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PONE-D-24-00299Kolmogorov measures for L2 writing complexity: A cross-linguistic perspectivePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Alzahrani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 29 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: General comment: This study aims to investigate the differences in L2 syntactic complexity in the writings of learners with different proficiency levels and L1 backgrounds. The author contends that previous complexity measures are unreliable due to their susceptibility to the influence of learner errors and their “language-specific” nature. To address this, the author suggests using Kolmogorov complexity as a more robust and reliable measure of syntactic complexity. The study concludes that Kolmogorov complexity could be a valuable metric in L2 writing research due to its cross-linguistic flexibility and holistic nature. While the study is well-designed and its findings have important implications for L2 complexity research, there are some major issues in the manuscript that need to be addressed. Specific comments: 1. The main issue in this manuscript is the critique of current syntactic complexity measures, such as the mean length of sentence and clause (MLS and MLC). Much of the criticism is not entirely accurate. For instance, the author asserts that "common complexity metrics in L2 writing research are either tailored to specific languages… (p. 31)." The author should be cautious when using the term "language-specific," as the majority of existing complexity measures are, in fact, language-neutral. Many measures (e.g., MLS and MLC) can be utilized to assess syntactic complexity in writing across various second languages (L2s), apart from L2 English. Furthermore, numerous studies have sought to investigate the applicability of these traditional measures in evaluating L2 writing development in L2 Chinese, French, Dutch and German, to name a few. As argued by the author, the main problem lies in the lack of tools to automatically calculate the scores of these measures for other L2s. Therefore, it is inappropriate to claim that the measures themselves are language-specific. Similarly, while it is true that grammatical units such as clause and T-unit may be defined and operationalized differently across various L2s, it is inaccurate to regard the way these units are defined and operationalized as "subjective." Usually, these units are counted in an objective way according to a certain working definition of the target unit (e.g., Lu, 2011). In summary, the author should present the shortcomings of existing syntactic complexity measures more accurately. 2. As previously mentioned, a limitation of the existing studies is that they rely on those instruments that cannot be directly reused to analyze syntactic complexity in the writings of other L2s. Thus, it is assumed that this may not be the case for Kolmogorov complexity measures. It is suggested that there exists a tool that is capable of calculating the scores of Kolmogorov complexity measures for all L2s. Therefore, it is essential for the author to provide a detailed description of this tool or instrument in the manuscript. 3. p. 18 “Significance testing was performed for two complexity metrics: syntactic and morphological Complexity” Is there a specific reason to discard the overall complexity metric for the significance test? 4. I agree that Kolmogorov measures have their own merits compared to traditional complexity measures. However, it does not necessarily mean that these measures are perfect or universally applicable to all research on L2 complexity. For instance, in this study, Kolmogorov measures are used to investigate L1 influence on writing performance. The author concludes that there are "L1-based differences in the use of complex syntactic sentences in L2 writing (p. 35)." However, this finding may be too general. It is important to identify specific differences among the writings by students from different L1 backgrounds and determine to what extent those differences may be caused by linguistic differences in the L1s. These questions should be the primary focus of studies on L1 influence. Traditional measures, especially fine-grained measures, may be more likely to answer these questions than Kolmogorov measures. I am eager to see the author's justifications for this comment. Reviewer #2: This study examined the differences in Kolmogorov complexity between L2 proficiency levels across distinct languages and across different L1s. I think it is interesting and significant to consider the potential influence of L1 background on L2 writing complexity. However, I have some main concerns at both of the conceptual and methodological levels. Regarding RQ1, which aims to compare the differences in Kolmogorov complexity across different L2 proficiency levels (A1 and B1) in four languages (German, Italian, Czech, and English), I find the rationale for this comparison unclear. It is evident that there would be cross-linguistic differences in Kolmogorov complexity due to variations in language structures and features among the four languages. However, the significance of this comparison in the context of L2 proficiency development remains ambiguous. Additionally, I don’t see the rationale for discussing the cross-linguistics differences with the topics, settings, and writing genres uncontrolled. I suggest a clearer explanation of the rationale behind RQ1 and a more explicit description of the methodology to highlight the study’s significance. Moving on to RQ2, which explores the impact of L1 background on L2 English writing Kolmogorov complexity, I question the choice of using Kolmogorov complexity metrics instead of traditional syntactic complexity metrics. Given that English is the target language for RQ2, it seems more appropriate to utilize the traditional commonly used syntactic complexity metrics for this analysis. Furthermore, the discussion of L1 effects on L2 writing complexity lacks depth and fails to fully explore the potential implications of the findings based on the diverse L1 backgrounds examined. The methodology lacks details regarding the selection criteria for written essays, including topics, settings, and writing genres, which are crucial factors that could influence the observed differences in Kolmogorov complexity. I recommend a thorough discussion of the potential L1 effects based on the diverse L1 backgrounds and a clearer description of the essays selection process from the corpus. Additionally, I suggest updating the literature review to include recent studies on syntactic complexity validation that are relevant to the study's objectives. For example, Xu, T. S., Zhang, L. J., & Gaffney, J. S. (2023). A multidimensional approach to assessing the effects of task complexity on L2 students’ argumentative writing. Assessing Writing, 55, 100690, 1-16. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.asw.2022.100690 By incorporating these recent findings, the study can provide a more comprehensive review of the existing literature and strengthen its theoretical framework. Finally, in the conclusion, there is a need for expansion, as there appears to be a lack of discussion regarding the significance and implications of the study’s findings. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Peng Bi Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-24-00299R1Utility of Kolmogorov complexity measures: analysis of L2 groups and L1 backgroundsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Alzahrani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 01 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Lawrence Jun Zhang, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. 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Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Most of my comments have been addressed by the author. However, some minor issues still need to be considered. 1. Regarding the Method-corpus section, the author introduced the corpus as "...,whereas EFCAMDAT also involved persuasive texts (e.g., selling items in an online auction)." The statement is unclarified. I suggest further explain whether EFCAMDA exclusively comprised persuasive genre texts or if the author specifically selected persuasive texts from a diverse range of genres. 2. In the third paragraph of the Method-corpus section, the phrase "For MERLIN, only texts rated A1 and B1 were selected as the other CEFR levels were not equally represented across L2" should be revised for better understanding. 3. Also in the third paragraph of the Method-corpus part, the author mentioned “Since EFCAMDAT is semi-longitudinal (Shatz, 2020), texts written by the same L2 learner were removed to reduce idiosyncratic complexity features.” Could you further explain the removal of texts written by the same L2 learner? How to remove? To remove identical essays by individual writers or all essays produced by a single writer? 4. I still think it is necessary to include the traditional measures to account for L1 based differences (RQ2). However, I did not locate this point in the limitation section, which I think should be explicitly addressed in the manuscript. 5.Please carefully proofread the manuscript. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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