Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionOctober 11, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-45322Regional normative thresholds predict functional disability in older Turkish patients with Diabetes Mellitus better than EWGSOP2 and regional calculated thresholdsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Çavdar, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 10 2025 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I would like to commend the authors for their valuable and impactful research. Your work addresses an important topic and holds significant potential for application in clinical settings. DM is a prevalent condition that is related to disability, the early detection of muscle weakness can be useful as a preventive goal for disability. However, there are few concerns that need to be addressed 1. Data availability statement: If possible, consider sharing a subset of anonymized data to help others replicate your study while respecting the constraints. 2. Regarding exclusion criteria: Apart from neuropathy, did the authors exclude conditions that cause hand pain, or deformity? 3. The EWGSOP2 consensus thresholds for HGS is based on the measurement by the Jamar dynamometer. The Takei T.K.K. 5401 digital dynamometer underwent validation against Jamar hydraulic dynamometer and although there was good intraclass correlation coefficient but the minimal detectable change was 10.14%. According to the Bland-Altman plot, the Takei dynamometer overestimated GS measurements by 0.85 kg (bias: −0.85, 95% CI −1.47 to −2.22). Low GS prevalences according to the EWGSOP2 thresholds [1] by the Jamar, and Takei dynamometers were 6.4%, and 4.5% in all participants, 4.8%, 0% in women, 8.3%, 10.4% in men, respectively. And the authors concluded that Takei dynamometer overestimated GS over the Jamar dynamometer. Savas, S.; Kilavuz, A.; Kayhan Koçak, F.Ö.; Cavdar, S. Comparison of Grip Strength Measurements by Widely Used Three Dynamometers in Outpatients Aged 60 Years and Over. J. Clin. Med. 2023, 12, 4260. https://doi.org/10.3390/jcm12134260 4. Were the sample participants were assessed for frailty phenotype? Frailty is one of the most important predisability conditions that is prevalent in diabetic older adults that include muscle weakness as a core domain for diagnosis. 5. Discussion needs to be supplemented with pathophysiological explanation for the presented associations. 6. Regression analysis is needed to adjust for HL , CVD, poly pharmacy, and BMI as possible predictor for disability and muscle weakness 7. The figures need to be of higher quality Reviewer #2: Regional normative thresholds predict functional disability in older Turkish patients with Diabetes Mellitus better than EWGSOP2 and regional calculated thresholds This study examined the predictivity of muscle weakness defined as low grip strength thresholds determined by EWGSOP2, and two regional thresholds in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus for functional disability. Conclusion was that regional normative thresholds predicted both ADL and IADL disability in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus. The topic of this study is interesting. However, I do have some points in the text that I would like to raise. Authors have used a lot of abbreviations throughout the manuscript and in tables as well in figures. Excessive use of abbreviations makes the text confusing and reading is difficult. As it is mentioned in the submission guidelines of the journal the number of abbreviations should keep to a minimum. I suggest that Authors think carefully what abbreviation are necessary in this manuscript. For example, grip strength does not need abbreviation and in the Table 1 diseases such as HT, HL, CVD can also be written as a whole. Similarly, the title of the manuscript uses the abbreviation EWGSOP2. Authors cannot assume that all readers know what the abbreviation means. Could this EWGSOP2 be written at least a little open in the title or then modified the title again without the acronym. Line 75, Introduction. Authors mentioned the purpose of this study. I suggest mentioning already here that three different thresholds will be used and compared in this study. Authors use the EWGSOP2 one of the thresholds. I am not sure if all readers know what is this EWGSOP2. When this is mentioned at the first time in the line 66, I strongly suggest telling briefly what this is and first write it as a whole and the give the abbreviation. Page 4, line 96, Materials and methods. Socio demographic data were also noted in all patients. What socio demographic data were used in this study, this information could write here. Page 4, line 100. Authors mentioned that grip strength measurement protocol was defined in three references (22-24). However, could you briefly write also here the details of the protocol. Is it maximum strength out of three trial or what? Page 4, line 96. Authors mention abbreviation BMI here at the first time. The abbreviation should be written and BMI in the brackets. Unfortunately, I am not the expert of these kind statistical methods, so I have to leave comments about statistical methods on another reviewers. However, Authors have explained well the levels of specificity, sensitivity, AUC in the text. Table 1 shows that there were statistically significant differences between groups (DM and Non-DM) in diseases, number of medications, BMI, hemoglobin and fasting blood glucose and creatine. However, Authors did not mention this. Is it possible that people in the group of DM could have more diseases that have effect on results? Also, on tables Authors use a lot of abbreviation, too much. I would modify little the topic of the Table 1: Characteristics of the study population including the patients with Diabetes Mellitus (DM) and 147 without Diabetes Mellitus (Non-DM). The appearance of Table 1 and Tables 2 and 3 is different. The quality of figures in its current form is poor and makes it difficult to read. Will they be corrected if the manuscript is accepted for publication? Page 13, line 298. The Authors conclude: We suggest using regional 299 normative thresholds for the assessment of functional disability in older Turkish patients with DM, with 300 normal to overweight and obese body compositions. But what about internationally. What does this study with Turkish patients gives internationally? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Doha Rasheedy Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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The association of muscle weakness, measured by three different grip strength thresholds, with functional disability in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus PONE-D-24-45322R1 Dear Dr. Çavdar, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. 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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: the authors responded adequately to the reviewers' comments. changes in manuscript and figures were performed. logistic regression model of disability was performed Reviewer #2: Thank you to the Authors, they have responded clearly and comprehensively to the questions posed. Authors have changed the title of the manuscript, but I wonder if there are two different options for the title. The highlighted one: The association of muscle weakness, measured by three different grip strength thresholds, with functional disability in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus But there is also another: The association of muscle weakness with functionality in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus The highlighted is a little difficult to read and my suggestion is: The association of muscle weakness with functional disability in older patients with Diabetes Mellitus: Measured by three different grip strength thresholds ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** |
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