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PONE-D-23-11371A combination of oxygenation and driving pressure can provide valuable information in predicting the risk of mortality in ARDS patients.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Chan, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 31 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please include captions for your Supporting Information files at the end of your manuscript, and update any in-text citations to match accordingly. Please see our Supporting Information guidelines for more information: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/supporting-information. Additional Editor Comments: Please revise. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Partly Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: A combination of oxygenation and driving pressure can provide valuable information in predicting the risk of mortality in ARDS patients. PONE-D-23-11371 This is a secondary analysis of prospectively collected data of a clinical audit, aiming to describe a cohort of ARDS patients. Obviously, so much effort and time was invested in this study that addresses an important topic in critical care. I would like to thank the authors for their submission, however, I have several comments and concerns: 1- The most important concern is that in several sections of the article you described oxygenation (P/F ratio) as an independent risk factor of mortality, and this was what you depended on to combine driving pressure and oxygenation in the Kaplan Meier curves. However, your results do not support that claim, P/F ratio was not significantly different between survivors and deceased (table 2) and it was not included in the logistic regression model. So, how did you reach the conclusion that it is an independent risk factor of mortality? 2- Abstract: you wrote (The objective of this study was to investigate the incidence and outcomes of ARDS): Actually what was described (370 ARDS / 1778 ventilated patients) is prevalence rather than incidence, because the patients already had ARDS, incidence is when patients newly develop the condition that they didn’t have before. 3- The total number of screened patients is 1788 in the abstract, but 1778 in the results. Please verify. 4- Abstract: For driving pressure, If OR is 1.10, then 1 cmH2O increase is associated with 10% (not 11%) increase in odds of death (not in mortality rate). 5- Introduction: The first 7 lines need references. 6- Method: Please define early in the method at least 1 primary objective and a few secondary ones. 7- Why is the age of adulthood considered as above 20 years? This is uncommon, is this the routine in your institute? 8- I have several comments about the statistical plan: a- Your analysis includes multiple testing and extensive analysis. So, please indicate whether or not correction for multiple testing was performed. If not, then you should indicate that the results should be interpreted with caution or that they are not conclusive. b- One way ANOVA compares means of continuous variables among 3 or more groups, so, how did you compare categorical variables between the 3 groups of ARDS severity? I assume Pearson’s Chi Square, but it should be mentioned. c- You wrote (Kaplan-Meier analysis was performed to test the mortality correlation of driving pressure). Kaplan Meier curves and Log Rank tests are not used to test correlation, they compare survival rates. d- The logistic regression model needs clarification: How were the included variables chosen? How did you build the multi-variable logistic regression model? Particularly since there were other variables that were significantly different between survivors and deceased (FiO2 - RR - PIP - Pplat - Compliance) that you left out? Usually, we either perform uni-variable logistic regression and then include any variable with p value < 0.1 or 0.15 in the multi-variable model. Alternatively, we may perform logistic regression with backward or forward elimination to retain variables in the model with p value < a predefined cutoff value (usually 0.1). I strongly advise you to consult a biostatistician. 9- Results: Frequently you use the description (paralleled to severity), while almost always numerically correct, sometimes this parallel change is not statistically significant (such as for driving pressure). Please differentiate when there is statistical significance and when there is not. 10- SOFA scores did not parallel severity, it was lower for severe ARDS on days 3 and 7. 11- Results: You wrote (There was no significant difference in age, gender, BMI, comorbidities, admission source, type of ICU, etiology,…..). Actually, type of ICU was significantly different. 12- Results: You wrote: (As oxygenation (P/F ratio) and respiratory mechanics (driving pressure) were both associated with mortality in ARDS). I commented on this before. There is no evidence that P/F ratio is associated with mortality in your results. 13- Discussion: In general, it needs to be shortened, and more focused. Do not astray from the main topic to involve issues such as DNR. 14- The results of the Kaplan Meier curves can’t be interpreted as predictors, accordingly, I don’t agree with your conclusion that combining driving pressure and oxygenation predicts outcome. This could have been true if that combined variable was incorporated in a predictive model (such as logistic regression). 15- LUNG SAFE is reference number 21 not 4. 16- There are other limitations, for example, the lack of information about pharmacological treatment, non-robust logistic regression model (unless you improve it). 17- For tables 1 and 2: Please indicate in the footnotes when t-test was used and when Mann Whitney was used. 18- Finally, please proofread the manuscript for minor errors of grammar and spelling. Reviewer #2: This looks a good article to see the prognostic factors in ARDS. Driving pressure has been studied extensively in recent years. I have a few suggestions 1. Abstract- Objective and title do not match. Diagnosis of 1788 patients in ICUs is not clear but explained in results. 2. Is it prospective or retrospective study? 3. About 85% have record of driving pressure but in table all 370 patient have been analyzed A few suggestions have been added in the manuscript. I hope you will consider. Reviewer #3: dear authors thank you for this valuable work, please take the following comments into your consideration. 1-in the introduction section: omit the word " non-pulmonatry " and rewrite the sentence (sepsis ,trauma ,....) 2-add references for the first and second paragraph of the introduction 3-it is written in the abstract section date was collected prospectively, while in the methods section it is written retrospectively? please explain 4-the same in the discussion section: you wrote the data was collected prospectively, please explain this 5-some results were repeated in the discussion section, this should be avoided. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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PONE-D-23-11371R1A combination of oxygenation and driving pressure can provide valuable information in predicting the risk of mortality in ARDS patients.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Chan, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please revise. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 17 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I would like to thank the authors for revising the manuscript. You adequately addressed most of my comments. 1- However, it seems that I didn’t make my first previous comment clear. I was not commenting on mortality of different ARDS severities. I was commenting on independent predictors of mortality in ARDS in general, which is the primary outcome of the study. So, when you say in the abstract: Page 5 & 6 (lines 85 – 87): Both oxygenation and driving pressure were independently associated with mortality in ARDS (p=0.014). You give the impression that each one separately is a predictor of mortality, which is not the case. According to table S5: It is the combined driving pressure and P/F ratio. So, please make it clear: driving pressure > 14 and P/F ratio ≤ 150 was an independent predictor of mortality (OR = 2.497(95% CI: 1.201-5.191); p = 0.014). 2- Table S5 is the same as table 3 in the manuscript, with the addition of 4 categories of different combinations of driving pressure and P/F ratio, so why not simply add those categories to table 2. 3- Page 17, lines 274-277: You still refer to results of Kaplan Meier curves and Log rank tests as (Mortality rates). It is Survival. 4- In the conclusion (page 23, lines 375, 376) you stated that CCI is an independent predictor of outcome, when it isn’t: OR = 1.072[95% CI: (0.985-1.166)]; p = 0.106 I think that your conclusion should be: Driving pressure alone, or in combination with P/F ratio are independent predictors of mortality. Reviewer #3: dear respectable authors thank you for your work and finalizing the recommended modifications. ********** 7. 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A combination of oxygenation and driving pressure can provide valuable information in predicting the risk of mortality in ARDS patients. PONE-D-23-11371R2 Dear Dr. Chan, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Robert Jeenchen Chen, MD, MPH Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for revising the manuscript, and addressing my concerns. The article has substantially improved. Congratulations. Reviewer #3: dear respectable authors thank you for your valuable work ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #3: Yes: Mohamed E Abuelnaga, MD ********** |
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PONE-D-23-11371R2 A combination of oxygenation and driving pressure can provide valuable information in predicting the risk of mortality in ARDS patients. Dear Dr. Chan: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at customercare@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Robert Jeenchen Chen Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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