Peer Review History
Original SubmissionMay 23, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-14859Deep learning-based diagnosis of feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy: Comparison of five neural enginesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Young Son, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ACADEMIC EDITOR:
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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Summary: Rho et al attempt to use deep learning networks to diagnose hypertrophic cardiomyopathy from radiographs of cats. Networks were trained on 231 radiographs (143 HCM vs 88 normal) and tested on a hold-out dataset of 22 radiographs (11 HCM vs 11 normals). Five different off-the-shelf network types were compared and all five gave identical results: 95% diagnostic accuracy (compared to 75% without AI). Review: I disclose that I have no expertise in vetenary/feline medicine but there does seem to be significant utility in such an algorithm. The manuscript is easy to follow and understand. There are however some limitations: 1. the numbers of both training and test data (only 11 diseased subjects) is small. Probably too small to judge the algorithm's effectiveness on. 2. the validation set seems to be from the same institution and not independent, which limits the generalisability of the conclusions. 3. the paper only compares healthy cats to HCM. In humans, this is an easy problem -- the difficulty comes when you also consider other pathologies/phenotypes such as DCM, valve disease etc which probably give a similar cardiac silhouette. I would be interested to know how the algorithm performs on other pathologies. 4. they use the opinion of an experienced reader as ground truth -- this is not very strong. Wouldn't echo/ultrasound give you a much stronger gold standard? 5. the comparison of 5 network architecture does not add much -- particularly since results are identical. Minor comments 1. while the paper is easy to follow there are several grammatical errors which could do with correction 2. were images augmented for training? Presumably so given the small size of the training data but the parameters need to be stated. 3. Several performance measures are reported (e.g. in table 1), but sensitivity and specificity would be most useful 4. please include more details on ethics. Reviewer #2: As its name indicates, this paper deals with Deep learning-based diagnosis of feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy through Comparison of five neural engines 1. I do not have any comments about the deep models, but the outcomes of the simulations are given only quantitatively. It would be nice to have some expert feedbacks for evaluating the results. 2. The authors should also show that the results explained in this article have fair developing stages without making “peeking”. Briefly, peeking is using testing datasets for validation purposes (such as parameter tuning) by making too many iterative submissions (Kuncheva (2014), page 17). In other words, testing sets, which should only be in the previously unseen data, now do not serve testing purposes anymore. Even though it is an indirect usage, peeking is surprisingly an underestimated problem in academic studies which causes overfitting of deep models on a target data. Therefore, theoretically very successful models for specific data may not be useful for real-world problems. Kavur, A. Emre, et al. "CHAOS challenge-combined (CT-MR) healthy abdominal organ segmentation." Medical Image Analysis 69 (2021): 101950. The authors should at least discuss the potential effects of peeking on their results. They should also consider, (maybe apply if possible) and discuss strategies that are being used to avoid peeking such as: Selver. et al "Basic Ensembles of Vanilla-Style Deep Learning Models Improve Liver Segmentation From CT Images." arXiv preprint arXiv:2001.09647 (2020). Conze, Pierre-Henri, et al. "Abdominal multi-organ segmentation with cascaded convolutional and adversarial deep networks." Artificial Intelligence in Medicine 117 (2021): 102109. 3. Since the authors used many models to compare the results, they can also test the ensemble strategies, which are shown to outperform single model results at medical image analysis applications such as : Menze, Bjoern H., et al. "The multimodal brain tumor image segmentation benchmark (BRATS)." IEEE transactions on medical imaging 34.10 (2014): 1993-2024. Kavur, A. Emre, et al. "Comparison of semi-automatic and deep learning-based automatic methods for liver segmentation in living liver transplant donors." Diagnostic and Interventional Radiology 26.1 (2020): 11. 4. The diversity and omplementarity of the utilized models shoudl also be analyzed through statistis and Kappa. An eemplary analysis an be found at Toprak, Tugce, et al. "Conditional weighted ensemble of transferred models for camera based onboard pedestrian detection in railway driver support systems." IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology 69.5 (2020): 5041-5054. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-22-14859R1Deep learning-based diagnosis of feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy: Comparison of five deep neural network modelsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Son Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== ACADEMIC EDITOR:
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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you to the authors for taking our comments on board and adapting the manuscript -- a lot of effort has gone into this the manuscript is improved as a result. In summary, the test data has expanded, but still on the small side (though I appreciate the scarcity of data) and the ground truth is slightly suboptimal (but consistent with what is used in clinical practice). The authors have answered all my comments and I have responded to these, with my responses denoted by '>>'. 1.. the numbers of both training and test data (only 11 diseased subjects) is small. Probably too small to judge the algorithm's effectiveness on. - Thank you for your advice. We understand your concerns regarding the small test datasets. Because of the scarcity of legally available radiographic images of HCMaffected cats, we had no choice but to focus on training the model. To enhance the credibility of our model, additional 10 radiographic images of normal and HCM-affected cats from another animal hospital are evaluated. >> thank you. It would be worth emphasising in the main text that you now have more independent test data (the text still reads 11 HCM and 11 normals). 2. the validation set seems to be from the same institution and not independent, which limits the generalisability of the conclusions. - Thank you for the critical advice on the generalizability of the image. The image is obtained not only from the teaching hospital but also from three other local hospitals. We did not comment on the data's origin for the ethical and private concerns. Here, we included the tables describing the origin of the images (although the specific name of the institution is hidden) in supplementary table 1. >>thanks. it would be well worth emphasising this in the main text. 3. the paper only compares healthy cats to HCM. In humans, this is an easy problem -- the difficulty comes when you also consider other pathologies/phenotypes such as DCM, valve disease etc which probably give a similar cardiac silhouette. I would be interested to know how the algorithm performs on other pathologies. - We appreciate your advice. The prevalence of cardiac disease in cat is quite different from any other animals or human. The most frequent, predominant cardiac disease is HCM and other cardiac disease is very rare in cat. In 306 primary cardiac disorders from 1998 to 2005, 252 cases were cardiomyopathy (82%) and 48 cases (16%) were congenital heart disease. We unfortunately failed to obtain radiographic images of other cardiac diseases in cats. Therefore, diagnosing whether it is DCM from radiographic image may be most important for cats. S.C. Riesen, A. Kovacevic, et al. Prevalence of heart disease in symptomatic cats: an overview from 1998 to 2005 Richard W. Nelson, C. Guillermo Couto, Small animal internal medicine 5th edition. >>thanks for clarifying -- this makes sense. Could this information (and the references) be added to the main body of the paper? 4. they use the opinion of an experienced reader as ground truth -- this is not very strong. Wouldn't echo/ultrasound give you a much stronger gold standard? - We thank you for the interesting question. As mentioned, the gold standard for diagnosing heart disease is an ultrasound. Because only specialized veterinarians can perform echocardiography and a US machine is required, most veterinarians rely on X-ray and auscultation. The animal is referred to a specialized animal hospital if cardiac disease is suspected in auscultation or radiography. At this point, the deep learning algorithm we developed can suggest and screen whether the animal may be affected by HCM at the x-ray level. >>OK, thanks. Like me, many PLOS readers will also have little expertise in feline medicine and the availability of data so it would be worth emphasising this in the text. It would also be worth adding a discussion about the limitations (subjectivity, error and variability of experts etc) in the discussion. 5. the comparison of 5 network architecture does not add much -- particularly since results are identical. - Thank you for the advice. As the accuracy of the architecture is high predominantly, comparing the five models seems futile. However, in the detailed observation, you will see that misdiagnosed images are different except Resnets. The data shows that each model has different flaws that drive the misdiagnosis. Based on your opinion that the results are identical, we ensembled the trained architecture. The ensemble model works when the prediction made by each model considers five prediction values and makes the final decision. As a result, the ensemble model achieved 100% accuracy from the old test sample. >>Thanks. You might want to reconsider the title etc. The main contribution to the paper is a novel algorithm for diagnosing feline HCM from X-rays. Adding the subtitle about 5 neural nets downplays your contribution a little... Thank you for addressing the other comments -- they have been done satisfactorily. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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