Peer Review History
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PONE-D-22-24405Learning effect on an isokinetic knee strength test protocol among male adolescent athletesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Manuel J. Coelho-e Silva, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Dear authors, I am sorry for the delay in making a decision regarding your article, I had a hard time finding appropriate reviewers. Both of the reviewers agreed that you need to introduce major changes prior to considering this article for publication. Please read carefully the comments provided below.All the best, Danica Janicijevic, academic editor ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 02 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Congratulations on a well organized study. Overall, I found the manuscript very interesting, and the study adds new information to this field. However, I would recommend obtaining help from an English-speaking colleague to review the text and make changes throughout (i.e. meanwhile instead of meantime) More specifically, here are further directed comments: Introduction: did not convey "why" it is important to test strength in this age group, or why this study is needed right now. lines 79-86: can combine as a range of examples in the literature, vs citing each individually. It takes too long to get to the point. lines 94-95: need more evidence to substanciate this affirmation Methods: line 113: describe the training of the observer (have they done this many times?) line 116: reconsider the format to express age, seems odd with two decimal points currently lines 143-144: not familiar if this is the standard method to correct for gravity with this device. please add reference. line 156: describe what would be considered an "atypical curve". Were there data removed in the final analysis? lines 160-161: is the sample sufficient to power a multi-level regression analysis? If not, reconsider inclusion. lines 168-171: if it was the intention to do a test-retest measurement, this should appear as a secondary goal at the end of the introduction line 171: "d-value"? Does this mean Cohen's d value? please specify Results: line 189: wording needs to be softer, i.e. regression results "suggest" these are important factors Table 3: add missing abbreviation explanations in the table notes line 255: please reword so that you state that this is a hypothesis or a speculation Discussion: lines 273-274: please reword. Lacks clarity. line 300-301: the comparison with your findings should appear much earlier in this paragraph. Needs rewriting. lines 311-312: please include description of this subsample -> do they represent the original sample well? General: Would you consider it relevant to compare relative strength results standardized by weight as well? The differences between repetitions may become more trivial statistically, but your main findings showing that an important group of participants only exhibit their maximal capacities in the last repetitions would remain true. Reviewer #2: PONE-D-22-24405 Learning effect on an isokinetic knee strength test protocol among male adolescent athletes Prof. Manuel J. Coelho-e-Silva PLOS ONE COMMENT The subject and results of presented study are of practical impotency for standardization of isokinetic dynamometer testing procedures. Invested effort for conducting and writing the paper is noticeable. However, some methodological corrections must be applied, as well as language improvements that are following almost the whole text, that should be revised and changed. I will address some of them with the following comments. It is important to notice that results are not fully presented in conjunction with tables and figures. The authors should include more information and use more clear language to present obtained results. COMMENT Page 4, lines (97 – 101): From methodologic point of view the hypotheses are missing, which is leading to later methodological problems. COMMENT Page 4, line 108: Specify participants characteristics in this section. Age of participance should be standardized through whole paper, I suggest as mean and standard deviation. COMMENT Page 5, line 115: Sample should go before procedures? COMMENT Page 5, line 125: The name of reference is missing in a text form? COMMENT Page 5, line 131: This should be subchapter Experimental procedures? COMMENT Page 7, line 168: Subsample of 17 swimmers is not mentioned in sample subchapter, what are the specific characteristic of this sample, are there differences between this subgroup and mane sample? Also in this case you have not precisely formulated the aim and hypothesize for determination of reliability of executed isokinetic test… COMMENT Page 7, line 171: Please specify what effect size measure have you used, Cohen’s d or some other? COMMENT Page 7, line 173: The Bland-Altman plot analysis is evaluating a bias between the mean differences, and to in your case estimate an agreement interval between repeated measurements. Suggestion is to correct differences into agreements. COMMENT Page 8, line (185): Table 1 should be separated into two tables, one with Descriptive morphological data (on chronological age, training experience, body size), and second one with isokinetic strength outputs. Also, Table 1 should have characteristics of subsample, or it can be in separated table. COMMENT Page 8, line 183: No need to repeat subjects characteristics. COMMENT Page 8, lines (220-228): It is very difficult the follow the description of results in correlation with figures and tables. Lines 220 – 224: The text should in subchapter that describes sample and procedures. Lines 227 – 228: What exactly several participants mean, how many of them exactly. This is not mentioned in discussion? COMMENT Page 11, lines (243-260): The authors should clarify the following section in correlation with presented hypotheses, aims, and results, to avoid confusion. The language should be revised to improve the readability. Line 246: This is not in correlation with previous mentioned sample age. COMMENT Page 13, lines (299-300): There is no need to repeat the protocol. COMMENT Pages 3-12: Reference should be added to the end of sentences in next lines: 74, 75, 78, 92, 94, 96, 274. COMMENT Pages 3-12: Better sentence formulation: lines 75 – 78, 86 – 90, 95 – 96, 97 – 101, 109 – 112, 161 – 164. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-22-24405R1Learning effect on an isokinetic knee strength test protocol among male adolescent athletesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Coelho-e-Silva, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== ACADEMIC EDITOR: Dear Authors, two experts in the field reviewed your revised manuscript version founding some minor points you should consider in the revision process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 29 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for editing this new version of your manuscript with careful consideration for the comments from both reviewers. This version is a very significant improvement for international readers. I would recommend further attention to the following comments for the next round: In general, try to decrease the length of your sentences to avoid syntax errors and to make reading easier to follow for your audience. - Objective 2: state as test-retest reliability for clarity. Current wording makes it harder to distinguish from first objective. - line 78: "meantime" should be "meanwhile" (as per round 1 comments) - although improved, paragraph 1 of the introduction still for me does not convey the importance of your main point: protocols differ between studies, sometimes 3 or 5 (or more). Validity of shorter protocols may be compromised if the peak torque is not obtained in the first three attempts. - lines 95 to 103: needs rewriting. The content is there, but syntax is not at the correct level - line 111: avoid using reference [15] about multiple sclerosis. This population has specific fatigue problems related to their neurological condition that cannot be compared with healthy youth swimmers - lines 119/120: sentence appears incomplete. add what the ICC values are? - lines 130/131: as previously mentioned, use term test-retest reliability for the international audience - lines 155/159: the sample size calculation here does not work. You are using the number of measurements instead of the number of participants. The sentence described is coherent to evaluate the sample needed to power the test-retest comparison. You also need to state what the expected difference (effect size) would be between groups to justify the sample size. - lines 159-164: good information, but should be moved to either the introduction or the discussion - line 183: use the term "height" instead of stature for international audience. Change in Table 1 as well - line 196: "strips" should be the word "straps" - line 210: how was the data filtered? - lines 214-215: this seems backwards. Would normally expect the raw data to be filtered to remove noise, then corrected for limb inertia, and then select only the data from the target speed (+/- 5%). Described as such, it seems you followed a different process. - line 229: define what you mean by "technical error of measurement" - lines 250-252: leave interpretation sentences for the discussion, does not belong in the Results - Table 1: much improved, good to see the information for both groups here - Table 2: must explain why there is not consistently the same number of participants for each rep? Is this related to the data processing question from lines 214-215? How do you explain that the ICC for KFcc is lower despite the values being more similar across the 5 repetitions? - lines 301/309: paragraph is not clear enough, needs to be rewritten - lines 311/313: link this information with your findings. it seems lost otherwise - line 339: i believe you are presenting your values, please make it explicit for the reader - lines 372/374: I appreciate that you considered my comment about relative strength measurements, but I would like you to confirm that you have proceeded with this calculation and confirmed that your statistical conclusions remain the same Reviewer #2: COMMENT Thank the authors for taking previous review advisees in preparing the presented study for publishing. Significant changes and improvements are noticeable. I will only suggest a few more corrections. The most important advice is to explain more about the differences between obtained results with the previous studies regarding both experimental questions. Father, to explain in more detail why the obtained mean difference and %CV between the first and second testing in KEcc and KEecc, is higher (is there a significant difference beside small ES)? Overall, the study has provided exciting and valuable data regarding standardizing the protocol of isokinetic testing of youth athletes. Some additional corrections and suggestions: COMMENTS Page 5, line 120: Can you please specify the range of ICC in previous studies, and type of motoric tasks or activity? Page 6, line 159: There is no need to repeat the number of subjects. Page 6-7, lines 159 - 164: This part should be in introduction. The number of the reference can be added to justify the sample size power. Page 7, line 172: Can you please define how many days past between testing days (mean)? Page 7, table 1: Suggestion - present as “mean±SD” instead “Mean Standard deviation” Page 8, line 183: Without “described elsewhere” in sentence. Page 8, line 184-185: A portable scale was used for measuring of body mass, please make the sentence clearer? ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Félix Croteau Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Learning effect on an isokinetic knee strength test protocol among male adolescent athletes PONE-D-22-24405R2 Dear Dr. Coelho-e-Silva, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. 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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I am fully satisfied with the modifications that you made on this final revision. This study will bring important knowledge to the field of isokinetic testing. Minor adjustments for publishing: line 93 in the introduction: change "probably" for "potentially". As per your results, many people still get their peak values in the early repetitions line 363: change "By obvious reasons" for "therefore" line 371: change "meantime" for "meanwhile" line 388: remove "probably" Reviewer #2: Thank the authors for taking previous review advisees in preparing the presented study for publishing. The study has provided exciting and valuable data regarding standardizing the protocol of isokinetic testing of youth athletes. I wish a lot of success in a future research work. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No **********
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PONE-D-22-24405R2 Learning effect on an isokinetic knee strength test protocol among male adolescent athletes Dear Dr. Coelho-e-Silva: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Prof. Emiliano Cè Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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