Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionSeptember 7, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-24996Supporting grant reviewers through the scientometric ranking of applicantsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Győrffy, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 08 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you are reporting a retrospective study of medical records or archived samples, please ensure that you have discussed whether all data were fully anonymized before you accessed them and/or whether the IRB or ethics committee waived the requirement for informed consent. If patients provided informed written consent to have data from their medical records used in research, please include this information. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This is an interesting analysis, though limited to one aspect of a grant application. Would it be possible that the grant assessment process analysed in your study was biased/skewed by the previous dissemination/previous "good name" of the authors? This then reflected on them receiving more funding? The authors should discuss what happens if there are several applicants in a single grant application as the values will differ between investigators? Is the study per se not important when adjudicating research funding? Some authors make extensive use of social medial, dissemination in other ways. Would it be fair for these to receive more funding? Would this system skew research funding to those already better known and not allow new researchers to emerge? Note that scientometrics will be influenced by internal aspects. A simple example, in dentistry, if you compare 2 specialties (e.g. orthodontics versus endodontics, see papers below), you will have different values. Let alone comparing medicine vs dentistry or medicine vs. engineering. Fields with higher scientometric values will gain more funding. Doğramacı EJ, Rossi-Fedele G. Predictors of societal and professional impact of Endodontology research articles: A multivariate scientometric analysis. Int Endod J. 2022;55(4):312-325. doi:10.1111/iej.13676 Esma J. Doğramacı, Giampiero Rossi-Fedele. Predictors of societal and professional impact of orthodontic research. A multivariate, scientometric approach in Scientometrics (2021) Reviewer #2: The authors preseted an interesting application of an grant selection decision support system. The anlysi was done competently however the reults are not clearly presented and the discusion is weak. It seems to me that the "exellence" increase based on new metrics provided by the suport tool is quite logical becouse since 2020 reviewers took those metrics into account, and before that their decision was based mostly on the content of the applications. Similar systems/tools are used by quit a few of coutries, so the authors should review them in the introduction and compare them to the Hungarian system in the discusion. They should also criticaly discuss their findings in the disscusion section. The authors shoud also focus more on the question if the review process improved after the tool introduction ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Peter Kokol ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-22-24996R1Supporting grant reviewers through the scientometric ranking of applicantsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Győrffy, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 18 2023 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols. Additionally, PLOS ONE offers an option for publishing peer-reviewed Lab Protocol articles, which describe protocols hosted on protocols.io. Read more information on sharing protocols at https://plos.org/protocols?utm_medium=editorial-email&utm_source=authorletters&utm_campaign=protocols. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Fausto Cavallaro, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: I Don't Know ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thanks for addressing my comments not sure why I need to write 100 characters here change this feature Reviewer #3: The manuscript "Supporting grant reviewers through the scientometric ranking of applicants" presents the Hungarian portal www.scientometrics.org and its usage in grant decisions. The manuscript is very descriptive, maybe too desciptive. Bornmann and Daniel (2007) proposed to calculate type I and type II errors for measuring (dis-) agreement between bibliometric values and peer review decisions. Such calculation of type I and type II errors would be interesting for this dataset. The authors mention that the portal www.scientometrics.org presents discipline- and time- normalized indicators. The details of the normalization procedure are not presented. Which discipline delineation was used? How were tied researchers handled? How large (in terms of number of researchers) are the groups of discipline and time groups? How do the distributions of the values look like? Normalizations are only useful if the entitied to be normalized are numerous enough. For percentiles and deciles, it is additionally important to have a rather well distribution of the values. From Figure 2c I think that handling of ties is problematic: More than two thirds of the researchers in this example discipline and age seem to have not a single first/last Q1 article. Why is this example researcher positioned around rank 900? All researchers between ranks 300 and 1500 seem to have not a single first/last Q1 article. This researcher seems to be in the top deciles in two of the three measures and tied with two third of the other researchers in the third measure. It is strange that the average result is the fourth decile. The h index has been heavily criticized. Composite scores also have been criticized. The manuscript lacks a thorough discussion of the problems of the indicators employed in the portal www.scientometrics.org. Some more specific comments are listed below: - Page 4, section "Publication and citation data": "... the citation data in MTMT is catalogued to list dependent and independent citations for each publication." Usually, dependent citations are referred to as self-citations in the scientometric literature, and independent citations are the citations without self-citations. This terminology is used on page 9 and should be used throghout the manuscript. Note that not all self-citations are illigitemate. A more open discussion should be provided. - Page 4, section "Publication and citation data": "To increase simplicity, the average of the three percentiles is computed (in this, the number of publications has a double weight), and this final score is transformed into deciles between D1 and D10, where D1 is the best." Why was the average of the percentiles used? Usually, the median would be used. The manuscript should be proofread more carefully, see for example: - Page 4, section "Publication and citation data": "The number of publications is determined differentially in each scientific discipline ... ." --> "The number of publications is determined differently in each scientific discipline ... ." - Page 5, section "Reviewer feedback": "In additional to general data ... ." --> "In addition to general data ... ." - Page 5, section "Statistical analysis": "... submitted and founded applications." --> "... submitted and funded applications." - Page 10: "... as least ..." --> "... at least ..." - Page 10: "In science, the citations and journal rankings thus have similar role to that of the GDP-figures when discussing the country’s economic performance." --> "In science, the citations and journal rankings thus have a similar role to that of the GDP-figures when discussing the country’s economic performance." - Page 10, plural-singular issue: "With the easily available ranking, a higher proportions of grant applicants with higher score received funding." L. Bornmann & H.-D. Daniel, Convergent validation of peer review decisions using the h index: Extent of and reasons for type I and type II errors, Journal of Informetrics 1(3), 204-213, DOI: 10.1016/j.joi.2007.01.002 ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #3: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Supporting grant reviewers through the scientometric ranking of applicants PONE-D-22-24996R2 Dear Dr. Győrffy, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Fausto Cavallaro, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments: On the base ot the reviewers comments the paper can be accepted. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #3: The authors have addressed my comments appropriately. Stuff to complete the 100 characters minimum. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #3: No ********** |
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PONE-D-22-24996R2 Supporting grant reviewers through the scientometric ranking of applicants Dear Dr. Győrffy: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Professor Fausto Cavallaro Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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