Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 28, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-12461Paying attention to cardiac surgical risk: An interpretable machine learning approach using an uncertainty-aware attentive neural network.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Penny-Dimri, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 11 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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"Please amend your current ethics statement to address the following concerns: a) Did participants provide their written or verbal informed consent to participate in this study? b) If consent was verbal, please explain i) why written consent was not obtained, ii) how you documented participant consent, and iii) whether the ethics committees/IRB approved this consent procedure. 4. Thank you for stating the following in the Acknowledgments Section of your manuscript: "The ANZSCTS Cardiac Surgery Database Program is funded by the Department of Health (Victoria), the Clinical Excellence Commission (NSW), Queensland Health (QLD), and funding from individual cardiac surgical units participating in the registry. ANZSCTS Database Research activities are supported through a National Health and Medical Research Council Principal Research Fellowship (APP 1136372) and Program Grant (APP 1092642) awarded to C.M. Reid. 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The two major areas for improvement are the unclear description of the methods and the unclear significance/contribution of the paper to the existing knowledge. The writing also needs to be significantly improved in order to meet the publication standard. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: • There are many redundant sentences in the abstract, and the logic is also not clear enough. Please refine the content of the abstract again. Author need to make clear the research significance of the article, the research process, the experimental results and conclusions. • The keywords need to be extracted again, and it could be best to reflect the characteristics of this article. • The introduction of the article is complex and tedious about the modern approaches, so it is necessary to highlight the research status at home and abroad, and simplify the background of the article. • In this manuscript, the explanation of flow diagram in Figure 1 is not enough, and the author needs to give a more detailed explanation to facilitate the understanding of readers. • The analysis of the experimental data in Table 3 can be added to improve the uncertainty calibration calculation. • The conclusion of this manuscript needs to be reorganized by highlighting the research results of this research work, not too much introduction of future research methods. • There are grammatical errors in this article, which need to be corrected after careful checking. • Carefully check the references of the article and also ensure the citation is in the right place. • The objectives of your work need to be clearly stated in different sections. • Author needs to highlight the novelty of this research work in clear manner. Reviewer #2: The given manuscript by Penny-Dimri et al. highlights a relevant subject and presents a potentially beneficial and useful method. The results seem convincing. However, some issues need to be addressed before the manuscript can be published. Major issues (in decreasing order of importance): - The UAN approach should be described in detail, as this is not a commonly used method. Please provide details about the architecture, its internals and the training procedure. - In Tables 2 and 3, the best results are written in bold. Does that mean that they are simply the best or does that mean that the bold results are significantly better than other results? I strongly suggest to test for significance and to describe the employed statistical procedure in detail. - It is imperative (otherwise a bias is introduced that renders the results invalid) that the calibration/training of missing value imputation methods is only done on the training set(s). Was that the case in the third strategy mentioned in the manuscript? It did not become entirely clear. Please provide more detail! - Include more recent reference to works dealing with machine learning in cardiac surgery, e.g.: Bodenhofer et al., Eur. J. Cardiothorac. Surg. 60(6), 2021. https://doi.org/10.1093/ejcts/ezab219 Jiang et al., Front. Cardiovasc. Med. 8, 2021. https://doi.org/10.3389/fcvm.2021.771246 Shuhaiber & Conte, Eur. J. Cardiothorac. Surg. 60(6), 2021. https://doi.org/10.1093/ejcts/ezab324 Some of these works indeed demonstrate a general advantage of more complex methods over LR. - There are also some deeper works dealing with interpretations of machine learning models (some limited to tree ensembles, some model-agnostic), e.g.: Lundberg & Lee, NIPS 2017. https://papers.nips.cc/paper/2017/file/8a20a8621978632d76c43dfd28b67767-Paper.pdf Sharma et al., arXiv:2012.06734, 2020. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.06734.pdf Minor issues: - The figures have very poor resolutions. In particular, the heatmaps in Fig. 2 are illegible. Please fix this! ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-22-12461R1Paying attention to cardiac surgical risk: An interpretable machine learning approach using an uncertainty-aware attentive neural network.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Penny-Dimri, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 12 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Guangyu Tong Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments: Please carefully address the comments from Reviewer 2 and ensure the claim of this paper is not overstated and biased, as pointed out by Reviewer 2. I also recommend the authors perform the additional test Reviewer 2 requested. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: Most of my comments have properly been taken into account by the authors, so I can recommend the manuscript for publication now. There are two issues, however, that I still want to comment on: 1) I agree that significance of cross validation results are a subtle topic. I acknowledge that p-values might be inflated, so the tests might have a higher type I error rate. It is a fact, though, that such tests are still quite common in literature. Let me make this point clear: I was not so much afraid of insignificant differences being falsely flagged as significant. My concern would rather have been the following: If a result marked in bold would fail the test for significance, then it has no justification to be reported as a serious advancement. So I was rather afraid of falsely announcing an algorithm as better than the rest although it is actually on par with another. Apart from that, I have no doubt - looking at the numbers and the standard deviations in parentheses - that the significance test would be successful. So I suggest the authors either consider performing the test (despite its weaknesses and limitations) or provide a short argumentation in the manuscript why they have not done it (even though it is quite commeon). 2) Regarding the citations on machine learning in cardiac surgery that I suggested: I am not in the position to force the authors to cite particular papers, so I accept that they have not followed my suggestion. However, since they mention their own meta study (which has very much attracted my interest when it appeared), I want to take this opportunity to comment on this work in relation to the present manuscript under review. First of all, I pretty much disagree with their earlier meta-study. I think it deals with an ill-posed question. Nobody every claimed that ML gives a general edge over LR. I fully agree that there might be some situations in which LR is sufficient or even advisable (less overfitting, better interpretability). However, there might also be situations in which ML indeed is advantageous, in particular in situations with complex, non-linear interactions between the input features. I try not to be too polemic about this issue, but the meta-study appears to me like asking whether there is evidence that trucks are better than cars. Well, in many cases, no. But there are some case where the additional power and loading capacity of a truck is of great advantage. It depends on the situation. It is now really ironic/funny/whatever that the authors of exactly this meta-study try to get a paper about ML in cardical surgery published. No matter whether you cite your own meta-study, I think this asks for an explanation. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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Paying attention to cardiac surgical risk: An interpretable machine learning approach using an uncertainty-aware attentive neural network. PONE-D-22-12461R2 Dear Dr. Penny-Dimri, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Guangyu Tong Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: The authors have taken into account my comments properly (or have responded adequately). So I recommend this manuscript for publication. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No ********** |
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PONE-D-22-12461R2 Paying attention to cardiac surgical risk: An interpretable machine learning approach using an uncertainty-aware attentive neural network. Dear Dr. Penny-Dimri: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Guangyu Tong Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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