Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 7, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-10316In-vitro accuracy of casts for orthodontic purposes obtained by a conventional and by a printer workflowPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Berndt, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 20 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: There are fundamental issues with the design that need to be addressed in the writing. The conventional alternative method to introral scanning is to use PVS impression material. The use of alginate impressions was never the accepted standard. The manuscript has to be rewritten to emphasize this. Unfortunately with the potential conflict of interest, the fact that the design favors intraoral scanners is problematic. If the authors really wanted to "in good faith" test the conventional system they should have gone with PVS, not alginate. Accordingly, the paper should highlight this issue and downgrade any conclusions. Also, conventional impression are typically not poured to fabricate aligners. They are usually scanned in impression form OR scanned for inclusion in a digital workflow. Honestly, I was on the fence about recommending "major rewrite" OR "reject", mainly because of the choices in the design. On the minor side of notes, the English is acceptable, but could use some editing. The introductions goes a lot into some 3D printing technologies that was not actually used in the study nor is in common clinical use. Reviewer #2: Dear Authors, The aim of this study was to evaluate whether conventionally produced casts and printed casts for aligner therapy show comparabel full-arch accuracy. While the topic is fitting to the journal scope, some concerns were raised to publish as a scientific paper. Revise the manuscript by following comments. Major points All figures were not visible. Please make sure the link to download figures. Materials and methods "best-fit alignment" is a function of CAD software and black box. Add a brief explanation for this alignment. Ten times measurement for same specimen is not fit to statistical analysis. The specimens should be different on each measurement. The Discussion section is short and should be enhanced. Minor points Abstract "in-vitro" should be described in Italic font. Make sure all related points and revise them. "xx um (SD+-xx um)" should be simplified to "xx +- xx um". Materials and methods "a standard tessellation language" should be modified to "a stereolithography". A later standard tessellation language could be described as STL. ".,." is a typo. Some company names appeared many times after the first description. "stl" should be modified to "STL". "300.000" might be modified to "300,000". MAE might be used as a candidate evaluation criteria. Reviewer #3: This was an in vitro study to compare conventional and digital/printed models. Abstract: I find that there were too much abbreviations that it took me a long time to work out what the abstract was describing. I think the authors should limit the abbreviations and formulas to the content of the manuscript to enable readers to understand what the whole text would be about. Manuscript I think the author should consider the clinical importance of their study. Clinically acceptable threshold should be explained early in the text. The authors should consider if the study is really about the superiority of the printed models or clinically acceptability? What would be the added value for the more complex digital workflow which may be more costly than conventional, when the latter is already practical. Furthermore, if the machines are for industrial, how can the clinicians relate as what's accessible to them are commercial machines? Given that the study is only about DLP printer, it would benefit the reader that a general term use for [PRINT] be more specific to DLP. This is now relevant because other types of 3D printers are so easily accessible that readers would now want to focus which printer the study is about. for ease of readership, I would suggest for the authors to minimise using formulas in text and describe their work. The conclusion should reflect the outcome based on the aims of the study. Reviewer #4: Accuracy of conventional and printed casts for orthodontic purposes General • This is a well written report. • The study was thoroughly carried out. TITLE Adequate ABSTRACT Adequate INTRODUCTION Adequate MATERIALS AND METHODS Materials & Instruments: 1. Clarify if the reference cast was scanned and digitized 5 times (line no.89) or 10 times (line no.186). 2. Please describe further details of the standardization of application of artificial saliva (especially in relation to the amount) before taking alginate impression (line no. 104). 3. As described in Discussion (line no.) which states the moisture sensitive property of alginate, report on the time taken after impression until casting and whether moisture loss from alginate impression was minimized similar to normal clinical situation. RESULTS 4. Suggest reporting on precision analysis results of the high-resolution scans of the reference cast [REF] (line no.185). DISCUSSION 5. Discuss the widening of the arch in the molar area with intraoral scanning. LIMITATIONS 6. Limitations need to be addressed, comment on inherent weakness of in vitro studying, focusing on possible differences in clinical situation. For example, intraoral scanning of the reference cast for the digital workflow was done on dry cast which may not truly reflect oral condition, and the interdental undercuts of the reference cast was blocked out with wax before alginate impression and this may not be standard clinical practice. CONCLUSION Suggest using the term ‘superior precision results’ to be more specific to the study findings. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT Suggest indicating if Berfin Yatmaz is a person or a company ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes: MANG CHEK WEY ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-22-10316R1In-vitro accuracy of casts for orthodontic purposes obtained by a conventional and by a printer workflowPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Berndt, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Kindly address the concerns raised by the reviewers. I look forward to receiving your revised version of the manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 16 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Mirza Rustum Baig Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Unfortunately, in their response to comments, the authors have decided to dodge some concerns or flat out double down on their shortcomings in the study. There seems to be some confusion in the their arguments against the "conventional workflow". Nowadays, even when physical impressions are made for the sake of aligner fabrication, gypsum casts are seldom used. Yes, in orthodontics we still typically use stone casts for diagnosis, retainer fabrication etc, but who produces a series of gypsum casts for aligner fabrication?? This is obviously the case because it would be pointless to digitally "move" the teeth and create stages then go back to gypsum casts. Once in the digital format, it is typically printed. Regardless, the study is slightly improved compared to last version. I still have some feedback and comments below. With minor tweaks, it will be more acceptable. 1)The IOS and alginate impressions were obtained under different circumstances. It would have been very easy for the authors to use artificial saliva and wax block-out for the IOS too. This should be highlighted in the limitations 2) The authors need to report the details of the type and properties of the "gypsum used" as different types of dental stones have different properties. 3) DLP printers differ significantly in print quality. The high-end printer and resin used might not be completely comparable to lower-end or more affordable options. This no way a criticism of the study, just a mere comment. 4) Was it not possible for the authors to directly compare DLP vs. Gypsum in table 1 5) In the discussion, line 285, it is not relevant to the study to mention brackets. As stated by the authors, the study is about aligners, which makes brackets irrelevant. 6)Tthe conclusions need some editing. Point 1 and 2 of the conclusions can be merged together. 7) Replace the term "conventional" with "alginate-based" OR "alginate/gypsum" in the conclusions. Reviewer #2: Dear Authors, The manuscript was mostly revised according to the reviewer's comments. However, all figures were still not visible from the embedded link. The link has been expired. Please put all figures in the main text. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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In-vitro accuracy of casts for orthodontic purposes obtained by a conventional and by a printer workflow PONE-D-22-10316R2 Dear Dr. Berndt, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Sompop Bencharit, DDS, MS, PhD, FACP Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): The reviewer and editor were pleased with the revised manuscript. We appreciate your time and contribution. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: Dear Authors, The manuscript was appropriately revised according to the reviewer comment. Thanks for your effort. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No ********** |
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PONE-D-22-10316R2 In-vitro accuracy of casts for orthodontic purposes obtained by a conventional and by a printer workflow Dear Dr. Berndt: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Sompop Bencharit Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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