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PONE-D-24-22853Hypergamy Reconsidered: Marriage in England, 1837-2021PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Cummins, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Thank you for your submission to Plos One. The referees find the manuscript interesting and appropriate for the journal, but also feel that substantial changes must be made before it can be considered publishable. I would be glad to consider a revised version of your manuscript that takes these comments and suggestions into account. Please submit your revised manuscript Aug 18 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. 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It is regrettable that it contains some problematic structural and methodological elements. The text's structure is confusing and reader-unfriendly, as the part concerning on data analysis and methodology is presented only at the end, after the results and discussion. This reduces the possibility of understanding the text. The data in question was not accessible at the time of the review of the paper. The authors have stated that they will publish it when the paper is published. With regard to the content, the first problem lies paradoxically in what should be the article's strength, namely its long time span. The years 1837-2021 represent a period of significant social transformation, including changes in the way people choose a partner. In this respect, the authors discuss only two factors: the social (comparing the occupations of the fathers of the groom and the bride) and the physical appearance of women, which was used as a counterbalance to the lack of social background. It seems likely that there were a great many other considerations involved in mate selection, particularly after 1914 (and perhaps even more so after 1990). Nevertheless, it is appropriate to evaluate the hypergamy theory for the population entering after 1914, specifically to ascertain whether there is a disparity in the social status of grooms and brides. However, a significant challenge arises when considering the categories being compared. If the objective was to test the hypothesis that women married men who were older and of higher social status than their own families, it is unclear why the grooms' own status was not taken into account. In order to find out whether women actually adopted a strategy whereby they wanted to achieve social mobility through marriage, it is necessary to examine the social status of their grooms, rather than that of the fathers of the grooms. An interesting and appropriate analysis would be to ascertain whether the status of the grooms and their fathers differed. The second contentious aspect is that the fact that a woman marries a man who does not have a higher social status than her at the time of marriage does not preclude the above strategy. This is because many social positions also implied the potential for significant social mobility in the future. To illustrate, if a woman from an artisanal family married a law student or a recent graduate who was, for example, working as a lower law clerk at the time of marriage (which menas that his present social status was similarly of a low rank), and this groom also came from an artisanal family, it can be observed that although formally both fiancés will come from the same social background, the hypergamy theory may still be applicable. This is because the woman may have envisaged in her marriage strategy that her fiancé would attain the position of a lawyer, which would represent a significant social shift. Consequently, it is not possible to apply the same methodology to the post-1914 period as to the earlier period. One reason for this is that women were no longer deriving their social status from their fathers. Therefore, as in the case of grooms, one should work with the social status of brides, not just their fathers. The second, more serious problem is the source base. The authors acknowledge that their data is primarily based on church registers. They also state that in 1914 the proportion of civil marriages was already 24% and rising (reaching 68% in 2012), and they admit that this fact may introduce bias into their results. In addition, the authors also work with an analysis that relates social status to surname for this period. Two potential risks must be considered. Firstly, the fact that someone lives at a particular address does not necessarily mean they are a homeowner; they may just live in a rental property, which generates a completely different property status. Secondly, the social distribution obtained from the occurrence of surnames in 1999 cannot be mechanically applied to the whole period 1912-2007. This is because it is not only social mobility but also geographical mobility that must be considered.Firstly, the fact that someone lives at a particular address does not necessarily mean they are a homeowner; they may just live in a rental property, which generates a completely different property status. Secondly, it is unclear whether the social distribution obtained from the occurrence of surnames in 1999 can be mechanically applied to the whole period 1912-2007. This is because the phenomenon of social mobility must be considered in conjunction with that of geographical mobility. For the aforementioned reasons, I would recommend that the authors limit their study to the period 1837-1914 and elaborate their analysis in greater depth (by adding a comparison of the social status of grooms and their fathers-in-law). Furthermore, I would suggest that they consider whether a coefficient expressing the potential for social growth could be assigned to the various occupations held by men at the time of marriage. It is not the occurrence of social mobility that is important for confirming the hypergamy theory; rather, it is whether it could have occurred. This factor must be considered in the context of the marital strategy. Furthermore, the age of the fiancés should be included in the analysis. Finally, the analysis should be structured more by social groups to avoid the overall result masking the differences between groups. It is conceivable that a specific social group may appear to have a higher propensity for hypergamy than another, but if that group is not large enough, its influence on the overall results will be negligible. Additionally, it is crucial to consider the potential impact of the overall social structure of the society on the results. If a society is relatively poorly differentiated in the sense that the majority of its members belong to the lower (agricultural) strata and, for example, people with a university education represent at most a unit of one percent, then it is clear that social shift is difficult. In such a case, it would be necessary to create a suitable scale that captures even a less pronounced social shift. Related to this is the determination of social status itself, which I believe is inadequately explained in the article. The authors merely state that they assigned occupational scores to fathers using the CAMSIS 1990 scales of social status and that they then constructed their own occupational status for marriages 1837-1939 (as they did for marriages 1940-2021?). The authors do not explain why they did not use another widely applied system, HISCO/HISCLASS. If one is working with a custom social scale, it is important to specify it in more detail. This is because the question is whether the presented conclusion that hypergamy was negligible is influenced by the fact that any social differences were masked by the coding used. In conclusion, I believe that this paper has the potential to yield significant results once the analysis is deepened. These results will make a valuable contribution not only to hypergamy theory, but also to social mobility research in general. Reviewer #2: The paper provides a thoughtful consideration and clear answer to the proposed research question. It also deserves credit for making the still rare distinction between statistical and quantitative significance (especially when the sample size is large). Some minor issues need to be considered before publication to make the paper more accessible to a general audience: 1) If possible, please move the materials and methods section to the usual place between introduction and results (then it would be unnecessary to explain 10-50 and 10-500 frequencies if they appear in the text). 2) Does the study assume relative stability of surname status in England during the 19th and 20th centuries (it seems so, as historical records are linked to 1999 house values)? Are there any studies that confirm or refute this claim? Please cite and briefly discuss them, even if they are self-citations. 3) Please make the list of sources clear. In total there are three types of sources: 1) Database of 1.7 million church marriages in England 1837-2021 2) Population register data on marriages and births in England by surname, 1912-2007 3) House value by surname in 1999 Is this correct? 4) You write "Despite the widespread assumption in the anthropology and sociology literatures that hypergamy of this type was and is a common social practice" - Please cite the sources to support this claim (even if they are referred to in the introduction). 5) Please explain the 10-500 and 10-50 range, it appears for the first time on page 4 with no explanation (only if the materials and methods section remains at the end). 6) Figure 1b - could you reduce the scale of the y-axis - the changes in differences and CIs are barely visible. 7) You write - "The slightly greater measured hypergamy at the level of births compared to marriages would potentially be explained by women with lower surname status having higher fertility". - Is this an actual inference from the data you have or is it based on the literature? Please clarify and cite some appropriate numbers. 8) Technicalities: 8) Typographical errors: a) Typos: bridge instead of bride - p. 7, p. 14 b) All tables and some figures (e.g. S1) are missing. c) Please check the numbers of the figures, as they do not seem to correspond correctly to the content (e.g. Figure 1 is quoted on page 14 and it should be figure 4) ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-24-22853R1Hypergamy Reconsidered: Marriage in England, 1837-2021 PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Cummins, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. While the reviewers have accepted your revision, you are additionally required to address certain points raised by the editorial office. These comments have been the subject of discussion between myself and the editorial team. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 14 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. Comments from the editorial office: - The findings are largely dependent on the claim that the factor of age from the data is a proxy for physical attractiveness, the source of which is not referenced by the literature nor made clear. This claim appears throughout the manuscript, for example: "For women, age can be taken as a correlate of physical appearance, with younger women more physically attractive in the marriage market", which is not supported by any academic references. We feel that this claim should be made much more explicit in the Introduction (and throughout). - In the Methodology, you use CAMSIS 1990 scores of social status for marriages 1940-2021. For marriage 1837-1939 you have constructed their own occupational status association index. While you have responded partly to reviewers query about this, we don't feel the submission fully explains why two different indexes were used and why the cut-off of 1939/1940 was chosen. - Reviewer 1 commented on how fathers' social status may not be the same as their children's social status, and further exploration of parental status vs child status vs married status would be helpful, and while your response to this was considered, we feel this limitation should be at least explicitly stated. - Additional consideration and discussion of the role of maternal status would be helpful - Finally, the structure of the submission also remains unclear, and while the authors have made some changes related to this, we kindly request a clearer adherence to the PLOS ONE manuscript guidelines (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-manuscript-organization). Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. 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Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have implemented proposed alterations to the structure and more effectively articulated the sources utilized, thereby enhancing the article's readability. The incorporation and enhancement of the results and arguments in the supplement are highly beneficial. Furthermore, I appreciate that the authors have responded to my previous comments in great detail and have made efforts to react to them. Despite some remaining reservations expressed earlier, I believe the paper's publication should not be impeded. Given the diversity of approaches among researchers and the influence of their respective specialisms, I welcome the publication of an article that may facilitate constructive debate on this topic. Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Hypergamy Reconsidered: Marriage in England, 1837-2021 PONE-D-24-22853R2 Dear Dr. Cummins, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Grażyna Liczbińska Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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