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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors contribute to the research on the function and context of the Sardinian nuraghi from a landscape perspective, using GIS-based methods (Cost Surface Analysis/CSA and Least-Cost Path Analysis/LCPA) and viewsheds to understand the possible role of these monuments for territorial control of the surrounding landscape. Movement through the landscape and towards the Giara of Gesturi plateau in southern Sardinia, which provides the setting for this case-study, is assessed with LCPA, CSA is used to assess accessibility and defensibility, while viewsheds address monument visibility as well as the possibility to control the surroundings. The study shows that contrary to former assumptions, the role of nuraghi in the cultural landscape of the Giara plateau (and hypothetically, also in other areas) appears to have been much more complex than simply allowing for the control of natural access and transit routes. The authors highlight the significance of the nuraghi’s visibility, especially by remotely moving people. They could not directly connect their results to advantages for a defensive/military use of the monuments (although they still assume that the latter played a role in their construction), and surprisingly, their results might in some cases even contradict any interest in movement control. Despite the naturally small spatial extent of the study, it should be an important contribution to the ongoing research of the still barely understood nuragic towers, which will help to evaluate results from upcoming landscape analyses in other regions with nuraghi on the island. The manuscript certainly delivers a well-defined approach, the execution is properly described and the questions asked are archaeologically relevant. Nonetheless, I still have some serious issues with the manuscript. The authors appear to stress a false dichotomy between what they call “intuitive” archaeology and apparently “superior” quantitative approaches and models, instead of highlighting the importance of combined methodologies for a meaningful examination of the archaeological records. This would be especially rewarding for the study of the Sardinian nuragic period, where scientific analyses and sound landscape analyses are still in their beginnings. However, the complexity of the contexts and materials require a multi-faceted research, including the “traditional” archaeological methods. While the original study appears to be sound (with the below mentioned major reservations), the English language is sometimes unclear and needs revision. I advise the authors work with a copyeditor to improve the flow and readability of the text. The fact that the research aims at an English speaking audience does not relativize the publications by Sardinian and other authors, especially since there are relevant papers available in English. The figures are generally good quality, readable, and illustrate the findings of the authors appropriately. The same is true for the supplementary materials. This supposed dichotomy affects the drawn conclusions from the nonetheless most interesting results from the case-study of nuraghi on the Giara plateau, where some obvious interpretative approaches, for example concerning the symbolic importance of the monuments, are largely ignored. Finally, this biased vision leads to partly inappropriate attacks, beyond justified criticism, against Sardinian scholars who are proficient in the field but hold divergent views on the applicability of particular modelling approaches. Instead of convincing arguments for the chosen methodology and its undisputed contribution to understanding the role and function of nuraghi as monuments that shape the Bronze Age landscape of the island, the authors use polemics (lines 299-319, 784-786) and selective quotations as well as a providing a selective bibliography. The latter has unfortunately become almost standard amongst some researchers studying nuragic Sardinia, however it has definitely to be considered bad scientific practice. The expedient discussion of relevant questions will be obstructed as long as disparate groups of scholars refuse to exchange arguments and evaluate the actual contributions of the respective “other” groups. The results and conclusions clearly show that there would be the potential to integrate the proposed landscape analysis with the knowledge and approaches that have been provided by the Sardinian scholars “under attack”. I will substantiate my criticism by summarizing each section of the manuscript: • The Abstract is well presented and provides a good overview of the aims, results and methods of this study. • The Introduction needs thorough revision: Firstly, an uncritical citation of Kristiansen’s “Third science Revolution” (lines 43-44) seems utterly unacceptable after the weighty criticism from paleo-geneticists and archaeologists alike, together with the expectable appropriation of Kristiansen’s assumptions by the far right. This indispensable criticism is summed up in World Archaeology, vol. 51, no. 4 (2019), especially in the editorial, in the contributions of Hakenbeck and Frieman & Hofmann, as well as by Martin Furholt (2018 & 2021). Furthermore, the aDNA data from nuragic Sardinia is far from comprehensive, and the ca. 15 or so samples from this period presented by Marcus et al. 2020 are rather to be seen as the basis of a yet to establish dataset, thus no assumptions should be based on this small glimpse on Sardinian paleo-genetics. The authors themselves admit that this “It is likely that this image (…) is somehow deceptive” (l. 46-47), so why claiming that the island “has emerged as one of the most conservative places in Europe” before there is sufficient information on this (l. 44-45)? Next, using Webster (1996) as a main reference for Nuragic Sardinia and adapting his chronology seems odd. This ignores relevant work by Sardinian scholars who know the record first hand as well as the established chronology by Lo Schiavo & Perra (2018). In the last paragraph, the scope of the research is adequately summarized. • §2 From Monuments to Nuragic Landscapes aims at providing an overview of Nuragic archaeology but unfortunately fails to do so by using the partly outdated and heavily debated work of Gary Webster as the main source. A more differentiated view and the inclusion of relevant, also contradicting, viewpoints of scholars working in Nuragic archaeology would be necessary to complete this contextualization. The random collection on papers (l. 109, bibliography 1,2, 7-21) refers to sometimes outdated research or papers dealing with particularly narrow topics and single sites, thus leaving Webster’s works the only actual overviews. Not even one of the general works of G. Lilliu on Nuragic Sardinia is included. Much work has been done in Sicily since Leighton’s “Sicily before history” and the archaeological record of Corsica has been boosted by recent comprehensive, high-quality research. The author’s statements (lines 112-114) can hardly be acceptable by scholars working on these islands. For the contextualization and connections between them and Sardinia, there are relevant, recent publications for example by Lo Schiavo, Peche-Quilichini, Araque Gonzalez, Fundoni and Miletti, to name but a few, of which the authors do not seem to be aware of. The bibliography on Giant’s tombs as well as on the sanctuaries is deficient and partly outdated. The marginally mentioned interpretations of social relations in Nuragic Sardinia (lines 119-121), restricted to G. Webster and a paper by M. Perra that is not even centred on this issue (although he has written extensively and proficiently on the case), ignoring the contradictory but relevant ideas of Tronchetti, Russu and Araque Gonzalez, without revealing the author’s ideas on the topic, must either be perceived as listless or uninformed. However, the nuraghi are almost always discussed in their social contexts, and consequently the latter should be considered in more than merely a single line. The symbolic aspects of the nuraghi (lines 168-173) are referred to with outdated literature and do not mention the most relevant tome “Simbolo di un Simbolo” by Campus & Leonelli (2012) or new approaches by Araque Gonzalez (2021). Regarding the latter, there is no short but poignant discussion on the construction process, its possible organization and its relevance for nuragic society. The confirmed uses of nuraghi, as illustrated for example by the results from excavations at nuraghe Arrubiu at Orroli, are also being ignored. The overall omission of citations of relevant work by archaeologists who disagree with Webster’s and other British scholar’s interpretations is conspicuous. This paragraph needs thorough revision to provide a serious contextualization of the monuments. • §3 Theoretical Issues and Landscape Approaches, sums up former landscape studies centred around the nuraghi and highlights the relevance of the author’s research. This is generally done in a comprehensive way, but it is evident that again, Sardinian scholars and their statement that rigid and abstract models are not always useful for the unique and complex nuragic landscape undergo heavy, sometimes polemic criticism (lines 208-232). The approach of the Spanish school of Granada is also criticized (lines 233-246). Finally, what is not clear to me is in how far the case study of nuraghi should be relevant for the interpretation of “Mediterranean societies” who did not build nuraghi. However, the evaluation of monument construction within prehistoric societies as a social event and collective action pointing against or towards hierarchizing processes would be relevant. This point needs clarification. The following explanation and discussion of the use of GIS (lines 256-298) is well informed and competent. However, in the second part of this section inadequate polemics and the invention of the term (Nuragic scholars’ empiricism) should be nuanced and brought forward in the form of fair, transparent criticism, including quotes and ideas and their deconstruction (lines 299-319). This is a serious problem I have with this manuscript. The promoted approach by the authors seems sound and I agree fully on its usefulness (lines 320-333). • §4 Study area: The Giara of Gesturi is well laid out and provides all relevant information. Figures 1 and 2 are reversed and their order has to be corrected. • §5 Methods and §6 GIS Analysis follow a clear structure and the approach (a basic GIS landscape approach) is well defined. A quote is needed in line 605 (which scholar assumes that visual control was directed towards specific areas?) and the link to bibliography online in line 500 is dead (or mistaken?). Quotes are needed for each specific criticism, otherwise it remains a blurred “opponent” that is targeted. • §7 Results is also well structured and provides interesting insights, for example that secluded location was more important than access and movement control (lines 660-661) and that visibility over the closest 100 m radius around the nuraghi is scarce (lines 668-669), which both contradict a military use, the latter would be quite tragic in case of a siege. In the case that actually visibility per se was more important than visual control, as it is stated (lines 672-674 and 691-695), it must be considered (but is not thoroughly so in the conclusions, unfortunately) that this hints towards a strong symbolic meaning and function of the nuraghi, beyond its obvious usefulness as landmark (line 697). • §8 Discussion and conclusions presents the intriguing results and the author’s (very cautious) interpretation. Although they did not find clear indicators of a defensive (military) use of the monuments (lines 748-750), they still do not want to exclude it, but they do not discuss the issue. I would suggest to explain why all these contradictions would still favour such an explanation of the monuments, except for the fact that Lilliu and Webster attributed a defensive function to nuraghi (lines 707-708; 763-764). Again citations are missing, for example in line 710 (“as postulated in the literature” – which?). the authors hint at a possible spatial relationship between nuraghi and the traditional pathways to the plateau – and here they seem to indicate that the denigrated “empirical2 archaeologists who have postulated this relationship were not all wrong. However, they do not mention this coincidence between both approaches. Unfortunately, they do not discuss the symbolic implications that the focus on visibility has (lines 728, 741-743). The authors interpretation of their findings unfortunately remains vague regarding their results (lines 763-768). I liked the transparency given by the authors by stating that their analysis remains preliminary and not fully contextual. They show that future work in landscape archaeology will be essential to clarify aspects of the nuraghi, however they come up with the mentioned false dichotomy again and (lines 778-782) and fail to acknowledge the potential of a combination of all knowledge. Some sentences could easily be erased from the manuscript because their only aim seems to be directly discrediting particular scholars (lines 784-786). I recommend publication after revising these major concerns. If the authors would nuance their criticism, summarize the actual positions of the researchers they rightfully want to criticize (with proper quotes) and provide concrete arguments, the paper would improve significantly. I strongly recommend them to re-think their own position and consider if their landscape approach would not be enhanced by combining it with the results from Sardinian field archaeologists and with theoretical approaches by researchers whom they ignored for now, and joint forces might finally shed more light on the still mysterious nuraghi and their functions and meanings. A bolder statement on the interpretation of the focus on visibility by remotely moving people would also be desirable, if the authors would like to provide one. Reviewer #2: The proposed contribution is of an excellent level, quite original, methodologically impeccable. The bibliography used is good and exhaustive. The work undoubtedly deserves publication. However, there are some observations that can improve the contribution: - In paragraph 2.1, as far as the Nuragic civilization is concerned, the authors speak only of the Bronze Age, while it would be appropriate to speak also of the I° Iron Age, as the authors do in other paragraphs. - The term "classical", used in the text to define the most recent nuraghes with rooms with a "tholos" vault, should, in our opinion, be used in parentheses, so as not to give the reader who is not an expert in Nuragic civilization the doubt that they are monuments belonging to the Greek and Roman classical age. - A paleo-geomorphological analysis of the investigated area is missing. In fact, over time, some areas may have undergone substantial changes; in fact, on the edges and slopes of the plateaus, we often witness landslides and mudslides. Even considering the importance attributed to the Scalas, i.e. the natural accesses to the plateau, a mention of this aspect would be useful, also to take it into account in the analyses. - Equally, it would be interesting to at least mention paleoenvironmental aspects. Are there archaeozoological studies or pedological and pollen analyzes for the investigated area? - The method of retrieving data is not well specified: the authors talk about the analysis of aerial photos, but in studies of this type the direct analysis of the monuments and possibly a systematic survey of the entire territory would also have been appropriate. Was it made? Why was it not considered appropriate to do so? - As also mentioned by the authors, we do not have a precise chronological location of the monuments considered by the analyses, as very few sites have been the object of archaeological excavations. This is important, because the type of analysis presented would preferably require having architectures of the same phase as objects. It would therefore be necessary to better explain the reasons for the choices made and how the authors think they have solved the problem. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I am very pleased to see that the authors addressed all comments, provided sound answers to each criticism and used the rationale behind them to significantly enhance this paper. My admittedly harsh criticism of what I considered polemic statements in the first version has been adressed and is now minimalized by mostly clearer wording and better contextualization. The term "nuragic scholar's empiricism" is in my opinion still a bit difficult and lines 299-319 seem still slightly polemic, however this might (hopefully) spark a fruitful discussion with the adressed scholars. I really appreciate the extended interesting discussion on the scalas (lines 369-386) as wel as the more profound discussion of results. The bibliography and English language have both been significantly impoved. Personally, i would not let stand Kristiansen on aDNA uncommented or without citing his critics, but this is the author's decision. I look forward to seeing this important and pioneering contribution to nuragic archaeology in print soon. Reviewer #2: The authors responded satisfactorily to the suggestions and questions. The requested improvements have been made in the text. For me the text is now publishable. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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