Response to reviewers for A double-pointed wooden throwing stick from Schöningen,
Germany: results and new insights from a multianalytical study
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and suggestions in turn below.
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Reviewer 1:
This paper is of great interest for the study of ancient wooden artefacts. It is well-written
and well-organized. The recent publication of a second short double pointed stick
on the site of Schoningen (Conard et al., 2020), including a full analysis, is pointing
out the lack of a complete study of the first artefact of this type found in 1994.
The present work is filling this gap, using microscopy CT to show in detail how the
discovered stick is a result of a careful human wood shaping, how its curve had been
slightly accentuated by working outside extremities, and how its has more probability
to have been used as a throwing stick. This last point being quite important in regards
of the functionality of the second shorter artefact found in 2011. Indeed, the present
studied wooden artefact, being longer, one could think that it could be more adapted
to be used for digging. ATR Infrared analysis, even if proved not successful in this
case, is also complementing nicely the morphological and usewear study and worth to
be reported.
Consequently, this article is worth to be published, but I think that two minor revisions
are needed for its publication:
1 Archaic throwing stick having weak streamlined section (circular or elliptic) are
mainly driven in their flight by initial throwing energy and by their mass, so this
last key parameter should be estimated in the analysis. Authors have well discussed
of the superior density of spruce wood at the period of manufacture compared to nowadays
and be able to propose a range of initial weight value with estimation of the artefact
volume by micro-CT, in relation with the actual weight of the preserved archaeological
artefact.
Thank you, this was a really good suggestion that adds to the interpretation of the
object. The actual mass of the object today, either before or after conservation is
not relevant, because it was first waterlogged and then conserved with additional
material. These processes affect the mass so much so that we do not provide these
data as they are not relevant and may even be misleading. However, estimating the
original mass makes a lot of sense. We have followed the reviewer’s suggestion and
calculated the volume of the object using the scans, and estimated the mass on the
basis of the upper density limits of modern day Norway spruce. This has been added
to the results as follows:
The total volume of the two fragments together equals 239 cm3. Depending on the growing
conditions such as climate, modern Norway spruce (Picea abies) can have air-dry density
values ranging from 0.232 g/cm3 to 0.588 g/cm3 and a mean value of 0.344 g/cm3 (n=368)
(63). Spruce growing in today’s modern temperate conditions tend to have wider annual
rings and lower density than the double-pointed stick. For example, a sample with
a mean annual ring width of 1.44 mm corresponded to an air-dry density of 0.460 g/cm3
(64). With annual rings considerably narrower on the double-pointed stick (mean =
0.2 mm), this would likely result in it having an higher density compared with modern
spruce (65). On the basis of the upper limit of modern spruce density and considering
the determined volume, we estimate the original mass of the tool to have been ca.
141 g.
We also added the method for this calculation to section 2.1:
The volume data of the two fragments were calculated from the 3D model using Artec
Studio 16 3D Software and Geomagic® Essentials.
2 I thinks authors should lower the estimated maximum range (50m) of the 1994 double
pointed stick used as a throwing stick (both in text and figure 18). Indeed, if the
reference (35) is reporting that throwing stick having circular and elliptic section
can potentially reach this distance, others important parameters as weight (see revision
1) and stabilisation from curvature, can drastically affect their maximum range. If
It’s true that it have been observed that Daassnatch throwing sticks can reach distance
over 100 m (Roach and Richmond, 2015), in that case the type of throwing sticks used
are more streamlined (elliptic to biconvex), highly stabilized by curvature (L shaped),
more asymmetric (conservation of inertia momentum by additional weight on proximal
blade), and probably made of a denser African wood than spruce tree. Additionally,
as an experienced thrower, I have already tested two close replica of Schoningen 1994
double pointed stick in spruce as throwing stick and reach distances between 27-30
m, depending of the throwing technique (average of multiple throws in different directions
relative to the wind). Consequently, in absence of throwing experiment included this
study, I strongly suggest to lower this maximum range estimation. The maximum range
need also to be distinguished from the useful hunting range which could be halved
(15m). Yet, these projectiles are very useful on small animals and birds at very short
range (i.e., Hopi people in Arizona were traditionally hunting rabbit between 6-10
m (Devereux, 1947). This can induce changes in the final discussion of the article
too.
Thank you for these thoughts and suggestion to lower the accuracy range. We actually
based this estimated range of 50 metres from the reviewer’s own work (Bordes 2014,
p. 58), which states that for elliptical cross-sections (translated):
‘It is a circular section from which material has been removed on two opposite sides.
It is therefore the most archaic profiling that can be found. The rotation speed is
improved by a stronger penetration in the air with this profile compared to the previous
one. Throwing sticks that are too narrow to develop a true biconvex profile may possess
this profile. The elliptical section can make it possible to produce throwing sticks
which reach a respectable distance which can exceed 50 meters, with a minimum removal
of material..’
However, we appreciate that the potential throwing distances rely upon more than just
the cross-section, also on length, mass etc.
In our ethnographic literature search we found little in the way of estimated distances
for throwing sticks of this size and morphology. There is also an absence of good
quality published data of throwing sticks of this kind with highly skilled throwers.
This has also been a major issue for throwing spears (javelins). Nevertheless, we
found that Noetling 1911 gives descriptions of Aboriginal Tasmanian throwing sticks
of similar morphometrics (but without the slight curve, which as we understand it
can improve distance based on Bordes’ work) with eyewitness accounts of throwing these
sticks described as follows: “It can be thrown with ease forty yards, and in its progress
through the air goes horizontally, describing the same kind of circular motion that
the boomerang does, with the like whirring noise.” 40 yards is equivalent to 37 metres.
This makes sense in terms of accuracy distances, as many accounts of Aboriginal Tasmanian
throwing spears record accuracy distances of >50 metres.
It is also important to add that in our own, and also in the Hrncir review paper that
has just been published, there are sources indicating the use of throwing sticks to
hunt larger game too, including reindeer, kangaroo, duiker, etc. Hunting such prey,
which are larger animals that are more difficult to approach, from 6-10 metres with
a throwing stick is not likely to be successful, suggesting longer hunting distances.
At least in the case of the kangaroo this would have been with sticks of a similar
design to the those from our site (e.g. Noetling 1911).
Given the reviewer’s account of experience throwing replicas (with the above caveats
noted), and the ethnographic observations of similar sticks thrown by Aboriginal Tasmanians,
we have reduced the distance estimates to 30 m in the text and Figure 18, and provided
further sources for these, alongside a discussion of these sources in the SI. We hope
this is an agreeable solution.
Manuscript:
Middle Pleistocene and early Late Pleistocene hominins are often characterised as
technologically limited by short-distance hunting technologies, with spears accurate
only between 5–10 m away (103–105). This model is challenged on the basis of ethnographic
and experimental data of throwing spear use, including using replicas of Schöningen
spears (36,38,41,106,107). The throwing sticks at Schöningen point further to the
use of medium distance hunting weapons. Determining accuracy distances of projectile
tools presents challenges, as distances will vary depending on the skill of the thrower,
throwing direction, size and behaviour of prey, landscape, and weapon design. Furthermore,
there are few experimental and ethnographic data on these tools. An experiment working
with Daasanach pastoralists demonstrated throwing distances of up to 110 m using bent
throwing sticks (108). Noetling (94) noted that Aboriginal Tasmanian throwing sticks
of similar morphometrics to the Schöningen sticks (but lacking a similar aerodynamic
curve) were thrown at distances of 37 m. Bordes (43) also notes that throwing sticks
with an elliptical cross-section, such as that seen on this double-pointed stick,
can exceed 50 m, although accuracy distances can vary depending on multiple morphometric
factors. Shorter distances of ca. 6–10 m for these tools to hunt small prey such as
rabbits are also recorded (109). Based on these ethnographic data, and prey behaviours
of larger herbivores such as those known to have been hunted at Schöningen, we propose
an estimated maximum accuracy distance for the Schöningen throwing sticks to be ca.
30 m (43,94) (Fig 18; See S1 Supporting Information, section 1.9 for further discussion
and sources).
And SI:
Estimates for the performance of prehistoric hunting weapons have been greatly bolstered
in recent years through performance experiments involving experienced weapon users,
reviews of ethnographic and ethnohistorical literature pertaining to similar weapon
systems, and new ethnographic studies aimed at addressing such questions. We acknowledge
that our data are limited, as contemporary experiences of Western hobbyists, athletes
and archaeologists are unlikely to provide accurately replicate weapon use by people
for whom subsistence technologies are socially embedded and learnt from early ages
(21,22), and for which communities rely upon these technologies for survival (see
also 23). Furthermore, ethnohistorical accounts were likely biased due to colonialist
objectives and perspectives, and the extent to which ethnographic analogy is a useful
tool for understanding the deep past is a matter of further concern (e.g. 24–26).
With these caveats of the limitations of experimental and ethnographic data in mind,
the following sources inform our diagram. For kinetic energy the following studies
provided either direct calculations or paired velocity and mass data (13,14,27,28).
The following studies provided experimental velocity data (13,14,27–29). Distance
estimates are informed by experimental studies (13–15,30) alongside ethnohistorical
and ethnographic accounts (31–41) and reviews (14 SI,19,42–44). Energies for wounding
prey by body are after Tomka (44).
Additionally, I suggest others corrections in text and figures:
Text:
Abstract:
Last sentence:
Please specify which type of throwing sticks are long long-distance projectiles ?
Artefact studied or other type ? Range overestimated. Please specify if you are speaking
about maximum range or hunting useful range.
In addition to reducing the maximum effective range throughout the paper, we have
made this change to abstract, and rewritten much of the abstract as follows:
The site of Schöningen (Germany), dated to ca. 300,000 years ago, yielded the earliest
large-scale record of humanly-made wooden tools. These include wooden spears and shorter
double-pointed sticks, discovered in association with herbivores that were hunted
and butchered along a lakeshore. Wooden tools have not been systematically analysed
to the same standard as other Palaeolithic technologies, such as lithic or bone tools.
Our multianalytical study includes micro-CT scanning, 3-dimensional microscopy, and
Fourier transform infrared spectroscopy, supporting a systematic technological and
taphonomic analysis, thus setting a new standard for wooden tool analysis. In illustrating
the biography of one of Schöningen’s double-pointed sticks, we demonstrate new human
behaviours for this time period, including sophisticated woodworking techniques. The
hominins selected a spruce branch which they then debarked and shaped into an aerodynamic
and ergonomic tool. They likely seasoned the wood to avoid cracking and warping. After
a long period of use, it was probably lost while hunting, and was then rapidly buried
in mud. Taphonomic alterations include damage from trampling, fungal attack, root
damage and compression. Through our detailed analysis we show that Middle Pleistocene
humans had a rich awareness of raw material properties, and possessed sophisticated
woodworking skills. Alongside new detailed morphometrics of the object, an ethnographic
review supports a primary function as a throwing stick for hunting, indicating potential
hunting strategies and social contexts including for communal hunts involving children.
The Schöningen throwing sticks may have been used to strategically disadvantage larger
ungulates, potentially from distances of up to 30 metres. They also demonstrate that
the hominins were technologically capable of capturing smaller fast prey and avian
fauna, a behaviour evidenced at contemporaneous Middle Pleistocene archaeological
sites.
Page 4 line 22:
Reference bug “Error! Reference source not found”. Same bug can found in multiple
occurrences further in the manuscript.
We have fixed this throughout (it was a linked reference to a Figure).
Page 17 discussion 4.1:
As wood density is one of the key factor for throwing stick performance, it would
have been nice to indicate a range of value for spruce and yew density (for low growing
tree in cold condition to fast growing tree in warmer conditions.
We added the upper limits of wood density for contemporary spruce in the section where
we estimate the mass. The nature of the growth rings are quite different however,
and modern growing spruce may be a poor analogue. We are not sure why it makes sense
to add density values for yew trees in this paper, as this wood is not present at
13 II-4. We have added a citation that does explore more the relationship between
wood densities and weapon performance (Milks 2022), but there are many caveats including
lack of clarity of densities of the wood used for the tools at Schöningen. For example
in the Keunecke et al. 2009 paper cited the ‘narrow growth ring’ spruce analysed had
a mean growth ring width of 1.4 mm, and a wood density of 0.463 g/cm3. The growth
rings of the object analysed here are on average 0.2 mm. This is substantially different.
It is a future aim to test possibilities of estimating the original wood density at
the site.
4.3 use and function, page 19, line 34:
I suggest: circular, elliptical or more streamlined profiles (i.e., biconvex, plano-convex)
We have made this change.
Page 20 line 26: I suggest replacing “morphology” by “characteristics” (morphology,
section, length (or wingspan), curvature and weight) as these factors influence their
performance.
We have changed ‘morphology’ to ‘characteristics’.
As already stressed in revision point 1, range of 50 m is overestimated, taking in
account all characteristic or need to be fully justified according any experimental
throwing data for the Schoningen double pointed stick studied here.
As described above, we have explained where our original distance estimate originated
from. We have provided further distance data for a similarly designed throwing stick
(Aboriginal Tasmanian), and added in discussion of various caveats. In addition to
the text as changed in the abstract and discussion, and estimates altered in Figure
18, clarifying what we mean for the site vs. for the weapon category as a whole, we
have added further data for Figure 18 in the SI, in a new section.
Figures:
Figures 5, 7, 9, 11: lacking scale, please add them
We have added scales to these figures.
Figure 8: Could have been interesting to combine this figure with the dotted limit
of the tree branch (both in plan and section) given at the bottom of figure 4 to show
clearly the removed wood part to accentuate curvature at the extremity. Removal of
wood outside the curvature near extremity and inside the elbow is observed among manufacture
of Australian throwing stick, see (Bordes, 2019). Additionally, that figure cloud
may be be adjusted bigger to better visualization of CT sections.
We have followed the latter suggestion and made the CT sections more visible at a
higher resolution. The reader can compare these two figures (Figure 4 and Figure 8).
Figure 18: I think that this type of diagram is may be too generalist, and don’t take
in account the variety of weapon in a given class. So I’m not sure that it is useful
to provide it in this article. The efficient hunting range for throwing stick will
be highly dependent of the type considered (which have evolved during the whole Pleistocene).
The same thing is true for the spear thrower dependent of the type of spear propelled
as a light fast reed spear won’t go a the same distance and won’t have the same energy
as a heavy long spear used to bring down a kangaroo in Australia. If you want to keep
this figure anyway, please indicate in the right part if the weapon range indicated
on this diagram are hunting efficient or maximum distance.
As far as we are aware, there are no good quality published experiments on accuracy
rates for given distances of throwing sticks. As stated above, we have added further
references, adjusted the maximum accuracy distance down to 30 m and made amendments
in the text. We favour keeping the image for two reasons. First, it includes the throwing
stick as an important Pleistocene technology, one that is absent in similar illustrations
(e.g. Iovita et al. 2014; Stodiek 1991; Milks 2018). Second, it helps make another
important point that the Schöningen hominins possessed projected tools, not just hand-held
thrusting and stabbing tools. The functional purpose of such throwing sticks is important
to illustrate. We state in the caption that these are estimates, and cite the sources
for these estimates. It is also clear in the figure that these are considered as maximum,
although that could change with further experimental data.
The kinetic energy is calculated based on experimental data from Roach & Richmond
(as cited). Although the Schöningen throwing sticks may or may not have been lighter
(as we state in our mass estimate, it is full of caveats including the inability to
accurately estimate the original wood density), lighter projectiles can be thrown
at higher velocities, which has an exponential effect on kinetic energy. Until recent
spear throwing experiments demonstrated otherwise (Milks et al. 2019; Coppe et al.)
it was also thought that throwing spears, including the Schöningen spears were also
‘low velocity’ weapons. For now we will keep the maximum KE estimates as they are
based upon experimental throwing, recording velocity with a radar gun. As such they
are indeed lower than maximum KE for spears, but not be a whole lot, because of increased
velocities. It should be clear in Fig 18 now that this for the category as a whole,
not just at Schöningen.
Suggested additional bibliography:
Bordes, L. (2019). X-Ray Tomography and Infrared Spectrometry for the Analysis of
Throwing Sticks & Boomerangs. Journal EXARC - Experimental Archaeology, 3
Devereux, G. (1946). La chasse collective au lapin chez les Hopi, Oraibi, Arizona
. Journal de la Société des Américanistes de Paris, 33, pp. 63-90.
Roach, N. T. & Richmond, B.G. (2015). Clavicle length, throwing performance and the
reconstruction of the Homo erectus shoulder. Journal of Human Evolution, 80, pp. 107-113.
Thank you for these additional references. The Roach and Richmond paper was already
included as a citation, we have further included it in the caption data for Figure
18 and explanation thereof in the SI. We have added the Devereux paper amidst the
discussion of throwing distances (as discussed above).
We have also added Bordes 2019 in relation to straightening the stick in the discussion
(4.2).
Deliberate removal of material in order to maximise or minimise curvature is also
evidenced on ethnographic throwing sticks using X-Ray Tomography (77).
Additional points from the pdf:
Reviewer: Luc Bordes
Provide more detail of morphological description (maybe in Supplementary material)
We have made this change:
Morphological descriptions, further details of which are found in S1 Supplementary
Information, follow Bordes (43).
And in the SI:
1.7 Morphological description
Morphological descriptions of the throwing stick follow methods and terms in Bordes
(19). Specific to this object include morphological classification on the basis of
profile (e.g. circular, oval, elliptical), type and symmetry of form (e.g. straight
shape, curved shape with enlarged head, crescent), and end type (e.g. pointed, bevelled,
rounded).
Which are these phases?
Later you explain the phases are described in a table, include here this comment and
the reference to the table
As we explain the phases later, we thought it clearer to just make the following alteration
here:
All traces were mapped onto a digital drawing of the double-pointed stick.
And as a result of this reviewer’s comment we also realised that the phases should
be briefly explained in the main text, not just in the Supplementary Information,
so in the section 2.5 we made this alteration to clarify each phase:
The cultural biography of the artefact is explored through five phases from raw material
sourcing (Phase 0), manufacture (Phase 1), use, maintenance and discard (Phase 2),
taphonomy (Phase 3), and excavation and post-excavation (Phase 4) (see Table S3 in
S1 Supporting Information for a more detailed description of each phase).
Which points? The extremes?
Yes, we meant the two extremities, and have clarified as follows:
The two extremities are designated as Point 1 and Point 2 (Figure 1).
In the next paragraph there is a similar sentence
We have deleted the first sentence and kept the second.
You suggested that bark was preserved for a period of time after removing the branch
of the trunk, clarify how you recognize the bark was pulled fresh or after drying.
Thank you, we realise this was unclear. We have clarified that it is the presence
of the oblique cut marks that likely reflects cutting into the bark to remove it in
strips.
The tool is fully debarked, with no outer bark, inner bark or cambium (Fig 10). A
series of striations oriented obliquely to the shaft have profiles and lengths (ca.
5 mm to 15 mm) consistent with cut marks (Figs 11 and 12; Table S5 in S1 Supporting
Information). These cut marks likely facilitated the debarking process, allowing the
toolmaker to cut into the bark and pull it off in strips when relatively fresh. The
longest cut mark is arc-shaped and is over 50 mm long (View A2–A3 from 14.5 cm to
19.5 cm; Fig S7 in S1 Supporting Information). Micro-analyses show this mark has fibre
deformation and a profile consistent with an angled cut with a sharp tool edge (Fig
12). In general the 3D microscopy demonstrates morphometric variability (Table S9
in S1 Supporting Information; S3 Dataset). Organised groups of longitudinal parallel
and sub-parallel striations are likely scraping marks (Fig 13) to remove any remaining
bark tissue, and to regularise the surface of the tool.
We have also amended the text to reflect that the marks suggest that the piece was
debarked and shaped first, and any seasoning occurred after this step.
An absence of significant surface or internal drying cracks suggests the wood dried
slowly and evenly. Cut wood loses its natural moisture until it is in equilibrium
with the surrounding environment, and if freshly cut and debarked wood is allowed
to dry too quickly it can develop significant cracks and can also warp (53). Seasoning
to remove moisture at a uniform rate can be accomplished in different ways, including
allowing a branch or trunk to dry slowly with the bark attached, storing the wood
in such a way as to allow uniform air circulation, storing it with worked wood chips,
or over a fire to dry the wood.
Which one? add some more information on tree species present in the surroundings
We have added the following information to the background section, including further
references (also in response to reviewer 2):
Tree species previously evidenced in the Spear Horizon include pine (Pinus), with
dropping levels of birch (Betula), and very few alder (Alnus), willow (Salix), juniper
(Juniperus) and spruce/larch (Picea / Larix) (16,19–21). Spruce pollen is sparse in
the profile, and is thought to have originated from a significant distance to the
lakeshore (19,20).
And in Section 4.1
The double-pointed stick was manufactured using spruce (Picea sp.) (see also 2). The
use of spruce is in keeping with the wider sample of worked wood from the find horizon
(13-II 4b and 4c). Ongoing species idenfication the wood material by one of the authors
(M.S.) as part of the current research project demonstrates that in this same find
horizon hominins also exploited pine (Pinus sylvestris) and larch (Larix), alongside
a background presence of willow (Salix) and/or poplar (Populus), species which do
not show signs of human modification. According to palynological analyses, spruce
did not belong to the natural background vegetation at the site and the raw material
was introduced by hominins (16,19,20).
Difficult to stablish the distance from the pollen data.
We agree, this is difficult to know for certain, we use the term ‘may have’ to show
we are not definitely sure. The suggestion of the mountainous region is not about
distance per se but rather that it is in these conditions where such slow growing
wood could be found. We have amended the sentence with a relevant citation of such
growing conditions to reflect this. We have further added references, including from
the 2023 paper by Urban et al. in support of this argument that potentially some wood
could have originated from the closer Elm hills, but likely farther distance (See
also Urban et al. 2023), for example the Harz Mountains.
For spruce, narrower annual rings can result from growth in poorer conditions, including
high altitudes (e.g. 64). One region where wood with such narrow rings could have
been sourced was the forests of the neighbouring Elm hills, or the Harz Mountains
approximately 40 km distance.
Reviewer #2:
The paper presents the result of original research on a significant example of a wooden
throwing stick from one of the most outstanding middle Pleistocene archaeological
sites. The study uses cutting-edge methodology applied to unravel the biography of
the object. Taking into account the underrepresentation of works dealing with prehistoric
wood artefacts the methodology applied could be a referent for the study of similar
artefacts. The work proposes a standardized protocol to carry out the study of wood
artefacts very useful for undertaking future works.
The results reported here have not been published previously.
The paper is well structured and written, the methodology is clearly detailed in the
supplementary materials and the results are well presented. Data availability is assured,
it is provided as supplementary materials. Discussion of data is clearly performed
and the data support the final conclusions. Conclusions are very relevant and provide
new insight into hunting strategies and woodworking in the Middle Pleistocene.
See some minor comments in the text.
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Additional points from PDF Reviewer 2
The work of Bigga 2018 (Bigga, G., Die Pflanzen von Schöningen, Heidelberg: Propylaeum,
2020 (Forschungen zur Urgeschichte aus dem Tagebau Schöningen, Band 3) is not cited
here.
These sentences right at the start reference only primary publications of discoveries
of wooden artefacts (or in the case of the Shigir Idol, the redating and reanalysis
which re-dated it to the Late Glacial). In that context Bigga’s PhD which looked more
broadly at the plant remains at Schoningen, is not referenced here as it was Hartmut
Thieme who discovered the wooden artefacts at Schöningen. However, we are pleased
to add this citation, and Bigga’s JHE article in an extension of a sentence a few
paragraphs later. Her work was also already represented, but has also been now added
elsewhere in the paper.
Subsequent excavations of sediment sequence 4 (Schöningen 13 II-4) yielded faunal
remains including butchered animals and flint artefacts (2), while exceptional botanical
preservation shows the extent of plant materials available to the Schöningen hominins
for technological, subsistence and medicinal purposes (15,16).
In addition to Kolfschoten 2015, another detailed study is by Voormolen 2008 (Voormolen,
B. Ancient hunters, Modern Butchers: Schöningen 13 II-4, a Killbutchery Site Dating
from the Northwest European Lower Palaeolithic. University of Leiden; 2008).
Yes, good idea, we have now cited that, as well as his published version in Journal
of Taphonomy.
Correct: Homotherium (Look Lit- 21.)
We corrected this.
In addition or alternatively to 24 you can also cite: Serangeli J, Conard NJ. The
behavioral and cultural stratigraphic contexts of the lithic assemblages from Schöningen.
J Hum Evol. 2015, 89: 287-297.
We have added this citation.
It should be “double-pointed“, as done in the rest of the manuscript.
We have fixed the instance where it was not hyphenated.
Check size: Thieme 2008 reports 4.7 cm at Page 144, Tab. 4.
4.7 cm is what we already had in the text. Schoch et al. 2015 is the best up to date
information on the spear measurements. The sentence reflects that these are previously
published data.
The complete spears are double-pointed, and published data with previous measurement
techniques report them as being between ca. 184 cm and ca. 253 cm in length and between
ca. 2.3 cm and 4.7 cm in maximum diameter (8).
Sector 2 is not described in the text.
It is located ca. 16 metres away from the nearest spear, spear nr. I
In this sentence you can also cite 7 (Conard et al. 2020), at place or in addition
to 16 (Böhner et al.2015) because this precedes the discovery of the second throwing
stick.
We have made all three of these changes, the sentence now reads:
It was the only wooden artefact in square meter x 684/ y 31, is located 16 metres
away from the nearest spears (Fig 3) and ca. 120 m from the second double-pointed
stick (square meter x 772/ y -49) (8,18).
You should revise this sentence because Conard et al 2020 did not use terms like shorter
thrusting or stabbing weapon, digging stick, bark peeler, or children’s spear. Conard
et al 2020, supported the artefact was a throwing stick.
Some of these functions are discussed in Conard et al. (some are dismissed, others
are acknowledged to be difficult to rule out). We have amended these sentences as
follows to reflect clearly which additional/alternative functions have been suggested
in which papers, rather than putting references all together at the end of the sentence.
We added a few references of examples that support an interpretation of a primary
function as a throwing stick.
Both of the short double-pointed tools, measuring under 1 metre, have various functional
interpretations, but are most often viewed as ‘throwing sticks’ (2,8,41–43). The artefact
analysed here is hypothesised to have potential additional or alternative functions
including as a short thrusting or stabbing weapon (2), a digging stick (7), a bark
peeler (44), or a child’s spear (7).
Figure 3: The North arrow must be adjusted. Compare with your Fig. 2 of the paper.
Look also Bigga 2018, Page 170, Abb. 54 c.
Thank you for pointing out this discrepancy, which was due to excavation grid orientation
vs magnetic north. This has been fixed.
Avoid pre-interpretation: eliminate manufacturing from this sentence.
We have removed this word.
Werner Schoch (in Thieme, 1997) first determined this wood as picea sp. It should
be nice to mention that your determination confirmed the previous one.
We have not made a change here, as this is methods and it would not be the right place
for this citation. The appropriate acknowledgement was already in the results section,
3.1:
The double-pointed stick was manufactured using spruce (Picea sp.) (see also 2).
(We have now added ‘see also’ just before the reference number to make this point
even clearer.)
We also added the citation of both Thieme 1997 and Schoch et al. 2015 in the introduction
mentioning that most of the tools were made from spruce.
This statement should be also referred to literature. By Urban et al. 2015 in 4 b
(c), page 67 “Pinus increases, Betula drops, very few Alnus, Salix, Juniperus, Picea
(Larix).
Populus is not in 4b or 4c but in 4f.
Bigga et al 2015 as well Schoch et al 2015 did not mention Populous.
This is a misunderstanding of data from previous research vs. the current project.
We recognise that this was unclear, and have amended the sentences to reflect this.
In the current project, one of the authors (M.S.) has been conducting microscopic
analyses of all of the wood from the find horizon, including the background wood.
These findings will be published in greater detail in subsequent publications, but
for now we can clarify that in 13-II 4, including for 4b and 4c, the findings are
that there is a presence of Salix and/or Populus. A microscopic distinction of willow
and poplar is based only on the shape of the edge cells of the rays. When dealing
with young branch wood, no distinction can be made with heterogeneous edge cells which
are normally typical of willow. Because the sample consists mostly of branch wood,
and/or the condition of the samples does not allow any further differentiation, most
of the natural 13 II-4 woods examined so far has been classified as Salix / Populus.
To be cautious, we have clarified that this indicates willow and/or poplar. The presence
of willow/poplar has been confirmed in this ongoing analysis in layers 4b and 4c,
even though it was not mentioned in Bigga et al. 2015 or Schoch et al. 2015. This
new information will be published in more detail in forthcoming publications. We have
now added a few sentences about the previous work regarding the tree species in the
background to the site section 1.1:
Tree species previously evidenced in the Spear Horizon include pine (Pinus), with
dropping levels of birch (Betula), and very few alder (Alnus), willow (Salix), juniper
(Juniperus) and spruce/larch (Picea / Larix) (16,19–21). Spruce pollen is sparse in
the profile, and is thought to have originated from a significant distance to the
lakeshore (19,20).
We have also amended the relevant section in 4.1 accordingly:
The double-pointed stick was manufactured using spruce (Picea sp.) (see also 2). The
use of spruce is in keeping with the wider sample of worked wood from the find horizon
(13-II 4b and 4c). Ongoing analysis of the wood material by one of the authors (M.S.)
as part of the current research project demonstrates that in this same find horizon
hominins also exploited pine (Pinus sylvestris) and larch (Larix), alongside a background
presence of willow (Salix) and/or poplar (Populus), species which do not show signs
of human modification.
Insert closing bracket “ ) “
We have made this change
The scale below the throwing stick and that of the sections are markedly different.
Insert scale of the sections.
Thank you, we have made this change, the CT sections now have their own appropriate
scale. Furthermore, the CT slices are now of a better resolution.
Figure 11: Misse scale?
Many thanks for spotting this. We have added a scale to Figure 11.
Both throwing sticks, as well the burnt wooden artifact are located in similar context
as the spears. Do you conclude therefore that all the spears were probably not discarded
due to damage but lost during use? Bigga 2018, 165-166 proposes hypotheses about the
storage of the wood artefacts.
Good point, we should discuss the discard here. The research on the wider collection
is ongoing, and the results of this wider context in terms of discard etc the spears
and other wooden artefacts will follow in subsequent publications. This paper is only
addressing the double-pointed stick. They are located in a similar context to spears,
but at some distance away. We are certainly considering all the scenarios, including
storage of wood and tools at the lakeshore for the wider collection, and will include
that also in future publications. We added this sentence to 3.3, citing Bigga’s idea
of storage at the end.
The location of the double-pointed stick at some distance from other wooden tools,
as well as its completeness upon discard suggests that it was lost along the lakeshore
during use rather than discarded due to breakage or cached for future use (15).
In Section 4.3 we write:
There is a possibility that hominins cached weapons along the lakeshore, proposed
previously for Schöningen (15). Such a strategy was also suggested for archaeological
remains of spears and boomerangs at the Holocene site of Wyrie Swamp (Australia) (86).
However, due to its location at some distance from other wooden tools, and the negative
impact that moisture from wet storage would have on the integrity of the wood itself,
we think this unlikely. Taking into account the tool’s completeness, we conclude that
the tool was also probably not discarded due to damage, but rather was lost during
use.
It’s not necessary to put “H.” for Homo, if you use Homo on side 20 and 21
We changed H. to Homo
Until now, the discussion was in “4.3 Use and function” “short stabbing tool“, or
may be “child’s weapon”. There is a change to the evidences for “the original interpretation
that this artefact functioned as a throwing stick“ …
An additional and important argument is the comparison with the second throwing stick
from the ‘Spear Horizon South’, as written at the beginning of the paper: “Although
it was the first significant find, it remained an anomaly until a second stick of
similar size and shape was recently discovered in new excavations of the ‘Spear Horizon
South’ (7).”
Such a reference here would help to understand, why you speak of 2 throwing sticks
from now on.
“Both double-pointed sticks from Schöningen fit within these ranges.” And later “The
two throwing sticks from Schöningen present …“
We are not certain we understand the reviewer’s points here, but we think the request
is to reference both sticks at the start of the paragraph. We have made the following
change to that sentence, including adding the reference to Conard’s paper.
Several lines of evidence further support the original interpretation that this artefact,
as well as the second shorter double-pointed stick, functioned as throwing sticks
(2,8).
A function as a throwing stick does not rule out a function as a child’s weapon, as
is already in the text on the previous page. Ethnographically, children use throwing
sticks, these can be tools that illustrate wider community involvement in hunting.
We added this further in a subsequent paragraph:
The two throwing sticks from Schöningen present a fascinating addition to the Middle
Pleistocene toolkit, with new potentials in terms of hunting strategies, prey selection,
and communal involvement in hunting including by children.
Page 5 “at least ten spears“ + 2 throwing sticks = 12
We have made this change.
In addition to those responses to reviewer comments above, we made some further changes
to improve the manuscript and supplementary information. We changed the title, as
‘Perfectly shaped’ suggested the tool reflected an evolutionary peak in design, which
it does not. In addition:
• We merged the two fragments to make a single 3D model, and have uploaded it to the
NLD’s Sketchfab account. We have added the link in the manuscript and the SI.
Manuscript:
This can be best viewed on the 3D model, which can be accessed using the following
link: Schöningen 13 II double pointed stick - 3D model by Denkmalatlas Niedersachsen
(@denkmalatlas) [b3f2f12] (sketchfab.com)
SI:
The two fragments were merged using Blender. The model can be viewed and accessed
using the following link:
Schöningen 13 II double pointed stick - 3D model by Denkmalatlas Niedersachsen (@denkmalatlas)
[b3f2f12] (sketchfab.com)
• We added some further ethnographic information from both our own review and that
of a recently published review of clubs and throwing sticks.
Ethnographically, throwing sticks were used in various scenarios including in interpersonal
violence, to kill pests, in self-defence against dangerous animals including snakes,
and for hunting birds, small mammals, marsupials, and larger herbivores including
duiker, reindeer and kangaroo (see S4 Dataset for sources; see also 91 for an additional
review). The multifunctionality of throwing sticks as clubs and stabbing weapons is
also discussed elsewhere (92–94).
• Figure 14 has been replaced with clearer example of a stop mark.
• We expanded section 3.3 to reflect observations mentioned in the abstract and discussion,
but elaborated upon in this section.
• A table for Phase 2 was missing in the SI, and we have added this.
• We had a further discussion about excavation damage to Point 2, and after consultation
with pre-conservation images, we have decided that we are not convinced this is excavation
damage, as the colour pre-conservation of this point and the surrounding wood is similar.
Therefore we removed the first sentence of the results of excavation/post-excavation
damage:
The find was discovered during a rescue excavation, and minor damage may have removed
the tip of Point 2 (Fig 9).
• We added all of the data files as supplementary files to make them directly available
with the article
• We added a perspective image as a supplementary file (S1 Fig.) which shows a different
view of the artefact.
• We added the links for the 3D model
• We added a new section to the SI detailing the sources for estimates, and going
a bit more in depth into explanations for these estimates.
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