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Original SubmissionAugust 3, 2024
Decision Letter - Weiqiang (Albert) Jin, Editor

PONE-D-24-32612Larger models mean yield results? Streamlined Severity Classification of ADHD-Related Concerns Using BERT-Based Knowledge DistillationPLOS ONE

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minor revision

Based on the reviewers' feedback, we recommend you need minor revisions. The authors should focus on the following key areas: clearly justify the choice of the BERT-based model over others like GPT or Llama, and provide a comparative analysis of fine-tuning versus knowledge distillation. Address the need for recent references, improve formula numbering, clarify LastBERT's innovation, and enhance data interpretability in tables. Additionally, simplify the introduction and conclusion, improve image clarity, and consider a detailed discussion on limitations.

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Reviewer #2: Partly

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Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: This study investigates the creation of a lightweight yet powerful BERT-based model through knowledge distillation techniques for NLP tasks, specifically classifying the severity of ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) related problems from social media text data.

This research work has certain value and significance, and there are related questions in this article as follows:

1. There are no recent studies and comparative models from 2022 to 2024 in the references. Why?

2. The formulas in the text are not numbered, such as (1), (2), etc.

3. There are two periods at the end of the “Introduction” section.

4. Are there any relevant references on the hyperparameter settings of LastBERT?

5. In Table 7, the number of parameters of LastBERT is larger than that of MobileBERT. Why is the Matthews correlation coefficient on the CoLA dataset and the Spearman coefficient on the STS-B dataset so different from those of MobileBERT? In addition, the comparison model in Table 7 lacks some data support, and the comparison model needs to be expanded to increase the data interpretability of LastBERT.

6. In Table 6, Study 1-6 lacks annotations and the method names should be indicated. In addition, there are inconsistencies in the Dataset part of Table 6. Is the Accuracy indicator still meaningful for reference?

7. Can you clarify the innovation of the model? It is not easy to understand from the text and model framework.

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1. It is recommended to check the clarity of all images in the text, especially the small images such as Figures 7, 8, and 9. It is also recommended to use a magnifying glass frame to display the important areas of some images, such as Figure 4.

2. The conclusion section is redundant. It is recommended to simplify the content and add a discussion section to fully analyze the shortcomings of the model and areas for improvement.

3. It is recommended that the URLs appearing in the references be placed in the footnotes of the corresponding pages of the text.

4. The introduction of the dataset in Section 3 is too much, so it is recommended to simplify it.

5. For the contribution part in the “Introduction” section, it is recommended not to emphasize the use of free computing resources, because many related researchers also complete their experiments and research work based on the free computing resource platform. It is recommended to mention it in the experimental environment setup part in Section 3.

6. The last part of the Introduction section should summarize the main contents of the remaining sections.

7. Are the data in Table 5 redundant? The values of the macro average and weighted average are the same, so it is recommended to keep only one of them.

Reviewer #2: This paper makes several contributions to the NLP and mental health diagnostics field. First, it demonstrates the effectiveness of knowledge distillation in creating a significantly smaller BERT-based model, LastBERT, which reduces parameters without compromising performance. Second, the model shows strong generalization, achieving high performance on the GLUE benchmark across various tasks. Third, it offers practical utility by applying the model to ADHD-related social media data, where it gained a commendable 85% across multiple evaluation metrics. This paper provides a valuable tool for mental health professionals, highlighting its potential in resource-constrained environments. The following are two suggestions to improve the robustness of this paper.

First, this paper should provide a more precise justification for choosing the BERT-based model, particularly concerning the study's specific objectives. It is essential to articulate the strengths of BERT compared to other large language models, such as GPT and Llama. This comparison could enhance the reader’s understanding of why BERT is more suitable for the tasks addressed in the research. Including empirical evidence or relevant literature highlighting these advantages would strengthen the argument. Overall, a more detailed discussion of these aspects is essential for a comprehensive evaluation of the model selection in this paper.

Second, this paper should discuss the merits and limitations of employing a student model for knowledge distillation, particularly in light of existing research demonstrating promising performance from fine-tuning current BERT-based models with small datasets in various NLP tasks, as evidenced by the articles listed below.

- Lin, J., Nogueira, R., & Yates, A. (2020). Pretrained Transformers for Text Ranking: BERT and Beyond. arXiv preprint arXiv:2010.06467.

- Kim, J., Kim, J., Lee, A., & Kim, J. (2023). Bat4RCT: A suite of benchmark data and baseline methods for text classification of randomized controlled trials. Plos one, 18(3), e0283342.

- Kim, J., Kim, J., Lee, A., Kim, J., & Diesner, J. (2024). LERCause: Deep learning approaches for causal sentence identification from nuclear safety reports. Plos one, 19(8), e0308155.

This context is crucial, as it highlights that substantial and efficient modeling can be achieved by fine-tuning the small dataset without the complexity of creating a student model. A comparative analysis between the efficiency of fine-tuning existing models with small datasets and the potential benefits of using a distilled model would provide valuable insights. Additionally, the discussion should address scenarios where the student model might offer advantages and any trade-offs involved in this approach. In conclusion, more thoroughly exploring these aspects will enhance the paper's contribution to the field.

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Revision 1

Manuscript ID: PONE-D-24-32612

Manuscript Title: Larger models yield better results? Streamlined severity

classification of ADHD-related concerns using BERT-based knowledge distillation

Dr. Weiqiang (Albert) Jin, Ph.D.

Academic Editor

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Dear Dr. Jin,

We would like to thank you and the respected reviewers for the time and effort spent

reviewing our manuscript titled: Larger models yield better results? Streamlined

severity classification of ADHD-related concerns using BERT-based knowl-

edge distillation (PONE-D-24-32612). We appreciate the insightful comments and

constructive feedback, which have been invaluable in improving the quality of our work.

In response to the reviewer’s feedback, we have carefully revised the manuscript. Below,

we provide detailed responses to the individual comments raised by the reviewers. We

hope that the changes made to the manuscript have satisfactorily addressed all the con-

cerns raised by the reviewers. We are confident that these revisions have significantly

improved the clarity, quality, and scientific rigor of the manuscript.

Once again, we appreciate the constructive feedback and look forward to your favorable

consideration of the revised version.

Sincerely,

Ahmed Akib Jawad Karim

On behalf of all co-authors

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– Addition of Recent Studies (2022–2024): As suggested by one of the respected

reviewer, we have incorporated recent and relevant studies to strengthen our

work. These include both knowledge distillation (KD) with BERT-related

research and ADHD-specific studies employing NLP techniques:

Knowledge Distillation and BERT-related research:

∗ Kim, J., et al. (2022). Tutoring Helps Students Learn Better: Im-

proving Knowledge Distillation for BERT with Tutor Network. EMNLP

2022. Abu Dhabi, UAE. DOI: https://doi.org/10.18653/v1/2022.

emnlp-main.498.

∗ Lin, J., et al. (2023). Pretrained Transformers for Text Ranking: BERT

and Beyond. JAMIA, 31(4), 949–956. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1093/

jamia/ocad013.

∗ Kim, J., et al. (2023). Bat4RCT: A Suite of Benchmark Data and

Baseline Methods for Text Classification of Randomized Controlled Tri-

als. PLOS ONE, 18(3), e0283342. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1371/

journal.pone.0283342.

∗ Karim, A. A. J. (2024). Peraboom/LastBERT: Streamlined ADHD Sever-

ity Level Classification Using BERT-Based Knowledge Distillation. GitHub.

Available: https://github.com/AkibCoding/Streamlined-ADHD-Severity-Level-Cl

git.

ADHD and NLP-related research:

∗ MedRxiv (2023). Brain-charting Autism and ADHD: Neurobiological In-

sights and Overlapping Traits. Available: https://www.medrxiv.org/

content/10.1101/2023.06.12.23291071v1.

∗ Kim, J., et al. (2024). LERCause: Deep Learning Approaches for Causal

Sentence Identification from Nuclear Safety Reports. PLOS ONE, 19(8),

e0308155. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0308155.

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• Comment: Based on the reviewers’ feedback, we recommend you need

minor revisions. The authors should focus on the following key ar-

eas: clearly justify the choice of the BERT-based model over others like

GPT or Llama, and provide a comparative analysis of fine-tuning versus

knowledge distillation. Address the need for recent references, improve

formula numbering, clarify LastBERT’s innovation, and enhance data

interpretability in tables. Additionally, simplify the introduction and

conclusion, improve image clarity, and consider a detailed discussion on

limitations.

Response:

We appreciate the editor’s feedback and have made the following revisions accord-

ingly:

1. Justification for BERT-Based Model: We expanded the discussion to

explain why BERT-based models were chosen over larger models like GPT and

LLaMA. BERT’s bidirectional nature and efficiency make it ideal for sentence-level

tasks like classification, especially in resource-limited environments, unlike GPT or

LLaMA, which are more resource-intensive. (Page: 7, section:3.1.2)

2. Fine-Tuning vs. Knowledge Distillation: A comparative analysis has been

added in the discussion section (page: 27, paragraph: 2) to contrast fine-tuning

with knowledge distillation. Fine-tuning offers high performance on specific tasks

but is resource-demanding. Distillation offers efficiency and is suitable for real-time,

resource-constrained settings.

3. Recent References: We incorporated relevant studies from 2022 to 2024,

ensuring alignment with current advancements in the field.

4. Formula Numbering: All formulas have been properly numbered for clarity.

(Page- 7, 8, 9)

5. LastBERT Innovation: The discussion now clearly outlines LastBERT’s inno-

vation, focusing on its reduced parameters and applicability in resource-constrained

scenarios, without sacrificing much performance. (Page-5 Section: 3.1.1 and Page-7

Section: 3.1.2)

6. Data Interpretability: We revised Table 7 to improve clarity by remov-

ing irrelevant columns and highlighting key metrics like Matthews correlation and

Spearman correlation where applicable. (Page-26)

7. Simplified Introduction and Conclusion: Both sections have been stream-

lined for focus and readability.

8. Improved Image Clarity: Visuals in Figures 7, 8, and 9 have been improved

for better clarity, with magnified areas for important details. (Page- 20)

9. Discussion on Limitations: A more detailed discussion on LastBERT’s lim-

itations, including its performance on CoLA and STS-B, has been added. (Page

26)

Response to Reviewer #1’s comments and questions:

• Question 1: There are no recent studies and comparative models from

2022 to 2024 in the references. Why?

Response:

Thank you for your valuable feedback. The absence of studies from 2022 to 2024

in the initial version of the manuscript can be attributed to the timeline of the

research. The project b

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Larger models yield better results? Streamlined severity classification of ADHD-related concerns using BERT-based knowledge distillation

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Reviewer #1: The author answered all my questions in detail and thoroughly, and I have no further questions. This article can be considered for acceptance.

Reviewer #2:  The authors have satisfactorily addressed the comments I raised during the previous round of review. In response to my comment, the authors have added a new subsection titled “Rationale for Model Selection” within the Methodology section and the Related Works section. This addition includes a comparison with other LLMs, such as GPT and LLaMA, supported by relevant literature. Additionally, the authors have incorporated a comparative analysis in the Discussion section, which highlights the resource trade-offs and specific use-case scenarios where fine-tuning and distillation-based approaches excel. This addition effectively clarifies the merits and limitations of both methods, enhancing the overall clarity and depth of the study.

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