PONE-D-22-18545Simple Anthropometric Measures to Predict Visceral Adipose Tissue Area in Middle-Aged Indonesian MenPLOS ONE

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Reviewer #1: 1. Please use updated reference in line 75. This data is from 2016.

2. Please check if the reference is correct in line 98.

3. In line 98, the author said Indonesia is a country with more than 600 ethnicities, and then in line 117, all the volunteers were recruited from one university. What’s the ethnic diversity of this group? Will it be a good representative group for all Indonesian population?

4. Please insert the sample size in line 116 and what analysis method did you use for this sample size, Power analysis?

5. In line 137 normoweight? or normal weight?

6. Please insert the reference paper in line 151.

7. Why did you choose 40-60 as the age limit of the volunteers? Why not age 20 plus? line 157 nornoweight?

8. It would be good to put in height and weight in table 1. So we know the body weight range for the people. The reason is because one limitation of conducting CT scan is its inapplicability for extremely obese people. 68.8% of the subjects in this study were overweight or obese.

9, In figure 1, please note what is the significant cut point of P value in legend.

10. Figure 2 didn’t mark A,B in the plot.

11. In line 183-193, this paper suggested using WC or BMI for central obesity, how about fat free mass? Have you considered adding FFM as an factor that influences WC or BMI? I suggest that you should adjust your WC or BMI by FFM and then do the regression with VAT again.

12. In line 196, same as comment 3, is this population sample a good representative for all of Indonesia?

Reviewer #2: The purpose of this study is to develop a formula to predict visceral adipose tissue (VAT) area from waist circumference (WC) and BMI and to determine its cutoff value. There have been very few papers on the evaluation of visceral fatty obesity using CT or MRI in Indonesia, and the method of estimating it from abdominal circumference and BMI is a simple and very interesting study. On the other hand, the very small number of subjects (small sample size and male only) is clearly a weak point of this study. In addition, there are many papers examining the relationship between visceral fat and body composition using CT or MRI, but I could not understand why a simple method that does not correct for age, weight, etc. needs to be developed. In addition, considering the large number of previous international studies, this study should have a much larger number of cited papers.

Major comments

The importance of studies participated in men should be added to Line73-86. Similarly, the importance of assessing visceral fat should be added to Lines 91-94.

It should be emphasized that most of the previous studies in Indonesia used simple methods such as the impedance method, and few studies have used in CT or MRI of high-precision method. The following paper assessing visceral fat in Indonesia may be helpful to cite.

doi: 10.1016/j.orcp.2020.11.003.

doi: 10.3390/jcm7050096

doi: 10.1016/j.diabres.2007.01.062.

doi: 10.2337/dc18-1074.

Line 116 Were the subjects recruited from patients attending the hospital? Please add the method of recruiting subjects.

Line 125 and Line 134. What conditions were body composition and CT assessments measured? Please describe the measurement conditions, such as clothing, fasting time, etc.

Line 131. Please add a citation to show the rationale for setting the HU values for fat in the range of -190 to -30 HU.

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PONE-D-22-18545R1Simple Anthropometric Measures to Predict Visceral Adipose Tissue Area in Middle-Aged Indonesian MenPLOS ONE

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Reviewer #2: Thank you for your sincere response to my comments. I confirmed that this manuscript has been a significant improvement. No additional comments from me if the following areas are improved.

Minor comments

Line 29 It should be changed to "The diagnosing of central obesity...".

Line 131 It should be changed from “healthy weight” to “normal weight”

The percentage of overweight or obese persons in this study (68.8%) appears to be higher than the actual situation in Indonesia. Therefore, the results obtained in this study may not be generalizable. This point should be added to the limitations.

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Simple Anthropometric Measures to Predict Visceral Adipose Tissue Area in Middle-Aged Indonesian Men

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