Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionMay 28, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-19042Investigating the Triple Code Model in Numerical Cognition Using Stereotactic ElectroencephalographyPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lopez Ramos, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 15 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study uses stereotactic electroencephalography (sEEG) to explore the neural mechanisms of numerical cognition in humans. By applying the Triple Code Model, which posits that different brain regions process visual Arabic, auditory verbal, and nonsymbolic analogue numbers, the authors identified a fourth region in the subcortex, the putamen. The brain cortex was extensively covered by numerous sEEG electrodes, and this investigation is potentially important for advancing our understanding of numerical cognition. However, several concerns need to be addressed to clarify the impact of this study. Major comments: 1. The resolutions of the figures are too low to see details or read labels and legends, even in the downloaded tiff files. Therefore, I cannot verify if the authors' descriptions in the manuscript are accurately represented by the figures. 2. As discussed in the manuscript, the involvement of the putamen has been suggested in several prior fMRI studies (e.g., Masataka et al., 2007, Brain and Language; Gullick et al., 2012, NeuroImage; Hofstetter & Dumoulin, 2021, NeuroImage). Early studies (e.g., Dehaene and Cohen, 1997, Cortex) also suggested the involvement of the basal ganglia, including the putamen. Given this background, the novelty of this study is blurred, and the introduction should better justify the need for sEEG over fMRI to understand subcortical contributions. To emphasize the advantages of sEEG, discuss the contributed latencies and frequencies in more detail. Conversely, the current discussion, which mentions the relations between fMRI BOLD and high-gamma, weakens their findings because their new findings of high-gamma contribution can be well predicted in the literature. 3. Although the authors claim that their cortical findings are consistent with the TCM, it is difficult to understand this consistency. The authors list multiple brain regions in their results but do not adequately discuss how these regions align with or differ from the TCM and prior studies. 4. The authors used machine learning classification within stimulus presentation forms, contrasting with inter-trial intervals. This approach may not be optimal for identifying critical brain regions for different numerical representation forms. Instead, classification across all stimulus forms would better highlight the differences in neural processing. Additionally, the current method may not effectively separate perceptual processing from numerical cognition. Including catch trials with fake digits, words, and nonsymbols without numerical meaning could address this issue. 5. The procedure of the SVM classification with PCA has not been well-described, leading to confusion about the outputs of the analyses. The authors first computed principal components of the spectrograms and trained a component-based coefficient matrix consisting of time, frequency, and components. They then computed a channel-based coefficient matrix by applying the inverse matrix of the PCA. Finally, they applied the channel-based coefficient matrix to the test data and obtained a classification accuracy for each stimulus form. However, it seems classification accuracies were computed for each sEEG channel, as shown in Figure 3. This raises the question of how these data were obtained, given that channels were decomposed into principal components, making classification within channels seemingly impossible. Furthermore, the “null distribution” depicted in Figure 3 is not explained in the manuscript. The authors mention using a “one-sample cluster permutation test” on the coefficient matrix of the SVM classification, but there is no explanation of this process either. If the “null distribution” was computed in the permutation test, it should be across clusters rather than channels. This needs to be clarified. 6. Were the classification accuracies cross-validated? The authors mention a "70/30% training-test split." If this means a single random split, I recommend applying cross-validation by repeating the computation multiple times to ensure robustness. Minor comment: 1. The authors interpret their finding of the left parietal cortex's role in processing numerical dots as aligning with "the hypothesized role of the left parietal rgcortex put forth by the TCM." Did Dehaene specifically limit this role to the left side? Also, "rgcortex" appears to be a typo. 2. Figure 9 lacks an explanation of the color-code used. 3. Line 52: "Triple Code Model" (TCM) seems to be incorrectly abbreviated as "TMC." 4. There are inconsistencies in spelling "sEEG contacts" and "sEEG channels." Reviewer #2: This is a very interesting study looking into the triple-code model, providing a neural basis for the model, and understanding it further. The rationale and the purpose of study is clear and valid. I think the parts explaining the electrodes are strong and results are nicely explained for each format. Additionally, discussing the limitations faced during the study were helpful and act as a positive thing, as it could provide valuable insights for future research in this area. The literature review could help tell more about the sEEG and why it might be better than other mediums such as TMS and ECoG. I think knowing a bit more about sEEG in the introduction will help the reader. It is not mentioned but I understand it is a single session study, with its duration, time, and number of trials for each task not known. Providing more information about the methodology, including the study design and parameters, would enhance the clarity and replicability of the research. The results lack statistical analysis of the data. It is more demonstrated using pictures but would be more significant with statistical analysis. I would recommend showing some power statistics for the results, which could provide more credibility to the findings and ensure the study's conclusions are supported by robust data analysis. Overall, this study contributes to our understanding of the triple code model and its neural basis. It might open new avenues for further research in this field, potentially leading to breakthroughs in understanding numerical cognition. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-24-19042R1Investigating the Triple Code Model in Numerical Cognition Using Stereotactic ElectroencephalographyPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lopez Ramos, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 31 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I have reviewed the revised manuscript and am pleased to see that the authors have thoroughly addressed all the concerns raised in the previous review. The revisions have significantly improved the quality and clarity of the paper. Given these improvements, I believe the manuscript is now almost suitable for publication in PLoS One. However, there are minor concerns that should be addressed before publication. 1. The caption of Figure 2 is still confusing, and I highly recommend improving its clarity. In particular, the explanation for panel c is unclear regarding which sub-panel corresponds to which description. For example, if I understand correctly, "(1)" and "(2)" are placed at the end of the explanations, "(4)" and "(5)" are at the top, and "(3)" is in the middle. Please ensure the caption accurately and clearly corresponds to the figure. 2. It appears that Figure 3 was significantly updated, but the caption was not. The caption mentions “a null binomial distribution (gray line),” which I do not find in the current figure. Instead, there are black vertical lines that are not explained in the caption. Additionally, it is still difficult to understand how the “null distribution” was computed based solely on the manuscript. Including the explanation provided in the response to the reviewers within the main text would be beneficial. Also, the closing parenthesis on line 206 seems to be a typo since there is no corresponding opening parenthesis.. 3. The authors mentioned in the response to reviewers that they adopted a 70/30% training-test split, which yielded similar results to six-fold cross-validation. However, the revised main text states, “Six-fold cross-validation was used,” and there is no mention of the “70/30% training-test split” in the current manuscript. Please clarify which method was actually used in the analysis. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Investigating the Triple Code Model in Numerical Cognition Using Stereotactic Electroencephalography PONE-D-24-19042R2 Dear Dr. Lopez Ramos, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Kiyoshi Nakahara, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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