Peer Review History
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PONE-D-24-20562Tracing the evolution of key traits in dorid nudibranchsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Layton, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 02 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org . When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In the manuscript, the authors traced the evolution of key traits in dorid nudibranchs using accumulated data. The study provides insight into the most recent common ancestor of the nudibranch group, a complicated subject because of the lack of fossil records. Therefore, the manuscript is potentially considered for publication in the journal. However, there are some points in the manuscript that the authors should check and improve before the final decision of the editor. - The first thing the authors should notice is the novelty of the study. Actually, the findings of the manuscript could be found elsewhere in the previous study. Thefore, the authors should add more information to highlight their novel points in the study. - The findings of the current study mainly relied on the phylogeny of dorid nudiranch. However, it should be noted that the investigation of dorid nudibranch phylogeny is a complicated subject as tree topology is varied if different markers or approaches are used. Therefore, in addition to a few genes, larger data such as the mitogenome and transcriptome have been used for nudibranchs and may provide better resolutions. Some studies have been published, and the authors should refer to the manuscript. Also, in tree construction, different approaches are used, such as maximum likelihood and Bayesian inference. Therefore, the authors could consider adding a tree built by Bayesian inference to see similarities and differences between the two methods. - As the author stated in the manuscript, “much of the trait data employed here lacks species-level resolution and might instead reflect broader patterns.” One of the key traits of the dorid nudibranch is the structure of the gill and gill cavity. For these characteristics, Korshunova et al. (2020) have already discussed them in detail. Even though in the present study, the authors did not include the gill and gill cavity for analyses, discussion about these in relation to the phylogeny of the dorid nudibranch is necessary. - Some citations are missing from the reference, such as “Hallas et al. 2017." The authors should carefully check and include them. Reviewer #2: This manuscript describes the authors’ use of publicly available data to construct a phylogeny and trace the evolution of feeding, color pattern and chemical defense (whether sequestered, secondarily modified or synthesized de novo) within dorid nudibranchs. Overall, it is nice to see publicly available data being used to tackle interesting questions about the evolution of color patterns in nudibranchs, which is an area very much in its infancy. However, there are certainly limitations to using these data within dorids since to date, no previously published phylogenetic analysis of Sanger-generated markers has successfully resolved dorid phylogeny (and this problem has yet to be resolved—if possible—with high throughput DNA sequencing data). The lack of phylogenetic resolution seems to be a huge hurdle to tracing evolution of traits within this group. Based on their analyses, the authors claim that the most recent common ancestor to dorids likely fed on sponges, possessed complex color patterns, and sequestered defensive metabolites from their sponge prey. In it’s present form, this manuscript is not ready for publication, but I encourage the authors to revise and resubmit. Generally, there are some definitions that need to be better defined with respect to the traits explored in the paper, and more details need to be included for the methods and results. There are also parts of the paper that are factually inaccurate and need correction. I have included some general suggestions for the authors on ways to improve the manuscript, as well as more specific suggestions according to specific line in the manuscript. Some thoughts on chemical defense: Chemical defense within sea slugs is not my primary of expertise, but it is unclear to me whether there is a distinction to be made between the use of secondary metabolites vs acid secretion within the context of heterobranch “chemical defense”. I have interpreted this distinction from existing literature. Are both of these considered chemical defense in the context of this study? I think the former are far more common within nudibranchs, and the latter far more common in the sister taxon, Pleurobranchomorpha (see Wägele et al., 2017), but acid secretion is used for defense in at least some nudibranchs. However, perhaps this is an outdated or oversimplified artificial distinction (?). Are the two phenomena related in some way, e.g. developmentally? If there is a distinction to be made, then I think it would make the paper more robust to make/address that distinction in the introduction or discussion. In other words, how chemical defense is defined will have an impact on our understanding of how the mechanisms have evolved within sea slugs. Similarly, does secondary modification imply that species that do this are also sequestering from their prey? If so, then shouldn’t the taxa that are considered to be secondary modifiers also sequesters? If a species synthesizes de novo, does that mean that by definition they are incapable of secondary modification? or can they be considered to “secondarily modify” if they modify a molecule that they synthesized themselves? It would better serve this work to clearly define what each of these mean. Lines 36-7 contain what appears to be an error, stating that Doridoidei “is the most diverse heterobranch group.” This depends on what the author means by “diverse”. The most speciose heterobranch group is most definitely the terrestrial Stylommatophora, but perhaps the author is referring to diversity of morphology? or perhaps meant to say the most diverse/ or speciose marine heterobranch group. There are many ways to resolve this. Line 44: I “species poor” might be a better alternative to “less-diverse” sister group Lines 46-47: There are so many species of dorids that do not feed on sponges. Is there a citation to support that most are thought to feed exclusively on sponges? or some basic numbers you could include here? As written this feels like an oversimplification. I can think of many dorids that feed on bryozoans, barnacles, tunicates, spirorbid worms, entoprocts, even ophiuroids. Perhaps a better distinction to be made here, which I think you started to do is generalist feeders vs specialists. Line 48: I suggest to add “marine” in front of “heterobranchs” or find a citation that suggests this is applicable for terrestrial heterobranchs (if it is!). Terrestrial heterobranchs vastly outnumber marine ones, but these two citations apply to marine lineages. Line 68: substitute “often” for “typically” and is there a reference you can cite here? Line 75-77: These citations focus on chromodoridids, Knutson and Gosliner 2022 is another, more recently published example of distantly related species sharing similar color patterns, but from within a group of non sponge feeding, non-chromodoridid dorids Line 84: Presumably this has been studied within marine fishes, which are speciose and also feature many diverse color patterns? If so, then this should be touched upon here, or if not, then this could be used as an extra point for how little is known in marine systems, otherwise, specify marine invertebrates Lines 85-86: Perhaps using molecular methods, but authors have previously discussed evolutionary scenarios for evolution of prey and metabolite sequestration vs synthesis de novo, see for example Cimino and Ghiselin 1999 and references therein. It would be good/appropriate to acknowledge this historical context since this has been a question of interest for some time. Methods: “Mining” seems vague here. “Data mining” often implies computer automation, but if you automated this process, then there are details that are missing from within the methods here. I suggest modifying the language with to language without misleading connotations Lines 104-5: Did you encounter multiple representatives that may have had “sufficient genetic data to support phylo. reconstruction”? if so, how did you choose which taxa/sequences to use? Line 125: brackets- in my copy they are parentheses, not brackets Table 1: While a supplementary document is included that lists the references used to complete the trait data in this table, it is not clear in many cases which reference was used to specify trait data for a particular taxon. It is essential that the authors link the specific traits to the actual sources for the work to be fully transparent and useful to future researchers—perhaps this can be done with superscripts or subscripts, if allowed by the journal formatting. Phylogenetic and ancestral state reconstruction. The authors chose to only include one phylogenetic reconstruction method (maximum likelihood, ML with bootstraps) for their phylogeny, though it is generally accepted within systematic studies to additionally run Bayesian Inference and present the support values from each method. Occasionally these methods corroborate each other and other times they may show conflict. Given the lack of resolution of this phylogeny, it seems particularly appropriate to include results from Bayesian Inference. Authors should perform Bayesian Inference, ensuring convergence of chains, and present these results alongside the ML results, addressing any conflicts or consistencies between methods. I have minimal experience with Ancestral State Reconstruction, so I cannot directly comment on the methodology employed by the authors for this purpose. Lines 161/2: Again, I’m less not very familiar with the details of using BayesTraits, but certainly some details of the analyses have been left out of this section? MCMC should have parameters that are set, right? and you need to have reached convergence for the results to mean anything… I couldn’t find it mentioned in the paper that convergence was reached for this analysis. Line 167: replace “resolve” with “reconstruct” Line 176: Please cite here the studies that find Actinocyclidae as sister to all other Doridoidei. E.g. Kurshonova et al 2020 does not demonstrate that Actinocyclidae is the sister group to the rest of Doridoroidei. If you look closely at their tree, most nodes at the backbone of dorids have no support (they neither listed the actual support, nor collapsed the unsupported nodes). The Hallas paper presented many differing topologies, in part to show how different alignment methods impacted the resulting trees. What is more interesting, is that this lack of phylogenetic resolution at the backbone of dorids likely reflects rapid diversification and ancient incomplete lineage sorting, etc that makes this phylogeny particularly difficult to resolve. Lines 184/5: To be fair, some of these genera have been described or resurrected since these two older papers were published. Line 235-238: It is not clear what this sentence or the reference is meant to add here to this section. please rework Line 245: Technically, the species of Gymnodoris that you’ve included in your phylogeny (G. ceylonica) does not feed on nudibranchs, it is documented to feed on other lineages of sea slugs. Remove “(nudibranchs)” Line 283: This sentence contradicts your dataset. Table 1 shows that Lecithophorus, Colga and Vayssierea (which, less face it…it’s a polycerid) are all uniform in color pattern, and I can think of other polycerids as well. “entirely absent” is not true in the case of polycerids. References: The authors must double check the entire manuscript to ensure that all references cited in the text appear in this section. For example, I noticed that Hallas et al. 2017 was cited a few times, but it is not listed in this section. Figures: The full tif file of images (Fig 1) looks great. However, the downsampled image that downloaded as part of the reviewer pdf is way too dark and compromises the messages that the authors are trying to make about color patterns. To the authors- make sure to work with the editors to make sure that the final published version is still visually acceptable ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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