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PONE-D-23-15283Repetitive sensorimotor mu-alpha phase-targeted afferent stimulation produces no phase-dependent plasticity related changes in somatosensory evoked potentials or sensory thresholdsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Bergmann, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers have shown interest in the results, while also raising serious technical concerns. Please revise the manuscript to provide clarity on the experimental design, the formulation of the hypothesis, and address the technical issues pointed out by the reviewers. Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 07 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Pillen et al report a study testing hypothesis that the sensory cortical mu-alpha rhythm, measured near somatosensory cortex with EEG, reflects fluctuating periods of plasticity in thalamocortical processing streams. Past work has shown mu/alpha phase varying excitability and plasticity in the motor cortex, using transcranial magnitic stimulation (TMS), and this conforms with known theta-phase dependent plasticity in the hippocampus. This study sought to test whether such findings generalize to sensory regions, and to bottom-up processing streams (i.e. thalamocortical inputs). The researchers stimulated subjects’ fingertips with peripheral electrodes in short gamma-bursts (100hz) at different phases of the simultaneously-recorded EEG mu/alpha rhythm (trough, peak, random) and tested how a) sensory evoked potentials (the N20/P25) and b) sensory thresholds changed pre-vs-post stimulation protocol (which lasted 40 minutes). Interestingly, none of the stimulation conditions lead to increased somatoensory evoked potentials (i.e. evoked brain responses to sensory stimulation — N20 or P25), and all three lead to increased sensory threshold, suggesting the absence of phase-dependent plasticity. Thus, the paper on the whole reports negative results. The study nevertheless appears to have been carried out carefully and to a high technical standard. As alternatives to a true null-hypothesis (that phase dependent plasticity does not exist in the bottom-up processing stream for somatosensation), they propose that either the stimulation procedure was inadequate OR that the dependent measures were insensitive. The discussion of these possibilities and the results in general is thoughtful and sound. I would therefore recommend publication after the authors address the following 1. Thalamocortical inputs in primary sensory regions (from primary thalamic nuclei) primarily synapse in deeper layer 4, while the EEG signals and maximal TMS effects (from past studies) might be biased toward layer 1 of the cortex, where inputs from other cortical regions and secondary thalamic nuclei synapse. Perhaps the differences seen in this study compared to past findings of m1 phase-dependent plasticity/excitability reflect not a difference between motor and sensory cortices, but between bottom-up/lay4 vs top-down/intracortical/lay1 synapses. 2. The consideration of stimulation-related caveats is thorough (7 distinct points) but the discussion of limitations in their recording/analysis of the SEPs and STNs is lacking. I can think of several potential caveats -- some of which can be added to the discussion, while some may be directly explored. -The mu-rhythm was measured using a surface laplacian montage. This would likely bias the recorded Mu to superficial layers, while the relevant mu-alpha should be strongest in granular layer 4 (thalamocortical recipient layer). It has been shown that cortical regions may display distinct alpha-band oscillations, differentially related to attention and memory retention, and with one being potentially thalamocortical and another being corticocortical (see reviews by Klimesch et al as well as e.g. Lopes Da Silva, 1980; Halgren et al. 2019; Sokoliuk et al 2019; Rodriguez-Larios et al eNeuro). These different processes may differ in both frequency and spatial distribution. Further, there may be distinct visual vs somatosensory mu/alpha rhythms, which could both present in all electrodes (separable mainly via ICA) and therefore may have biased/affected the researchers ability to select the relevant mu/alpha rhythm. The chosen 8-14Hz range for identifying individual mu-alpha rhythms in this paper is a broad band, and it’s possible that the researchers selected the wrong oscillation to stimulate with respect to. -Is it possible that the sensory threshold and SEP tests induced some plasticity, making it more difficult to identify plasticity effects? upwards of 300 stimuli were applied to each finger before the intervention even began. The authors consider that the intervention (of 400 stimulations per finger) were not strong enough relative to the pre/post tests of SEP/ST, but what if the pre/post tests themselves were too strong? -The ICA-component selection methods seem highly subjective “Only components containing SEP information (i.e., resembling a typical N20-P25 waveform and a corresponding topography) were kept”. A more common approach in the literature is to use ICA only to remove irrelevant components (blinks, eye movements, musculature tension, cardiac signal). Could this metholodogy for isolating N20/P25 wavefoms have been too restrictive, leading to the null result?” -On the other hand, because only the p20/p25 components were retained after the ICA, could the authors use a global-field power estimate of the ERP amplitude? this might be a more powerful/sensitive metric than simply using the same limited cluster of electrodes across all subjects. 3. Further, was the impedance of the finger electrodes tested before and after the intervention? 4. it is hard to discern different conditions in the line plots in figure 2A, although I understand that this is, to some degree, the point! nevertheless, please spread out the x-axis or make the lines thinner. 5. Authors should discuss the absence of a “no stimulation” or sham condition. 6. I may be confused, but the fact that some INCREASE in sensory threshold was found for all cases is interesting. This is a drop in sensitivity. It is difficult to make sense of this effect in light of their interpretation that their protocol should induce LTP but not induce LTD (which, it may have in all three cases). This effect was strong and clearly present in nearly all subjects (and was statistically significant). Could a change in stimulation electrode impedance/contact/etc account for it? Or changes in the tissue e.g. inflammation? Or perhaps changes in arousal could have lead to drops in skin conductance, which would alter the impact of the stimulating electrode. 7. Another potential explanation for the null results could have been that plasticity in synapses upstream from thalamocortical inputs to S1 masked, blunted, or compensated for thalamocortical plasticity (in a phase-dependent or independent manner). Indeed, as they point out in the discussion, a past study identified only plasticity for concurrent PES and direct cortical TMS stimulation, and this affected mainly the p25, interpreted as a layer 1 effect, while the n20 was not affected (interpreted as a lack of a thalamocortical effect). Reviewer #2: Thank you for the opportunity to review this manuscript. The experiment investigates whether (and how) sensorimotor mu-alpha phase alters cortical excitability in sensory cortex. The authors use state of the art real-time EEG phase prediction to trigger peripheral electrical stimulation timed to occur at different parts of the sensorimotor mu oscillation. The goal is to induce phase-dependent plasticity in thalamocortical synapses, as has been shown in corticospinal output from M1. However there were no differences observed between the peripheral pulses timed to occur in peak, trough or random phases. This is a negative study, however as outlined in the discussion, there are several key limitations to the experimental design that may have undermined the ability to draw any conclusions about the proposed relationship between phase and excitability. Most importantly, it is not clear that the phase estimated at C3 would be the same as phase overlying the sensorimotor cortex. As the authors mention, even a small difference in electrode placement and orientation can cause a significant shift in the measured oscillatory phase. This issue may mean that while the estimation is reliable at C3, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that SEPs delivered according to mu-alpha phase measured at C3 do not affect plasticity in nearby sensory cortex. All other limitations as discussed by the authors may also contribute to the negative findings. In addition, the choice to have the central pulse of a triplet at the target (i.e., have one pulse just before, one at target and one after target) may also play a role as some evidence suggests that rising or falling phase is important for long term potentiation, rather than peak or trough itself. Minor points: The channels listed in figure 2B overlap and are unreadable. The boxplots with 25-75% ranges within the violin plots are so small that they are unreadable in figure 2 and 3. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Jordan P. 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Repetitive sensorimotor mu-alpha phase-targeted afferent stimulation produces no phase-dependent plasticity related changes in somatosensory evoked potentials or sensory thresholds PONE-D-23-15283R1 Dear Dr. Bergmann, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. 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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have thoroughly and adequately responded to my concerns and adjusted their discussion accordingly. It is publishable in its current form. As a final note, I might be misunderstanding something, but I still might suspect that taking the global field power on the ICA-extracted p20/25 components -or taking some spatial composite or component score- might prove more powerful in estimating small changes in these ERPs than restricting to just a few electrodes, as a) ERPs are volume conducted anyway and typically extend scalp-wide and b) the ICA will apply spatial weights, such that some useful data can be gleaned from all electrodes in this case. That said, the methodology is clearly stated. As written, this paper will be useful in guiding future studies on what might and might not work. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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