Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionAugust 29, 2023 |
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PONE-D-23-27033Effect of 3-D depth structure, element size, and area containing elements on total-element overestimation phenomenonPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Matsuda, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers appreciated your efforts in revising your manuscript, and they raise only a few remaining points that need clarification. Addressing all reviewer comments should be straightforward, and I look forward to recieveing your revised manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 08 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and 2. We note that the grant information you provided in the ‘Funding Information’ and ‘Financial Disclosure’ sections do not match. When you resubmit, please ensure that you provide the correct grant numbers for the awards you received for your study in the ‘Funding Information’ section. 3. We noted in your submission details that a portion of your manuscript may have been presented or published elsewhere. [Some of the data from this experiment have been submitted to a conference and have been peer-reviewed and published as an abstract. Since the publication consisted only of a 274-words abstract, it did not constitute a dual submission from our point of view. We hope you agree. We added a PDF with the respective Abstract as additional information. The citation would be: Matsuda Y, Shimono K, Aida S. Overestimation of the number of elements in a three-dimensional stimulus is dependent on the size of the area containing the elements. J Vis 2017;17(10): 151. doi: 10.1167/17.10.151] Please clarify whether this [conference proceeding or publication] was peer-reviewed and formally published. If this work was previously peer-reviewed and published, in the cover letter please provide the reason that this work does not constitute dual publication and should be included in the current manuscript. 4. We note that you have stated that you will provide repository information for your data at acceptance. Should your manuscript be accepted for publication, we will hold it until you provide the relevant accession numbers or DOIs necessary to access your data. If you wish to make changes to your Data Availability statement, please describe these changes in your cover letter and we will update your Data Availability statement to reflect the information you provide. 5. 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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In the last revision the authors wrote in their response letter that they conducted a baseline experiment for Experiment 1 -- 'The result of the baseline experiment showed that when 2-D stimuli were used as the standard and comparison, there was no numerosity overestimation for the standard stimulus'. Somehow I can't find the baseline experiment in the current manuscript -- it would be very helpful to include it in the paper. Other major questions are well answered. Reviewer #2: The authors have addressed almost all of my concerns. The manuscript is streamlined and clear. I have a few outstanding minor queries and suggestions that I hope the authors will take onboard. 1. Experiment 2-4: the various combinations (3 main-variable manipulations x 7 numerosities x 2 standard locations x 10 repetitions) should lead to 420 trials, but is stated as 210. Is that a typo or were the locations not balanced (but were randomly chosen instead)? 2. A central motivating factor for the study has been the discrepancy between earlier results (Bell et al. and Aida et al. – in relation to observing overestimation in a 3-D volume). However, this discrepancy is not resolved by the current study, since element size does not seem to matter, and in the current experiments, overestimation is observed at all tested numerosities and areas. The authors speculate that the difference might lie in duration (line 439 – 455). Obviously testing it directly would be the ideal way forward. But if that cannot be done, please move this paragraph and discuss it in the General Discussion, rather than tuck it away in the results of Experiment 2. 3. My apologies for not being clearer in my earlier comment about the ‘control’ experiment. I was merely pointing out the inadequacy of the previous ‘baseline’ experiment to rule out response bias – I did not mean to confuse novelty and response bias. To really rule out response bias, the ‘standard’ 2-D stimulus should have been made distinct in some way. If you still find overestimation for the standard, it means that participants are biased towards an ‘interesting’ or ‘novel’ stimulus. Given that all 3-D stimulus in this study lead to overestimation, it is important to rule out such a bias towards 3-D stimulus. Yes, the authors make a case for why response bias might not be plausible here, but I don’t find it fully persuasive (see below). a. The evidence for why response bias might have occurred can also be explained by response bias: The effect of disparity (stepwise 3-D) on overestimation can be explained by considering that the more depth that is observed, the more response bias there might be towards it. And perhaps it saturates at some point, hence there might not be much difference between clearly 3-D structures such as 2-POTS and 3-POTS with comparable disparities. In the current study, all manipulations lead to overestimation, indicating that such a bias cannot be ruled out. My suggestion was to do an experiment, with the same procedure, but instead of a 3-D structure, merely change the attributes of the standard stimulus elements. Thus, if participants have a bias towards a novel/interesting stimulus, they should pick that one too. 4. Line 785-787: Can the authors elaborate on why the disparity-processing model cannot account for the results of Experiments 3 and 4? There still remain several typos and grammatical errors. Please go through carefully and fix them. Here, I point out a couple that might make a substantial difference in interpretation: 1. Abstract: Line 35 should be: ‘while the number of overlapping stereo surfaces. 2. Line 604: 195 x alpha might be missing a term: all the others are in the form of a+b*alpha. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-23-27033R1Effect of 3-D depth structure, element size, and area containing elements on total-element overestimation phenomenonPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Matsuda, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewer points out one minor inconsistency that should be corrected. Once this is done, I will accept the paper without need for further re-review. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 03 2024 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: Thank you for conducting the control experiment. The results are convincing that there is no response bias towards one or the other stimulus. All my remaining concerns have been addressed. One final thing. Thanks for clarifying that there are 5 repetitions per location in Experiments 2-4. However, in Experiments 3 and 4, it is still noted as 10 repetitions. See lines 521-522 ["there were 210 trials (three areas × seven numbers of elements × two locations of the standard × ten repetitions)"] and 642-644 [" there were 210 trials (three sizes of areas × seven numbers of elements × two locations of the standard × ten repetitions) for each observer. This is *mathematically impossible*. If you include two locations, then please change # of repetitions to 5, or omit locations and retain 10 repetitions. Otherwise, you get 420 trials (3x7x2x10 = 420). ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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