Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionFebruary 8, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-02050Static palpation ain’t easy: evaluating palpation precision using a topographical map of the lumbar spine as a referencePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Kawchuk, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 22 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please see our Supporting Information guidelines for more information: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/supporting-information. Additional Editor Comments: An interesting study which compares palpation of the lumbar spine by experienced clinicians with topographical methods. A fundamental flaw of this study that modern surgical practice in most centres would necessitate an XR irrespective of how accurate landmarks have been demonstrated to be useful given every patient is individual. The authors need to justify the utility of their method in everyday clinical practice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. 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If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for your efforts in compiling this manuscript. I appreciate the opportunity to review it. This manuscript presents important findings that demonstrate the low accuracy of static spine palpation by clinicians. To improve the quality of this article, I suggest that you mention the solutions proposed by literature to enhance the accuracy of this method or alternative methods in the discussion section. Reviewer #2: Hvidkær et al investigate the precision of lumbar spinal palpation by experienced clinicians in treating low back pain. Utilizing data from a previous trial, clinicians marked spinous processes from S1 to T12, and their precision was assessed by comparing these palpation points with a topographical representation of the lumbar lordosis. This is a novel measurement method but does have some concerns about the methodology and clinical meaningful of results The 3-d Wheel method although interesting does bring up some concern. It is unclear if this new method of measurement has been validated. If so, this may be added to the method section. The fact that the plots, in addition to computerized smoothing, required manual adjustment in the Y and X plots does introduce the possibility of Bias which may or may not be random. 1. Further uncertainty in measurement is also inherent to this method such as “breathing, movement, voluntary muscle contraction, or technical errors.“, superficial pen marking, and others which the author acknowledges. The fact that the analysis showed trending nonbias errors also adds to this concern. 2. The method does not indicate whether an a priori study was done to estimate # of patients needed to obtain significance, although this may possibly not be possible as they are using data from another already completed study 3. Clarification of what percentage of data was excluded would also be helpful and whether analysis was performed to see if there was bias on the data excluded/incomplete data 4. Although 95% confidence intervals are shown, data does not show p- p-values when comparisons are done, which could be helpful. 5. The wording “Guidelines for treating non-specific LBP often encourage the use of manual therapy (MT) either as a stand-alone treatment or in combination with other non-pharmacological therapies for non-specific LBP (e.g., exercise)” suggests that the main modality is manipulation and exercises as an adjunct. This is debatable and the wording should reflect that exercise is at least as strongly recommended as a main treatment measure vs other measures. 6. The clinical meaningfulness of ~15mm of imprecision in palpation is unclear. Possible grammatical/formatting errors noted Line 105: “February 1 st 2017 and January 30th 105 2019” –> “February 1st, 2017 and January 30th, 105 2019 “ Reviewer #3: This manuscript analyzes data generated from a clinical (longitudinal) study to evaluate the ability of multiple clinicians to locate the spinous processes through palpation. The study objectives are important, and the study was approved by the respective IRB/ethics board. The analytical methods proposed look straightforward. My comments are as follows: (a) Linear mixed models (LMM) were used to fit "difference in spinous process location" as the response variable. LMMs are based on Gaussian assumptions of the random effects and errors. It is not clear if the authors assessed possible non-Gaussian behavior of the random terms, and thus suggest alternatives. (b) Within the linear mixed model implementation, it is not clear which covariates were controlled for. (c) In the results section, every claim of significance should be followed by a p-value, thereby providing the strength of significance/non-significance. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Sina Afzal Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Static palpation ain’t easy: evaluating palpation precision using a topographical map of the lumbar spine as a reference PONE-D-24-02050R1 Dear Dr. Kawchuk, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Barry Kweh Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): A well written article which addresses the suggestions proposed by the reviewers. In particular, the usefulness of this static palpation method concerning non-surgical as well as surgical specialties. Reviewers' comments: |
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