based on Experimental TemplatesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Kohnert, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 17 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the protocol technically sound and planned in a manner that will lead to a meaningful outcome and allow testing the stated hypotheses? The manuscript should describe the methods in sufficient detail to prevent undisclosed flexibility in the experimental procedure or analysis pipeline, including sufficient outcome-neutral conditions (e.g. necessary controls, absence of floor or ceiling effects) to test the proposed hypotheses and a statistical power analysis where applicable. As there may be aspects of the methodology and analysis which can only be refined once the work is undertaken, authors should outline potential assumptions and explicitly describe what aspects of the proposed analyses, if any, are exploratory. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Is the methodology feasible and described in sufficient detail to allow the work to be replicable? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors described where all data underlying the findings will be made available when the study is complete? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception, at the time of publication. The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above and, if applicable, provide comments about issues authors must address before this protocol can be accepted for publication. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about research or publication ethics. You may also provide optional suggestions and comments to authors that they might find helpful in planning their study. Reviewer #1: The author proposes a study to benchmark various differential abundance (DA) analysis methods for microbiome data. It has two parts : (1) simulation framework by incorporating a known truth into the synthetic dataset, (2) report the accuracy of various DA methods to recover the ground truth, assess the performance of DA methods and contributors with varying data characteristics like sparsity, effect size, sample size. 1. What is the rationale for simulating data using these two methods metaSPARsim and sparseDOSSA compared to other frameworks available like MIDASim, DM. It would be great if you could more about this methods in the paper. 2. Author plans to test the Aim 1 hypothesis by using the synthetic data with known ground truth. I am interested to know if it is possible to add in few confounders, no effect cases or known negative cases as well to evaluate FDR of these methods. 3. If the above is not feasible, please comment on how you plan to comment on FDR of these methods. 4. I am interested to see the results of Aim3. Potentially if we can setup some rule based selection criteria to recommend a DA method based on data characteristics. Reviewer #2: This proposed protocol by Kohnert and Kreutz proposes to validate and benchmark differential abundance (DA) methods based on simulated data produced by sparseDOSSA2 and metaSPARSim using 38 datasets from Nearing et al. 2022. In a prior protocol report, the authors proposed a methodology for validating simulated datasets to ensure their resemblance to real-world data. This work looks to expand on Nearing et al.’s report and their previous protocol proposal by investigating the incongruence between different DA tools on simulated data with known ground truths on the same 16S rRNA gene sequencing datasets used in Nearing et al., 2022. They have three main aims in their study which in general are to 1) investigate the performance of DA methods using known ground truths in simulated data, 2) to identify whether effect size, sparsity, and sample size have impact on DA performance and 3) to identify dataset characteristics that may be associated with DA method performance. This timely protocol submission will interest the microbiome community and could help future users identify the appropriate DA method for their datasets. Major comments: The authors claim good agreement between the real and simulated datasets in lines 172-174, but the reference provided is merely a protocol without actual results. Including preliminary results and or some other reference here would be beneficial, as part of the study's conclusions relies on the resemblance between real-world and simulated data. The explanation of methods to generate known ground truths for each simulated dataset is unclear and would benefit from more detail, possibly with a figure. Step (2) at line 226 poses a risk of bias, as selecting a random p-value from a family of related tools (like the two limma-voom methods) might skew results toward that family. The authors should heavily consider this aspect of their design. Additionally, comparing results from a NULL dataset with those from one with a known ground truth could be informative (i.e. if sparssDOSSA2 is used to make a null distribution from template X do we expect any tools to identify significant features). The authors plan to use the same DA methods originally published in Nearing et al., 2022. Although many of these methods remain popular, there have been significant updates and new tools introduced since then. To enhance the report's relevance, the authors might consider including newer tools like LOCOM, MaAsLin3, or ANCOM-BCII. Minor comments: Lines 346-352: I would like if the authors could give more details on why they choose this normalization and why it is appropriate for use with metaSPARSim. It is unclear why the authors choose to alter the code for LEfSe testing given most users of this tool would not go through the lengths required to generate p-values for all features. Given this it may be more appropriate to use default settings to reflect real world use (and forgive fdr correction as was done in Nearing et al., 2022). Lines 567-570: It is unclear how the dataset splitting will occur and how we expect this to effect the resulting data. Please give more details about this. Lines 658-667: Indicates results that are ongoing but cannot be assessed and must be taken at face value. It makes evaluating this section difficult. Some preliminary data to justify these results would be helpful. ********** 7. 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Is the protocol technically sound and planned in a manner that will lead to a meaningful outcome and allow testing the stated hypotheses? The manuscript should describe the methods in sufficient detail to prevent undisclosed flexibility in the experimental procedure or analysis pipeline, including sufficient outcome-neutral conditions (e.g. necessary controls, absence of floor or ceiling effects) to test the proposed hypotheses and a statistical power analysis where applicable. As there may be aspects of the methodology and analysis which can only be refined once the work is undertaken, authors should outline potential assumptions and explicitly describe what aspects of the proposed analyses, if any, are exploratory. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Is the methodology feasible and described in sufficient detail to allow the work to be replicable? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors described where all data underlying the findings will be made available when the study is complete? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception, at the time of publication. The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above and, if applicable, provide comments about issues authors must address before this protocol can be accepted for publication. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about research or publication ethics. You may also provide optional suggestions and comments to authors that they might find helpful in planning their study. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thanks for addressing and answering questions from the previous round of reviews. I appreciate your efforts in preparing the manuscript and carrying out the work to help microbiome research identify the appropriate DA methods. 1. Thank you for including the newer MIDASim method and expanding the study to cover more DA methods in the revised manuscript. 2. Thanks for including the methods planned for AIM3. Hopefully, this will guide the microbiome researchers in selecting appropriate methods for analysis. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy . Reviewer #1: No |
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