Peer Review History
Original SubmissionFebruary 9, 2024 |
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PONE-D-24-03114Testing for effects of growth rate on isotope trophic discrimination factors and evaluating the performance of Bayesian stable isotope mixing models experimentally: a moment of truth?PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gurney, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. I have now received two reviews that judge the work to be of value and suitable for publication. The reviewers have provided some recommendations for improvements that should make the contribution clearer and more statistically rigorous. Consequently, I conclude that the manuscript, while having merit, should be returned to you and your co-authors for revision along fairly limited lines. I invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Reviewer #2 in particular recommends that in the revision comparisons of mixing model results should be made across feeding groups, and this reviewer also thought that the reporting of model results in the tables was not as clear as it should be. Please consider the recommendations made by both reviewers as you proceed with your revision. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 16 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. 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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thanks for the opportunity to review your manuscript. I feel that it is a solid piece of work and that relatively minor revisions are needed to make it suitable for publication. My specific comments are as follows: Lines 55-56: I don’t think inert tissues are necessarily sampled non-invasively. For example, plucking a feather or clipping a nail is considered invasive sampling. Lines 184-185: It doesn’t appear that the many of the measured d15N values ended up falling within the range of the values of the standards. What influence might this have on the data? Lines 170-193: I was expecting this section to also detail how the isotope data were normalized to the international scale, but that was missing. Please add those details. Lines 378-379: Although there is a statistical effect of sex on TDF for d13C, the size of this effect (which appears to be <0.3 per mil) is quite small, which seems worth saying somewhere in this paragraph. Discussion: I didn’t feel that the Discussion completely addressed this accuracy-related question that was stated on lines 107-108. Please consider revising the Discussion to do so. Reviewer #2: This study is original and well designed; and the manuscript is well written. I should be acceptable for publication following minor revisions. Specifically, while most of the statistical analyses used in the manuscript is appropriate, I suggest that authors revise their reporting and comparisons of mixing model results across feeding groups. The current approach uses qualitative comparisons and the mean and SD reporting of model results in Tables 4 and 5 makes it challenging for the reader to understand what is being reported in these tables. Specific recommendations are outlined below: Line 228-229: This section described how models with different terms/structures were ranked using DIC but does not include text on how the results of these model quantitatively were compared across diet groups. Based on Figure 5, it appears that this was done in qualitative manner by plotting the actual diet proportions for each group on mixing model posterior distribution plots. I recommend that the authors formalize and describe their approach to comparing model results here in the methods. Specifically, I would recommend that qualitatively compare the actual diet proportions for each group to the 95% CI resulting from each mixing model. If the actual falls within the 95%CI then it is “similar” (i.e., mixing model is accurate) but if it does not than they are different (i.e., mixing model is not accurate). Table 4 & 5: I find these tables very hard to interpret even with the sub-caption. Also it is uncommon to report the results of Bayesian mixing models as Mean±SD. Reporting mixing model results as means ± SDs can lead to biased interpretations and fundamentally does not align with the probabilistic concepts underlying the Bayesian statistics used in these models. While others have reported Bayesian mixing model results in this manner it does not mean that doing so is always appropriate. This is because MixSIAR estimates proportions (that must sum to 1) they are almost always skewed (not a normal distribution). In addition, they can also be multimodal (though that does not appear to be the case in this dataset). That said the posterior distribution plots provided in Figure 5 indicate some long tails that are better accounted for with median and 95%CI intervals provided by MixSIAR. Therefore, please report mixing model results as median values with upper and lower 95% credibility intervals in Table 4 and 1. This will also facilitate the more quantitative comparison between diet groups recommended above. Other comments: - Avoid “isotopic signatures” and use “isotopic values” instead. - Line 173: lipid extraction can bias d15N values in tissues, which can in turn bias mixing model results. (Tarroux, A., Ehrich, D., Lecomte, N., Jardine, T. D., Beˆty, J., & Berteaux, D. (2010). Sensitivity of stable isotope mixing models to variation in isotopic ratios: evaluating consequences of lipid extraction. Methods in Ecology and Evolution, 1(3), 231-241.). Please clarify how this might have affected your results and address this in the discussion. - Line 214: Why 85% and not 95%? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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Testing for effects of growth rate on isotope trophic discrimination factors and evaluating the performance of Bayesian stable isotope mixing models experimentally: a moment of truth? PONE-D-24-03114R1 Dear Dr. Gurney, Thank you for submitting your revised manuscript with attention to meeting or responding to the concerns of the editorial office, as well as the two reviewers who made suggestions that were helpful in improving the presentation of the data and the associated statistics. As a result, I am pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication following a review of any last technical requirements by the editorial office. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. Please make sure your user information is up-to-date by logging into Editorial Manager at Editorial Manager® and clicking the ‘Update My Information' link at the top of the page. If you have any questions relating to publication charges, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Again, thank you for choosing PLOS ONE for presentation of your research results, and I join you in looking forward to the publication of your manuscript. Kind regards, Lee W Cooper, Ph.D. Section Editor PLOS ONE |
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