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PONE-D-22-22925Morphological characteristics convey social status signals in captive tree sparrows (Passer montanus)PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sung, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. As one of the reviewers pointed out, your study was done during the early breeding season when these birds usually do not live in groups. You need to refer to this issue in the method section and elaborate on its possible implications in the discussion. I fully agree with the first reviewer that a temporal axis should be included in the data analysis to test if and how familiarity with other individuals influences the results. As pointed out by the second reviewer, it is not clear if the stress of being captured and transferred to an aviary influences the number or type of aggressive behaviors. It would be best if you referred to this possibility in the discussion. In addition, you do not refer to similar studies done under field conditions. I find it hard to believe that there are no such studies, but if this is the case, clearly say it. Finally, make sure that your paper is well-edited (see comments by both reviewers). Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 06 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Intro Line 40: “flocks” implies birds, but the authors make a point of saying “social animals”. Either say social animals and groups or flocks and birds. 41: “individuals’” implies multiple individuals. But the authors say “the” individuals’, which is a bit confusing. Maybe omit the “the” 43: Here you say “food resources”, whereas in the previous sentence (and in the abstract), the authors refer to food as “forage”. Be consistant. 53: do you really want to put “loser” and the citation in the same set of parentheses? 56: “several”? Perhaps you should say that hierarchies have been demonstrated in various bird species. The way it is currently stated implies that these are the only species that hierarchies exist in. 56: You say “social species”. Is that necessary? Can a dominance hierarchy exist in a non-social species? 61: comma splice. Perhaps it would be better to have a semi-colon followed by “flock members….” 65: is it necessary to say “reproductive fitness”? I’m assuming you are distinguishing it from “physical fitness”? 66: here you use the term “fitness” without qualifier – is it necessary to in the previous line? 73-74: you say “certain morphological traits” and then “larger or more colourful patches”. Arent the latter examples of the former? And aren’t all of them social status signals? 74: need a comma before social status signals 76: maybe say “birds often exhibit….” Or “individuals often exhibit….” 82: maybe say “with” instead of “and” And maybe “sporting” or “exhibiting” rather than “with” later in the sentence 88: “are commonly occurred”?? Huh? 90: reword “compete for protecting territories”. Maybe “often compete against individuals from other groups in order to protect their territories. However, such competition can differ between breeding…” 92: not “were occurred”. Maybe say “were observed” 92: use past tense (influenced) 93-94: A bit confusing. Maybe “However, the role played by group selection in such circumstances in unclear.” 95: Have you introduced this species already in the Introduction? If not, provide scientific name. 95: what is meant by “a typical social bird”? I suggest dropping that and just saying “is a social sparrow and is widely ….” 96: should this be “from the end of the breeding season through winter”? 99: comma splice. Avoid. (“, and”) 117, 119: What is meant by “wing length”? Wing chord? Also, how exactly is body length measured? 120: Is it necessary to say “digital photographs were taken with a digital camera”? Can you not just say “photographs were taken with a digital camera”? Or better yet, avoid passive voice and say “We photographed …. using a digital camera….”. Of course, I’m not sure what the editorial policy of PLOS One is re passive voice. 126: Are you sure that your colour markings on the tail (or the colourbands) had no effect on agonistic outcomes? A la Nancy Burley? 129: I’m getting lots of passive voice in the Methods, so I’m assuming it’s preferred. 131: nope, here it says “we installed” 133: you mention that the aviary contains a water dish, but you don’t mention a food dish (and in the next sentence you mention that water and food were provided ad libitum. 135: vitamin-rich corn? That kind of implies that neither the millet nor mealworms were vitamin rich. I’m assuming it was cracked corn (vs. whole corn kernals). Perhaps say “vitamin-enriched cracked corn” 138: recordings were made during the breeding season? This seems unusual given that the birds probably aren’t living in flocks during the breeding season. Nor can we assume their behavior is unaffected by the fact that it is the breeding season. This is a big potential problem. 138: I don’t think it’s necessary to say that individuals were identified by their applied colour markings (since you had just finished describing the color markings in the previous paragraph). Also, the word “markings” implies that the bands provided no identification use, which I assume is incorrect. Behavioural Analyses 141: “on” the feeding plate? Only? It seems likely that some interactions took place “beside” the plate rather than just on the plate. You ignored those? 146: you mention unambiguous displacement. But what did you do when it was not unambiguous. You should probably say that you omitted/ignored displacements that were ambiguous. 147: “comprising the total number”? Is that the word you want? Statistical Analyses 168: use plural of “test” Or say a Mann-Whitney test and a Kruskall-Wallis test 173: “bill-nose” length? You didn’t mention this in the Methods. I’ve never heard of “bill-nose length”. What is the “nose” of a bird anyway? What about body length (which, frankly, I’ve also never heard of). Results 185: The fact that males engaged in more aggressive behaviors during the breeding season is not terribly surprising. Recrudesence of the gonads is occurring at this time, so presumably testosterone levels are elevated in males. I worry that keeping the birds in an aviary during the breeding season (or at least the onset of the breeding season) is more than a little problematic. 189: I’m a little confused by the “to” in “male-to-male” etc. This implies that there was always an aggressor? You implied already that only unambiguous outcomes were recorded. How did you score it if the aggressor LOST? Can you have an X to Y dyad if Y won and X lost? Even if X was the aggressor? 191: How much of this aggression could be explained by the fact that the birds in each locale might have already been familiar with one another. How long did you allow the birds in the aviary to habituate before you started collecting data? Also, I would assume that 60 km is not enough distance for any genetic differences between populations to have an effect. Discussion 236: comma splice (, and they established….) I’m struck by your use of the word “established”. By definition, one should observe more threats and fewer attacks as a dominance hierarchy is established. In other words, there should be a strong temporal component involved. But I don’t recall anything about you reporting a decrease in attacks over time. I feel that this is a potential problem. 243: another comma splice 275: again, it depends on the amount of time the individuals had to get to know one another. I would suspect that after a month, flock of origin might not matter anymore. 282: unclear what is meant by “more conspicuous characteristics”. 300: fighting ability depends on fitness? Are you referring to “reproductive fitness” here? Or physical condition? 315: you are saying that individuals from the two sites were unfamiliar with one another. That may be the case during the first week, but I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that the birds did not know each other well by the end of the experiment. 326: Here you say bill length rather than bill-nose length. Also, I notice that in the Methods (line 117), you refer to the bill as the beak. Be consistent. And, as I mentioned earlier, there is certainly no mention of noses in the Methods. Reviewer #2: This is a well-constructed paper with a straightforward study. Study design and conclusions are explained clearly. Behavioural studies are not my area of expertise, so I’m not sure if additional data should be included as supplementary information (eg. More details on the study design/data collection protocols?), but I was surprised at how little data was reported/shared. Some caveats/limitations should be discussed; eg. Does the stress of being captured and transferred to an aviary influence the number/type of aggressive behaviours? Have there been studies like this done in the wild? Other than that, I only have minor editorial comments; a few grammatical errors should be attended to, and make sure to refer to all tables in the text (table 1 is not mentioned in the text). - 43: “mobbing of potential predators. However…” should be new sentence - 47-48: remove “such as”, “and through social status signalling” to “or through…” - 52: “due to” should be “through”, remove “thus” - 60: agonistic instead of agnostic? - 63: can you specify what kinds of ornaments? Maybe ‘cranial ornaments’? - 84-87: I would put these sentences together – “(status signalling trait), and individuals with large badges..” - 88: “…are commonly occurred for occupying several resources” is an awkward grammar. Are you trying to say “conflict between groups commonly occurs when the individuals/groups occupy several resources”? Or “conflict between groups occurs for the occupation of several resources”? - 90: often compete to protect territories from other groups, but this varies between breeding and non-breeding seasons - 91-92: “were occurred” should be changed to “occurs” - 93-94: this question is confusing; if it is intergroup conflict, doesn’t that mean that it is happening at the group level? If this is referring to group fitness vs individual fitness, perhaps clarify this - 102: “not unambiguously supported” is awkward phrasing because it’s a double negative, so its unclear what this sentence means. Rephrase - 106: remove “so far” - 108: remove “using video footage”; presumably this is explained in the methods section; change “and we distinguished” to “do distinguish” - 144: is it possible to describe threat displays a little more? E.g, distracting movements, flexing feathers, jumping etc. - 159: might be good to show the equations for w and w2 as well, since the lines before the equation mention P, i, and j, but none of these are present in the equation shown - 181: add the word ‘total’ before ‘aggressive behaviours’ to emphasize that attacks and threat displays are types of aggressive behaviours - 187: add the numbers of aggressive encounters between male-female, male-male, and female-female dyads in brackets, or refer to the table with this data (table 1) - 233: I would start the discussion with a bigger picture overview of the significance of this study and the results. Eg. Something about why it is interesting to study aggressive interactions in birds. Its possible you don’t need this first discussion paragraph at all, and can start with the second paragraph - 309: signals of what during threat displays? Signals of dominance or high-status? - 320: explain what fission-fusion groups are ********** 6. 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