Peer Review History
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PONE-D-22-28377Influence of different data-averaging methods on preoperative risk assessment using cardiopulmonary exercise testing in patients scheduled for colorectal surgeryPLOS ONE Dear Dr. franssen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 23 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Interesting substudy of an approved study. appropriately conducted analysis A few points to address : The authors write as if assuming a degree of precision to interpretation, and hard differentation into low or high risk categories which isn`t typical of real life practice . The authors have referenced the Rose “Grey Zone” paper Rose GA, Davies RG, Davison GW, Adams RA, Williams IM, Lewis MH, et al. The 434 cardiopulmonary exercise test grey zone; optimising fitness stratification by application of critical 435 difference. Br J Anaesth. 2018;120(6):1187-94 …which makes this point well . The authors of the current study similarly make it clear in their conclusion that any apparent differences in values due to averaging are not clinically relevant . Important that they convey this clearly in the abstract Patients are generally not classified in a binary fashion as either high or low risk based on whether they are above or below strictly defined single threshold limits / Overall summary of risk tends to be a composite assessment taking into account many CPET measurements , & comorbidities. The CPET is not applied as a pass or fail test . CPET derived Individualised Risk estimates are used to add weight to shared decision making about whether to proceed to surgery , and to help determine perioperative care pathway ( eg High Dependency Care versus ward based care pathway ) . It is worth covering this point about clinical application in the discussion Section by section Title : “ Influence of different data-averaging methods on preoperative risk assessment using cardiopulmonary exercise testing in patients scheduled for colorectal surgery”. I think this title is over stating the impact of the study findings. More appropriate to say “ Influence of different data-averaging methods on mean values of selected variables derived from cardiopulmonary exercise testing in patients scheduled for colorectal surgery” Abstract could define exactly which CPET derived variables were considered in the study – these are defined on p11 , para 2 Methods – clear Results clear Table 2 is really good to demonstrate the results Figure 1 is a graphical representation of averaging – this is a powerful figure to illustrate the point that regardless of averaging method – the thresholds of interest are generally consistent Figure 2 similarly is powerful to demonstrate the spread of individual patients` values dependent on the method of averaging P 11 para 2 – several CPET derived variables defined – however the abbrevations (VO2VAT) and(VE/VCO2VAT) are unusual . I`m accustomed to VO2AT and VE/VCO2AT. Discussion : Re-states main findings and discusses implications in context . Reasonable and moderate conclusions Reviewer #2: This study make nonsense. If the aim is to establish whether the averaging interval of VO2 data has an impact in the VO2max value and the medical decisions adopting depending on this value why are the authors analyzing all results using 30-s averages? Moreover, the metabolic cart data are incomplete, please add PETO2 and PETCO2 data. Are all metabolic carts used disclosed? Or all test were performed with the same metabolic cart? Please add as as an example the full output data of one of the incremental exercise test with breath by breath data and then the calculated 10, 20 or 30 s averaged values. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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PONE-D-22-28377R1Influence of different data-averaging methods on mean values of selected variables derived from preoperative cardiopulmonary exercise testing in patients scheduled for colorectal surgery.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. franssen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please go through the comments of the reviewers. One reviewer has asked to change the focus and consider removing the second aim. Do consider the comment and provide a response. Otherwise, please address the comments by reviewer 4. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 16 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: (No Response) Reviewer #4: (No Response) Reviewer #5: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes Reviewer #5: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes Reviewer #5: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes Reviewer #5: (No Response) ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes Reviewer #5: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #3: The introduction is not specific to the findings of this study until line 108. Although you mention you have addressed reviewer #1 concerns about the interpretation of CPEX utility, comments like lines 106-107 are misleading. I absolutely agree that threshold values are far from agreed upon across surgical specialties. CPEX is at best a single test that should be interpreted in context. I do not believe that patients would be denied surgery on the result on this single test in many institutions - unless you have data on this. This should be made clearer in your paper, not just in the conclusion, which seems at odds now with the introduction. I do believe that it is useful to the examine the influence of data-averaging methods for this test, which the authors have done well. This, in my opinion, should be the focus of the paper. I do not believe the secondary aim of this study is worthwhile. I understand the point being made, but clarifying the influence of different data averaging method is sufficient. We can interpret the clinical application ourselves. I therefore recommend changing the focus of the paper to reflect the above. Reviewer #4: General comments The authors of this study addressed a relatively simple question, yet potentially important from a practical perspective, whether the way data from CPET is averaged affects parameters estimated from the CPET in a clinical population. Overall, the manuscript is well written, and contains all technically relevant information. I think the authors and previous reviewers have done a thorough job, and thus my comments remain relatively minor. I hope my comments help improve the manuscript. The main comments (see below) refers to the interpretation of some of the results in the discussion. Specific comments Line 28 abstract – please abbreviate cardiorespiratory fitness as CRF. Line 64-66 – perhaps you can make the point/link (or make this point clearer) that a key goal of prehabilitation is to increase CRF, and increases in CRF have a clinically relevant positive effect on subsequent complications. Line 100 and throughout the study: I would like see the authors’ view on whether the term ‘anaerobic threshold’ should still be used, even if that’s still common in this field? See for a review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33112439/. The term gas exchange threshold perhaps best captures this first threshold? You also refer in the supplementary material 2 to RCP, but this was not reported in the manuscript. Was this (RCP) only determined for the purpose of determining the VE-VCO2 slope? I fully appreciate the terminology in this field is far from standard and different labs/fields use different terms, I can see the terminology was already addressed in previous reviews, but would like to bring this up again. Figure 1. This may be an error on my end – but the resolution of the figure is not great. Please check before publication. Same in other figures. Line 172 – how was disagreement defined? E.g. As a 5%? 10? difference between two initials assessments? Line 281 – Would it make sense to change from “exercise tolerance” to CRF? I would argue that CRF is then what underpins exercise tolerance – to be ability perform a task without reaching task-failure. The discussion and conclusion should better reflect some of the results reported, in my view– specifically that “within patient variation could be as much as 4.0 mL/kg/min for VO2VAT (40.8%), 5.7 for the OUES/kg (40.3%), 4.7 for VE/VCO2VAT (13.4%), and 10.4 (37.3%) for VE/VCO2-slope when using different data-averaging intervals (see Figure 2).” I can see this is addressed in the last part of the discussion, and also mentioned in the conclusion, but I would like to ask if this can be stressed / made more clear? For example, in the abstract you state: "nor does the choice of data-averaging interval influence perioperative risk assessment", but the results show the opposite (at least at the individual level, which to me is more important than data at the group level in this instance), see lines 263 onwards. Reviewer #5: My perception is that the study is very well organized in writing and the statistic methods were correctly used. However kindly allow me one point to address, as per below: - The authors should also include the effect size in the statistics. This will give a more accurate picture of what the findings represents. Another point to enphasize is that the discussion refers to the main finding of the study, which is very appropriate. This type of initiative will always be very welcome since post surgical complications can be significantly affected (reduced) by the use of apropriate preoperative procedures, bearing in mind that the aim of this study is to manly investigate the methods which are presently being clinically used. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Influence of different data-averaging methods on mean values of selected variables derived from preoperative cardiopulmonary exercise testing in patients scheduled for colorectal surgery. PONE-D-22-28377R2 Dear Dr. franssen, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Lindsay Bottoms Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #4: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #3: Much more focused paper, which addresses a scientific question well. My concerns have been addressed by the authors. Reviewer #4: I have no further comments. The authors have addressed my previous points satisfactorily - thank you for that. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes: Daniel Muniz Pumares ********** |
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