Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionAugust 28, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-24020Human Scent Signature on Cartridge Case Survives Gun Being Fired: A Preliminary Study on a Potential of Scent residues as an Identification ToolPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Ladislavova, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Please be sure to make all supporting data available. The differences between the laboratory conditions of the reported experiments verses realistic forensic conditions should be discussed. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 21 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The submitted manuscript reports a study on the survival of human scent on fired gun cartridges, and on the possibility to identify the shooter based on the GCxGC-MS analysis of scent residues samples and that of standard samples obtained under laboratory conditions using a similarity analysis of an adequate scent representation. The authors claim that though contaminated by the gun, the scent survives to a great extent and enables individual identification. General comments 1) The conclusion should acknowledge that the scent survival on the cartridges is obtained after a procedure that is closer to laboratory conditions than to a realistic forensic context, namely 5 minutes of hand rubbing to activate the sebaceous glands of the subjects and 10 minutes of rubbing the cartridges. 2) The choice of a scent representation as a selection of peak area ratios is perfectly justified (among others by Curran’s studies and results), as well as choosing them according to their rate of occurrence and stability across samples. However, it is not clearly described how the number of ratios is selected using cross-validation on “PCA models”, nor what exactly is meant by a “PCA model” (e.g. a model defined by a number of principal components). Without further information, the selection procedure is not replicable. 3) Two scent representations are established, a first one using the scent residue samples, and a second one using the standard samples. It is not clear which of the two was used to match the fired cartridge samples with the standard ones using the similarity analyses on the set of subjects used to establish these representations. Also, why not test both representations, and also consider a representation based on both standard and scent residue samples. 4) The fact that, for the final comparison on a new set of subjects, the representation based on standard samples does not at all enable to match the fired cartridge samples with the standard ones whereas the representation based on scent residues does when using Spearman’s similarity measure would be better interpretable if a) the same comparison had been made on the subjects used to establish the representations, and b) both representations were given (the identity of the ratios is provided in the supporting information only the representation based on the scent residues). 5) The absence of section numbering and many errors in the references to the figures make the manuscript very difficult to read. 6) The manuscript would benefit from being proofread by a native English speaker. Specific comments • p. 6, line 120, “all n detected peaks”. What is the value of n? • p. 6, line 129, “the N number of peak area ratios with the least standard deviation (sorted in ascending order) through all samples were included in further calculations”. 1) Is it an intrasubject standard deviation? 2) How is N determined? • p. 6, line 131, “the incidence rate threshold was established”. 1) How ? 2) why is a second incidence rate threshold needed (the first one being 75% for each subject)? • p. 6, line 134, “in the presented PCA models”. What PCA models? Figures 3 and 5 display score plots on the two first principal components, and the captions the percentage of the variance explained by the first 7 principal components. What is relevant to the selection? • p. 7, line 138: why is normality tested for? • p. 7, line 140: “PCA [14] was applied as a model-based method”. If the authors mean that they evaluate the performance as the percentage of variance explained by the m first components, this should be stated (with the value of m). The selection of N and of the incidence rate threshold should be clarified here. • p. 9, line 198: Figure 3 instead of 2. • p. 11, line 230: Figure 5 instead of 4. • p. 11, Fig. 5 caption: “Model with 50 ratios with least SD and with equal or less that 75% zero value for each ratio through the standard and fired samples (57 ratios in total) using leave-one out validation”: 1) how can 50 selected ratios become 57? 2) Since this model is based on the standard samples, why is the occurrence rate through standard AND fired samples? • p. 11, section “Similarity analysis of fired cartridge samples versus standard scent samples”: which one of the two models is used, that based on the scent residue samples, or that based on the standard samples? The text does not tell, nor does the diagram of Figure 2. • p. 13, line 276: “The model 75_50 () performed with the same results for Pearson’s correlation, cosine similarity and Kendall’s tau.” What results? How to they compare to Spearman’s? Especially the cosine similarity whose performance is very close to Spearman’s according to Table E.1. • p. 13, line 278, “The Spearman’s correlation reached a 100% success rate”: it is true, when looking what standard scent sample best matches a given fired cartridge sample, but not conversely (vol. 4 is matched with vol. 6). ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-22-24020R1Human Scent Signature on Cartridge Case Survives Gun Being Fired: A Preliminary Study on a Potential of Scent residues as an Identification ToolPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Ladislavova, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 05 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Lyons, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments: Please reply completely and in detail to the reviewer's requests. The reviewer believes that many of their requests were not addressed in the first revision. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In their response to reviewers, the authors do not answer the reviewer’s main comments. There is still no section numbering. The notations for the parameters and models are still unclear. The answers to the detailed comments are often in contradistinction with the corrections made in the revised manuscript, and/or not self-contained or still not precise enough. See the answers to my first two comments for example: • p. 6, line 120, “all n detected peaks”. What is the value of n? Answer in the response to the reviewers : “The argument 'all n detected peaks' was rewritten to 'all 75 selected peaks'.” Answer in the revised manuscript : n vanished, we read on p. 6 lines 132-134: “After data alignment via RIs, all detected peaks were inspected, and the subset of 101 selected chemical compounds presented in standard and fired sample datasets was created and further processed.” 'all 75 selected peaks' appears nowhere. • p. 6, line 129, “the N number of peak area ratios with the least standard deviation (sorted in ascending order) through all samples were included in further calculations”. 1) Is it an intrasubject standard deviation? 2) How is N determined? Answer in the response to the reviewers : 1) Yes, is the intrasubject SD 2) N is a parameter chosen by the scientist responsible for the experiment. The value can be set as an integer (rigid count of SDs from each subset will be chosen), or SD value threshold can be set (then the number of the SDs will most likely vary among the subsets). We have chosen the first approach, because we found the second approach more viable for normally distributed dataset. The comment was added to the body of the article [lines 157- 160] Lines 157 to 160 the revised manuscript: Information about the (non)normality of the distribution was important for the correct estimation of the parameter N value and an evaluation of the results from the similarity standard deviation threshold value, but this approach was not suitable for non-normal distributed data. Therefore, an approach of setting the rigid count of the peak area ratios with the least standard deviation was prioritized. Two different statistical approaches were used for the following data analyzes: Principal Component Analysis and similarity comparison method. Principal Component. Analysis (PCA) [14] was used solely as a visualization of possible trends in data variance and as a tool for parameter optimization – models with higher percentage of variance explained for 7 principal components were considered as more reliable. Different sets of zero-value filters (incidence rate threshold) and number of characteristic ratios (N – see section Data processing) were tested. So is the percentage of variance explained by the with 7 PC of a PCA model used to select the value of N? If yes, why 7? What configurations of N and of the two incidence rate ratios were tested? Furthermore, some corrections/additions in the revised manuscript raise more questions than they provide clarifications. For example: • p. 7, lines 147-148: “This threshold was also estimated and optimized.” This isolated sentence is added without any reference to the section where the optimization takes place. Etc. This is not a proper revision. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Human Scent Signature on Cartridge Case Survives Gun Being Fired: A Preliminary Study on a Potential of Scent residues as an Identification Tool PONE-D-22-24020R2 Dear Dr. Ladislavova, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, James R. Lyons, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-22-24020R2 Human Scent Signature on Cartridge Case Survives Gun Being Fired: A Preliminary Study on a Potential of Scent Residues as an Identification Tool Dear Dr. Ladislavova: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. James R. Lyons Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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