Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionOctober 9, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-44037Comparing Academic Performance of Elementary Education Majors in General Education Science CoursesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Nixon, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 29 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes Reviewer #5: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for the opportunity to review your research on this intricate and thought-provoking topic. Your dedication to addressing such a challenging area is commendable. While I found the methodology and analysis to be sound, I have several suggestions regarding the introduction, literature review (LR), and discussion sections that could enhance the clarity and depth of the study. One key issue is the comparability of the student groups analyzed. It is unclear whether these groups share similar academic and cognitive characteristics at the point of university admission. Are they assessed and admitted using comparable criteria, and do they begin with equivalent levels of knowledge and skills? Establishing that the groups are indeed similar is essential, as this underpins the rationale for expecting comparable academic performance. Providing additional evidence on their profiles would strengthen the foundation of the comparisons made. In the rationale section, the distinction between elementary education majors and other groups could be more clearly articulated. Specifically, what aspects of their educational backgrounds set elementary education majors apart from students in other disciplines? Clarifying this distinction would help readers better understand the relevance and purpose of the comparisons in your study. Although the LR section presents a compelling argument, it might be worth considering that institutions offering teacher education programs may not prioritize science competency as a standalone outcome. These programs may instead focus on integrating content knowledge with pedagogical training. However, the study does not provide sufficient detail about the curricular focus of these programs. Including such information would help contextualize your findings and provide a clearer picture of the institutional goals. Additionally, the concern raised about the relevance of general education courses may not be unique to elementary education majors. Students from other disciplines could also view these courses as less directly applicable, as they primarily focus on content knowledge rather than its integration with discipline-specific pedagogical methods. Expanding on this broader perspective would add depth to your argument. While the results indicate similar performance levels between elementary education majors and other students in general education courses, they may not fully capture important aspects of teacher readiness. Academic performance, as measured by grades, might overlook critical elements such as pedagogical skills, subject matter expertise, and practical teaching experience. The lower performance of elementary education majors in Physical Science compared to STEM majors is particularly noteworthy. This could reflect differences in the design and focus of teacher education curricula or even individual personality traits influencing career choices. A discussion of these potential factors would provide a more nuanced interpretation of your findings. Furthermore, achieving similar content knowledge does not necessarily translate into equivalent pedagogical potential. High grades might reflect a focus on maintaining a strong GPA rather than genuine engagement with the material's relevance to teaching. Addressing this limitation and including counterarguments would help present a balanced discussion. The study would benefit from a more detailed exploration of its implications. How do these findings inform the preparation of future educators or the design of teacher education programs? Are there recommendations for making general education courses more relevant to teacher preparation? Highlighting these aspects would enhance the study’s contribution to the field. In conclusion, addressing these points would improve the clarity and comprehensiveness of the introduction, literature review, and discussion sections, ultimately making the study more impactful. I look forward to seeing how these suggestions are incorporated in the revised version. Reviewer #2: Abstract and Introduction: Include specific implications for educational practice and policy in the abstract and introduction. Methods: Provide a rationale for relying on grades and consider acknowledging potential confounders more explicitly. Limitations related to potential sampling biases (e.g., students changing majors) are only briefly mentioned and could be elaborated on. Results: Explore potential mechanisms driving differences between groups and address variations in course grading rigor more thoroughly. The results section could benefit from more detailed exploration of why elementary education majors perform similarly to or differently from other groups in specific courses, beyond referencing existing literature. Discussion: Expand on practical recommendations for improving general education courses and propose concrete strategies for enhancing science education for preservice teachers. Conclusions: Highlight broader implications for teacher preparation programs and elementary education. References: Some references to "Author" placeholders are incomplete. Reviewer #3: The paper addresses a common misconception that elementary education students do not perform as well as other students on campus. This is presented as a comparison of grades across general education courses with other categories of majors. The authors directly note that grade attainment is not the same as learning the content. The study is well designed, and the data analyses are reasonable for the claims they are making. The writing is clear and error free. I recommend accepting the paper. Reviewer #4: Abstract: - The research goal should be rephrased, make it more clear for the reader. - The work significance for the research field should be detailed. I could not revise the figures: they had not been provided to me. Suggestions of rephrasing: - “As noted by Rice (2005, p. 1078), there is an assumption that preservice elementary teachers “entering teacher education [programs] have adequate science subject matter knowledge" from their prior coursework. - Therefore, our research question is: How do the grades of elementary education majors compare to the grades of other students in general education courses? - “Canfield and colleagues (2015) found”. Canfield et al. (2015) - “found that high school GPA, the result of years of grades, was a strong predictor of success in college, stronger than ACT scores”. When you use, for the first time, one acronym, please explain it. Another example: “ELED was included as its own…” - Table 1 is more useful if it appears next to the place where it is cited. The same comment for the other tables and images. - Please set a criteria and always follow it: use , or . (n = 2,661, 1.4% of the total sample). Is it 2661, or 2,661? Phrases that I did not understand: - a faculty member who teaches these general education courses becomes a “de facto…teacher educator” (Grossman et al., 1989, p. 25). - “Admittedly, this relevance could come from a low-level sense that the course is required for graduation and, even then, could simply be at the level of making the grade rather than deeply understanding”. It is difficult to find results that clearly support this statement. The paper presents a very interesting literature review. However, the 63 works cited have an average age of 2009: it is more than 15 years old. Therefore, we suggest an effort, from the authors to update this literature review. This great literature review is not, afterwords, used in the discussion section. Of 63 works cited, only 9 are used to confront the author’s results, in the discussion section. That option is very questionable. It is, indeed, unintelligible: a great literature review which is not used to discuss the results. It is missing the bibliographic reference for “Evagorou et al., 2022”. Reviewer #5: The study addresses an important topic by exploring the academic performance of elementary education majors in general education science courses.However, more context about how the findings inform teacher preparation programs would strengthen the paper. Consider rephrasing the conclusion to emphasize the implications for teacher preparation programs. Adding specific examples of the content mismatch between general education science courses and elementary teaching requirements could enhance the argument. The results are well-organized. Figures and tables are clear, but including more visualizations, such as boxplots or scatter plots, might help readers grasp the variability in grades across majors and sections. Confidence intervals and significance levels are reported effectively. Adding effect sizes could further contextualize the practical significance of findings. The discussion highlights the relevance of grades as an indicator of success but could benefit from deeper exploration of how perceptions of relevance impact performance. The authors acknowledge the limitations of using grades as a proxy for learning. Minor grammatical issues and awkward phrasing exist (e.g., "While we focus on course grades in this study" in the introduction). A thorough proofreading is recommended. While the manuscript presents a valuable and well-conducted study, several areas need refinement, particularly in connecting findings to implications for teacher preparation and enhancing clarity in data presentation. Addressing these issues will strengthen the manuscript and its contribution to the field. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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Comparing Academic Performance of Elementary Education Majors in General Education Science Courses PONE-D-24-44037R1 Dear Dr. Nixon, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Miguel Ángel Queiruga-Dios, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Dear author, Thank you very much for the response to the reviewers and for sending this manuscript, which enriches the scientific literature. Kind Regards, Reviewers' comments: |
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