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PONE-D-23-28746Mind the ramp: Association between early life ramp use and spatial cognition in laying hen pullets.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Johny, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 16 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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After careful consideration, we have decided that your manuscript needs Major Revision. Kind regards, Prof. Lamiaa Mostafa Radwan, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Editor Comments: 1- Discussion of the results requires more depth in interpreting the results 2- The statistical model needs clarification 3- The entire manuscript needs a brief, more in-depth and clearer writing, with recent references cited. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study tested the association between spatial memory and learning (holeboard test) and voluntary ramp use in laying hen pullets. They found no within-bird consistency for ramp use behaviour. They did find relationships between ramp use frequency and the performance in the holeboard test, some of them supporting their predictions and some to the contrary. The experimental design is sound, though the statistical analyses are perhaps unnecessarily complicated. If no statistician was involved, I would recommend that the authors consult a statistician. If there was a statistician involved, then the section on statistics needs a bit of clarification. The manuscript is well written though it is lengthy and unnecessarily wordy and repetitious at times. My biggest concern is the discussion. There appears to be a lack of references and the structure can be improved by reducing redundant elaborations. Once cleaned up, this manuscript can be a valuable contribution to the laying hen literature. Major Comments Stay consistent with the numbering (spelling out numbers under 10), please check the whole manuscript for inconsistencies. Abstract You need to introduce terminology somewhere: chicks vs hens vs pullets. This journal is not poultry-specific. L27: what analyses? Give a model or analysis type to help understand the results. L30-33: These results are a bit confusing. First, they are trends/tendencies and not significant results, so you should state that. Second, it is unclear what the unit of those estimates are. L37: Please state why this would be relevant/ interesting. Introduction L63: I would suggest exchanging the Campbell reference with Widowski and Torrey’s book chapter on rearing young birds for adaptability: https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/B9780081009154000038. This statement refers to a shift in research interest based on the shift in management. Both the Ferreira and Widowski and Torrey references are revisions of the literature and the importance of research in this area. The Campbell paper is an experiment that can be mentioned later when discussing specific findings. L108-116: This has to go before the research question/objectives (L106-107). Then, add lines 106-107 to the beginning of the next paragraph that contains your predictions. Methods L130-131: It’s a bit confusing to point to your other paper for the pen schematics. I immediately looked at your Figure 1 and expected to see a pen. I would suggest you provide schematics or a photo here. Alternatively, add the reference after your description and say that more information and schematics can be found in Johny et al. (28). But I would prefer a photo or schematics in this paper. L157: How did you choose your random sample? How did you make sure there was no bias (e.g., first catches could be bold, last in the box could be most fearful). L169-173: Unclear what you mean here. What treatments? How were they managed? Why is this important? L292-295: This section needs clarification. I do not understand it. Do you mean the slopes in your statistical model? I also don’t understand why you group the birds into high and low ramp users. I though your sample was random? Did you have two clusters? Elaborate on this and on why you chose to create these categories instead of using their actual frequencies. L306-308: Why did you use bootstrapping to get the main effect p-values? To the best of my knowledge, this method is used to reduce a model and get p-values for reduced factors only. The main effects can be assessed as part of the model. Was a statistician involved in this analysis? If so, I will retract my comment. Otherwise, I would like you to consult a statistician. L326: If you only include non-zero observations, are you not biasing the analysis? What if a bird uses it occasionally? As I understand it, you would overestimate the repeatability by only including the observations where the bird happened to use the ramps and excluding observations where it didn’t. Results I recommend making the sentence about the effects of p<0.01 less vague. If you decide to report tendencies (which you need to clarify in the stats section), report them without embellishments. E.g., ‘errors tended to decrease with trial number’ instead of ‘with very limited statistical support, Y made slightly fewer errors’. L385-386: I am still confused about where these high and low classifications come from… and now there is a medium group. Was I supposed to know that? Maybe I missed it. L448: I am not sure if removing these data points is appropriate. What if the group you claim learned faster actually had trials in there that were not completed? I recommend analyzing it with the complete data set or declaring which ramp use groups the omitted data points came from if they were exclusively from low ramp users. Discussion There is a general lack of references supporting sweeping statements in this discussion. Please put your results into the context of existing literature and how your study adds to the knowledge base. There is also a lot of repetition that could be cut down (e.g., repeating of your own results in every paragraph). L497-505: But your birds’ ramp use behaviour was inconsistent over time. How would that translate to personality, which is what you are implying but not spelling out here. L568-572: Why would this only affect the uncued phase? If HR pullets do better in the cued but not the uncued phase, would this mean there is no difference in spatial learning (location) but only in association learning (colour)? L580-583: WoA 19 is not the start of peak of lay, and WoA25 is not sexual maturity… it would be the reverse. Are you sure these ages and the terminology have the correct references? I also think that these are two different aspects. Sexual maturity would end the ontogenesis and be accompanied by hormonal changes and, in the case of laying hens, also with a change in housing. The peak of lay is well after that and is not initiated by hormonal or housing changes. I would be hesitant to group those two results and make one statement about behavioural consistency during ontogeny. L590-593: As ramp use was the behaviour in focus, why choose an observation period that you think is too short? If you had good reason to assume it was appropriate before you started, you should not backtrack now but rather accept your results. If you have reason to believe it was inappropriate based on new information after the fact, please add a section with limitations and explain your initial rationale and what changed. L593-596: No. You tested a hypothesis and did not reject the null hypothesis. If you have reason to assume a type 2 error, you must provide it. Otherwise, you cannot state your initial prediction after not confirming it. Also, what is ‘short-term’ consistency even? If you introduce a vague term like that, you have to define it and back it up with literature. Minor Comments Do not be alarmed by the number of comments, most are very small and should be easily addressed. Abstract L19: ‘affect the brain’ is very vague. Be mor specific or don’t mention the brain. L25: ‘observation period’ what ages are those? Instead of observation period. Give an age range. L25-26: ‘spatial cognition’ be more specific on what aspect of spatial cognition this test is assessing. L26: The verb refers to spatial cognition not to the birds. Change ‘were’ to ‘was’. L29: ‘averaged across all observation days’ is redundant as you already stated that you analyzed the means. L30: spell out Est and CI when you first use it. Introduction L67-68: I don’t mean to increase my own citation but there is newer literature on this which also happened to be mine… I’m not telling you to include it, but you might want to consider it. See https://doi.org/10.1016/j.applanim.2023.105997 L69-70: Same comment as above. Consider including this reference as it is more recent: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-023-35956-1 L88-91: This sentence is too long and complex and I am not sure what the content is. Not only do they use ramps to transition between tiers but also to… what? L96: The ‘inter’ part of inter-individual differences is redundant as there can be no intra-individual difference in cognition as far as I’m aware (unless you do a before/after thing). Adding the ‘inter’ suffix draws attention and seems unnecessarily confusing. L96-97: This sentence is a bit awkward. I would suggest rewording it. Here are two suggestions, but it’s obviously up to you. ‘There has been a recent peak in the interest in individual cognitive differences and their importance in the study of cognition.’ OR ‘Individual cognitive differences and their importance in the study of cognition have received a recent increase in interest/attention.’ L97-98: Add a comma after surfaces L99-100: Personally, I would say locomotion instead of movement behaviour, but that’s just a suggestion. Or are you talking about types of locomotion? L99-101: ‘individual differences’ three times in one sentence. I would change the last one to say ‘can lead to differences in developmental trajectories’. The whole sentence is a bit vague. I would say ‘results in’ instead of ‘can result in’ as the start of the sentence already states that this is a possibility and not a fact. L103: ‘Hence, it is important…’, but that might be a personal preference. L104: Again, just say individual differences, not individual-level differences (redundant). Or rephrase to say ‘differences at the individual level’. L106: The ‘inter’ part of ‘inter-individual variation’ is redundant. L107: Here too, I find that spatial cognition is too broad a term for a holeboard test. Say what aspect of spatial cognition you were testing. L117-120: this sentence is too long. Break this into two or even three sentences. Methods L129-130: Either say ‘All pens housed 22 birds’ or ‘Pens housed 22 birds each’. Using ‘all’ and ‘each’ is too unnecessary. L136-137: half of this sentence is redundant. The pen floors were covered in wood shavings (dimensions). OR The pen floors were littered with wood shavings (dimensions). L138: plastic barriers made of metal sheets? Generally, that sentence is a bit wordy. Simplify L141: why were they confined for the first 4 days? I know why, but you need to spell it out (briefly!) for non-poultry people. L142: What do you mean by feeder plate? Like a flat dish? Can you give a description? L147: It would be nice to have the LUX. I’m assuming it changed with age, so you could add it to the sentence where you give the change in light period length. L151: Wordy -> five minutes at dawn and 30 minutes at dusk. L151: Why say that daylight was blocked? It would suffice to say there was none. Or even better, add ‘there was no natural light’ to your lighting sentence. L167: How do you know there was no aggression? Anecdotal observations? Injuries? L178-179: The software ‘recorded the behaviour’? Did it code it? Did it record locations? How? Did it record birds, and you recorded the behaviour? L180-186: There are many repetitions here and it’s wordier than necessary. I suggest rewriting this passage, making it more concise. E.g., “…: the inter-tier transitions (up and down combined) and active behaviours on the ramp (walking, running, wing-assisted incline running, jumping to or from the ramp without changing tier; see ethogram in Johny et al (28)). L207-208: Hence, birds were visually but not auditorily isolated. L209-211: Don’t repeat the information that is in the figure. The arena held eight circles containing small cups to provide the reward (grape pieces). Figure 1: It might help to visualize that 1B represents half of 1A. E.g., you could draw lines from the corners of one pen to the corners of the arena. L220 ff: This should go into the paragraph ‘Cue phase trial’. Continuing to habituation from here seems like a step back. I suggest you rename this paragraph to ‘Arenas’ and only include the arena description. It would make more sense to go from ‘Arenas’-> ‘Habituation’ -> testing procedure. L234: Did you ensure that your focal birds had eaten the grapes during the habituation period? L234: How did you choose the focal birds? Convenience sampling? L254: Did you use a learning criterion, or did all birds eat all grapes in all trials? L259: I suggest you move the information on the learning criterion of the uncued phase into the section about the uncued phase. Also, If birds reached the criterion early, did they still do all 20 trials? L283: what is the unit here? L288 ff: To delete the very long and complicated sentence on L288-292, you could include the number of trials like so: “… , we compared errors of each bird from the three trials before and three trials after a phase change …” This is only a suggestion. L302-305: Out of curiosity, what was wrong with your main effects before? I have not seen this to be necessary before, does it not over-specify your models? L332: what treatments? You cannot expect people to read other papers to understand this one. Results Furthermore, many repetitions can be avoided by adding units (count/3min). The reader can be trusted to remember that there were 8 bouts per 7 observation days after you mentioned it once. L365-368: Repetitions and inconsistencies. You are giving the mean, min, and max count/3min for the individual observations but the mean you call a frequency and the min and max you don’t specify. This could be more concise and clarified. Also, you repeat ‘8 bouts per 7 observations days’ which is unnecessary. Furthermore, you are inconsistent with the numbering. It makes the passage more complicated and harder to understand than need be. L388: I suggest you delete the word ‘seem’. It either influenced it or not. You can even say you didn’t detect an effect of… but be less vague. Figures 2-3: I recommend only showing the statistically significant results (Figure 3); the others are sufficiently described in the text (also for Figure 4). If you choose to show all plots, I recommend merging 2 and 3 into one plot with two panels, as the caption is the same. Figures 2-4: I am confused about the colour changes. The grading is according to the Y-axis and does not add information. It made me think there were different treatments. L459-460: You have been using HR and LR for a long time at this point; no sense in spelling it out in this bracket. The bracket might be superfluous anyway, especially if you added a section explaining how you defined these groups, as I recommended earlier. Table 1: Please add indicators for significant differences (e.g., superscript letters). Discussion L478: specify the aspect of spatial cognition you assessed. L479: specify the early life period. If you refer to the first eight weeks, move it up from the end of the sentence. L481-488: Add which results supported your hypotheses and which didn’t. L491: Add reference supporting your statements. L518-530: Most of this is not new information. This whole paragraph seems redundant. Add the main points to the last paragraph where needed and delete this paragraph. There is also a lack of references backing your statements. L587-590: The cattle example seems out of place. I recommend you remove it. L597-614: This paragraph seems out of place and irrelevant. It adds no new information and does not support your suggested interpretations. I recommend deleting it as it dilutes your discussion. L615-620: This would be very interesting sections on limitations. However, I am missing a discussion on the consequences of these limitations. How could these limitations affect your results and interpretation? L627-629: Add references to all of these statements. L634-636: That was done here: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.applanim.2023.105997 and to a degree here: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-023-35956-1. Reviewer #2: Consideration of welfare in laying hens is good area of research, specially when battery cages are not much in use in Europe. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: As far as I can tell, the authors have addressed all my concerns and greatly improved the quality of this manuscript. Well done Reviewer #2: Its a well written paper, it would be great to go ahead with this topic and evaluate the impact of ramps with bird's production performance and various welfare parameters. ********** 7. 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