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| Original SubmissionJanuary 16, 2024 |
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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors present a study of generating gusts using vortex rings and have applied it to study response of insects to such gusts. In general the paper is written well, however, there are a few points to be addressed - The vortex characterization is missing any discussion on the formation number of the vortex rings generated. This number is crucial to understand what kind of structure is formed. “A universal time scale for vortex ring formation” (Gharib 1998) is a very important reference regarding vortex ring generation. Given the rings are generated with constant time pulsing and different Reynolds numbers are produced, the vortex rings will have different formation numbers. This difference means the structure of the gust will fundamentally change for each Reynolds number, defeating the whole purpose of the desired well-characterized and repeatable gust. - Furthermore, If the formation number is larger than 4, then not all of the fluid driven by the piston, or in this case speaker, will roll up into the vortex ring, or bubble as it is called in this paper, so any assumptions like equation 7 and the mass fraction relationship in the appendix are potentially flawed. Since there will be a trailing jet which can make the vortex unstable, it might not present a repeatable case of gust generation using vortex rings at such high formation numbers. Have the authors tried lower formation numbers to ensure better repeatability of the vortex ring formation and hence the associated gust? - Could the authors comment on the efficacy of using a bead to estimate the velocity of the gust, perhaps there are better ways of achieving this end outcome? - The authors could take this opportunity to discuss some more about the flight dynamics of the insect under such perturbations. Perhaps estimate some aerodynamics on the flapping wing and comment on the aerodynamic loading and associated responses of the insect. Also comparing these responses to other natural flyers such as birds (across several flapping time scales - eagles/owls to hummingbirds) during gust encounters. Additional specific comments are below - Lines 67-70: Suggest rewording with Vortex ring as the subject as that is what is important, not the impulsive flow. The sentence reads awkwardly with that as the subject. “Vortex rings are generated from…” - Lines 94-95: Saying the piston movement generates the layer of vorticity is awkward. The piston drives a slug of fluid, and it is the motion of this slug combining with the no-slip condition to form a boundary layer. This is important especially in some designs when the piston is far upstream of the nozzle. - Line 96: As this is a general description of a vortex generation, I would say fluid instead of air. - Lines 134-135: Many vortex ring studies are not concerned with the stopping vortex. If it is important to prevent from forming in this application, then provide explanation as to why it is important. - Line 144: missing “a” before “long nozzle” - Lines 145-146: missing “a” or “the” before piston vortex - Line 146: I believe the antecedent of “that” is the plural “disturbances,” so replace with “to those generated using an orifice.” - Line 149: Why have the authors chosen to put “e.g.” in their citation just this one time? Is it more applicable than the other citations? - Line 170: What is meant by “at different points in time?” Either delete or provide more detail. - Line 171: The faster vortex ring is referenced to Figure 3B, and the slower vortex ring is referenced to Figure 3C, but the caption is backwards. Please make the caption and reference agree. - Lines 131-177 - Lines 410-411 The wording defining =0 as the “time instance when no ring is formed” is awkward. Defining that time as the last frame where there is no flow or the instant the vortex generation process begins is clearer. Reviewer #2: This work introduces a system to generate controllable gusts relying on vortex rings for studying animal locomotion. The authors provided detailed design and characterization of the gust generator, and its application for a case study on free-flying soldier flies. In general, I find the paper is very interesting, very well written, and easy to follow. It also provide a useful and easy-to-build method for studying insect and insect-inspired flight in gusty conditions. I have several minor comments for the authors: 1) It is still unclear what is the limitations of existing methods of gust generation in the Introduction (lines 59-64) 2) I recommend to add a sub-title for the result on gust characterization, for example “Generation of gust perturbations” 3) Line 262: “When using a vortex ring as a gust, it should fully encompass the subject.” Why is this a condition? What happen if it cannot cover the subject? For example, the flight trial 4 of the fly in Movie 2 may represent this case as the gust hit the right wing only (or impact stronger on the right wing), causing rolling response of the fly. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: - Appendix line 384 - "... if the formation number (L/D0) is approximately 4 (34)".. should this be "... (L/D0) is limited to approximately 4 (34)" ? Reviewer #2: The authors have reflected all my concerns. The reviewer has no further comments and recommends acceptance. ********** 7. 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