Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionNovember 10, 2023 |
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PONE-D-23-35504Subjective perception of visual field defects using random noise-moving images in patients with glaucoma: A comparison of computer graphics and analog noisesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Inoue, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 22 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Additional Editor Comments: Please respond to the points raised by the reviewers carefully. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This paper provides a detailed study of the usefulness of CG noise in glaucoma diagnosis. The authors would like to consider the following revisions. 1. There is no mention of recruiting healthy volunteers. Which eye did the authors use as the sample, left or right? 2. In the Table 4, how about using contingency table analysis to compare detection rates at each glaucoma stage? 3. The authors should discuss the fact that the detection rate of M4 is lower than that of M3. Reviewer #2: The authors have developed a novel approach using the random noise-moving images which enables glaucoma patients to aware of the presence of visual field abnormalities. In this paper, they introduced a customized noise images using computer graphics (CG) instead of conventional analog noise. Furthermore, the authors showed that their approach is more effective than the analog noise in evaluating the subjective perception of visual field abnormalities in glaucoma patients. In general, the methodology is reasonable, and there are no apparent issues with the conclusions drawn from the results. However, further explanation should be added in the discussion regarding why the CG images yielded better results compared to the analog noise. While the authors attributed the improvement to the higher luminance contrast between frames, it would be worthwhile to consider other factors, such as the followings. The authors note that the output video utilizing CG images maintains a frame rate of 60 frames per second. However, there is no mention of the refresh rate for the analog noise, which was transmitted through HDMI via the A/D converter. It is important to clarify this point, as even though the HDMI transmission standard may support 60 frames per second, the actual displayed video may depend on the underlying NTSC signal, which is approximately 30 frames per second. If the refresh rate differs, albeit slightly, there is a potential for the effects of temporal summation. The rationale behind using 2mm square dots in CG image is not explained. Considering that the analog noise consists of smaller dots, the difference in the size potentially affects the spatial summation. Minor point: With regard to the HFA SITA test, a false-positive rate of less than 15% is considered as reliable result. Reviewer #3: The authors provide a comparison between static analog noise and a digital approximation of the same noise in terms of making glaucoma patients aware of their glaucomatous defect. This investigation is based on a previously described phenomenon, whereby patients with glaucoma report changes in the way they perceive the analog noise in areas of the visual field affected by the disease. The manuscript is generally well written, although the English language should be revised. Some sentences seem disconnected or not phrased the way the authors probably intended (i.e. the "Purpose" section in the abstract, "Therefore.." is probably non the best connector; a lot of unproven speculations are treated with certainty, such as Lines 47-50 and 428-429, where "will" should really be "may".) In general, I struggle to see the benefit of fixating on analog noise for this specific detection task. A lot more work has been done investigating how noise (digital or otherwise) affects perception in glaucoma (https://tvst.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2778598, https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2770281), which could have been used as the starting point. For example, it would have been interesting to show how modifying certain parameters of the noise affected the perception (or identification) of the defect. For example, one leading theory is that the high frequency cortical filter mechanisms are the first ones to lose sensitivity in glaucoma (see Part II in https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2121924 and https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2163035). This alternative framing would have also given the authors the chance to develop an actual test where participants could have modified some parameters of the noise until the defect became apparent (i.e. a simple detection task, like in perimetry). This would have clarified a lot of the "non reproducible" cases. One methodological issue is the fact that the authors do not seem to have randomized the presentation of their noise stimuli. The analog signal was always presented first. This means that the increased detection rate could be the result of bias, i.e. patients able to see their defect with the analog noise were "primed" to identify the same defect with the digital noise. The agreement is also calculated in a perplexing way, since it could have at least considered quadrants rather than hemifields. Moreover, the way the patients were asked to report the extent of their defect seems very imprecise. Alternative methods could have been used, such as a touchpad, where patients would have had the chance to outline the defects as they were seeing it during the test. Additional care should be taken when considering patients with advanced disease, because a defect will be effectively present everywhere in their field. Since this test only asks patients to compare their perception of relative defects in contrast to the rest of their VF, it might actually lose sensitivity in these patients. Finally, the scope of the investigation is unfocused. The authors initially state their goal is to make patients aware of their defect but then the manuscript gradually shifts into an assessment of a potential diagnostic test. Neither of these scopes seems to be extensively and sufficiently explored. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Subjective perception of visual field defects using random noise-moving images in patients with glaucoma: A comparison of computer graphics and analog noises PONE-D-23-35504R1 Dear Dr. Arata Inoue, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice will be generated when your article is formally accepted. Please note, if your institution has a publishing partnership with PLOS and your article meets the relevant criteria, all or part of your publication costs will be covered. 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According to one of the reviewers, there are still several unresolved issues, such as the uncertainty regarding the usefulness of the test and the lack of randomisation in the testing sequence. However, revision with changes and acknowledging the limitations improved the manuscript and it could be accepted as a research article with an assessment of a potential diagnostic test. Furthermore, there is a patent for a method and device for diagnosing visual field abnormalities (patent No. JP7339900) and an amended statement of Competing Interests to declare this patent (with details including name and number) was provided. Whilst reviewer 3 has provided additional comments alongside their decision, no revisions for your manuscript are required, as the main raised concerns and comments have been adressed. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. 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Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: The authors did not fully address my comments, but I understand some of them have to do with limitations in the study design and cannot be addressed with nothing more than an acknowledgement. Most of the issues still stand, mainly the uncertainty regarding the usefulness of the test and the lack of randomisation in the testing sequence. The authors mention that they wanted to focus on hemifield and imply that analyzing quadrants would have focused the attention on diseases other than glaucoma. I do not uderstand how this is possible, given the current targeting of sample of patients. My suggestion was to increase localization of the defect. For example, a nasal step from glaucoma would result in only one quadrant being affected. The changes to the conclusion have however improved the focus of the manuscript and highlight the potential as a self-screening test, while acknowledging the limitations. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No ********** |
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