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| Original SubmissionNovember 23, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-32292Marker for kidney fibrosis is associated with inflammation and deterioration of kidney function in people with type 2 diabetes and microalbuminuriaPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Poulsen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 04 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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I would appreciate a statement in the paper clearly indicating that you would be happy to share all data, as required by the journal, but unfortunately are prevented from doing so by the restrictive Danish laws that you are forced to follow (or a similar statement). [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. 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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The study by Poulsen et al., focusses on the association between a circulating fibrosis marker and progression of T2D kidney disease and the inflammatory state of these T2D patients. This is an interesting study but that would benefit from some improvements. - As the reader might not be familiar with the transformation of collagen 3 into C3M and what is exactly measured with the ELISA, a figure explaining this would be very helpful (the size of C3M fragment measured, see comment below, is not clear as well). - The definition of CKD progression was based on >30% decline of eGFR compared to baseline. It would be desirable that this >30% decline was based on repeated creatinine measurements, or is this already the case? -The uC3M story is not fully clear. uC3M is not mentioned in Table 1, but it is detected in urine as shown in Suppl figure 1. Since C3M is apparently a cleavage fragment and stable (since detected in serum) one would expect a circulating peptide to be filtered by the kidney and then found in urine. Do the authors have any explanation here? - The last section of the results very briefly describes the interaction of sC3M with the inflammation markers. Since there is a quite strong correlation with those inflammatory markers and sC3M, what about the predictive value on CKD progression of CVD of those individual markers? It would be very interesting to compare the predictive value of those individual markers with sC3M. This is especially important since the authors claim that sC3M would be a potential marker of progression CKD and therefore its added value should be shown and compared to those inflammation markers. - Related to this, even if after adjustment with inflammation markers sC3M remained associated to outcome, is combination of one or more of those markers (logistic regression, SVMs, random Forrest, etc…) improving the predictive value of progression to CKD or CVD events over sC3M alone? - The strong association to “endothelial inflammation” of sC3M and the absence to predict CVD is surprising, this is not discussed. Reviewer #2: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to review this research manuscript. The authors aimed to study the association of serum and urinary C3M (a matrix metalloproteinase-9-mediated degradation product of collagen type III) with progression of chronic kidney disease. They additionally examined the association of markers of systemic inflammation and endothelial dysfunction in relation to C3M. The authors documented that chronic kidney disease progression associates with high levels of serum C3M – urinary C3M was not associated. Please, find below some important statistical and methodological considerations: Major comments: - The median follow-up was six years and the creatinine was collected annually, which means patients would have an average of six creatinine measures. Considering this, using a categorical variable excludes important information about the progression of chronic kidney disease. From a clinical perspective, I understand that it makes more sense to show Cox proportional modeling because readers are more familiar with it. Nevertheless, the authors should include the rich information they have about the progression of kidney disease based on repeated creatinine measures. Therefore, I would strongly recommend they conduct and report mixed models. Just as an example, by running mixed modeling, authors could express the following estimates: kidney function decrease -0.2 mg/dL per 2-standard deviation (SD) in the sC3M. Moreover, if they estimate the difference change divided by follow-up time (progression rate), they could express the following: kidney function decrease -0.2 mg/dL per year per each 2-SD increment in the sC3M... It has a different interpretation (estimates) than Cox proportional models, but still, those estimates are clinically meaningful and from a statistical perspective, considering the outcome as a continuous repeated variable provides more accurate information than dividing into a categorical outcome. - I believe the authors should focus the manuscript on the progression of kidney disease and cardiovascular (CV) diseases as outcomes should be considered as competing risk. The CV outcomes are not part of the authors' hypothesis (which seems they are trying to test different hypotheses making the manuscript more difficult to digest). As they wrote in their introduction about why investigating CV outcomes, this is a pure statistical issue called "competing risk". As this is a predictive study, authors should treat CV disease and mortality as potential competing risks for the progression of kidney disease. That is, because these are high-risk patients, they can potentially die or suffer CV events (competing risk) before they develop the event (progression of kidney disease). Please, see the following paper which might help the authors to address their hypothesis and redefine their statistical approach: “Noordzij M. et al. (2013). When do we need competing risks methods for survival analysis in nephrology?. Nephrology Dialysis Transplantation, 28(11), 2670-2677.” Therefore, they should document the sub-hazard ratios for progression of kidney disease by adjusting models for total mortality and CV deaths as competing risk. - If the authors divided uC3M levels by urinary creatinine levels, and then estimated glomerular filtration rate (GRF) based on serum creatinine levels, should not the division affect the authors analysis? I understand the biological reasoning, but there is a statistical consideration about this. Can the authors perform the analysis for uC3M without this adjustment/standardization by serum creatinine levels? - Figure 1, can the authors indicate the cutoff points for the t1, t2, and t3? Moreover, authors should standardize figure 1 by age (tertile groups, or two groups based on the mean age) and sex groups. Another alternative is to standardized the incidence curve for the average population of con founders (see example). Otherwise, these are crude analysis. Can the authors also provide the same curve for uC3M? I understand that it would not be significant, but the utility of Figure one does not only rely on reporting the absolute risk for progression of chronic kidney disease but also to facilitate readers quick results of the study. Minor comments: - Can the authors specify how much is the SD doubling in the log-transformed C3M? - Table 2, can the authors provide the 95% CI? - There is no documentation of how urinary C3M was measured. Similar to sC3M? - Change title of table 3. - There is an extra decimal in the last estimate of table 3. - Why not include BP treatment as confounder. - Specify follow-up in time in the abstract. - How many creatinine measures were collected? - Supplemental figure 1 can be placed in the manuscript. I believe it is a main (additional) finding that sC3M and uC3M were not correlated. Moreover, it is just one item as supplemental information [it can also be described in the results section as: “sC3M and uC3M were not correlated (P value >x.xxx, data not shown) ….]. On the other hand, a potential supplemental table is to replicate table 1 but for uC3M. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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Marker for kidney fibrosis is associated with inflammation and deterioration of kidney function in people with type 2 diabetes and microalbuminuria PONE-D-22-32292R1 Dear Dr. Poulsen, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Harald Mischak Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I would like to thank the authors for the excellent and clear revision. I do not have further comments on the manuscript. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** |
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