Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 3, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-16067The Bland-Altman method should not be used when one of the two measurement methods has negligible measurement errorsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Taffé, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== ACADEMIC EDITOR:I have read this paper multiple times and it is indeed very interesting. Together with the suggestions from Reviewer 1 i would also suggest the following changes/additions:- Please provide your Data generating mechanisms/code as supplemental material. - Line 47 - Please update the number of citations and reference to google scholar, instead os just a google search (27 July 2022 - 51,759).- Line 49 - Please inform the reader of the actual assumptions. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 10 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: A generally well written manuscript in good English. I detected no obvious o=typographical or grammatical errors. There are some points to consider. Introduction. This sets the scene well, however, at line 49 and then from line 75 onward, the authors refer to violating the underlying assumptions of the B&A method and refer to three of their prior publications. It would be extremely helpful to state here exactly what these assumptions are. This is important since it underscores the need for this paper. It is remiss to expect the reader to have to seek out these other publications particularly since I assume the hope of the authors is to alert the statistically naïve reader to the fallibilities of the B&A method. Line 112. I am not convinced that it is always the case or implicit that one method is assumed as the reference. The original B&A approach was not designed with this in mind but simply to compare different methods for interchangeability not how well one performs against a standard method. In this case the x axis is the mean of methods. Later modifications of the B&A approach have certainly assumed a reference method and X axis values become those of the method. See DOI: 10.1002/sim.3086. Please justify or modify your statements. Lines 130-140. The values provided here are presumably for the magnitude of the data set being used but this is not clear. Please provide a few details of the dataset (or provide as supplementary data). Again for the naïve reader the source of these numeric values will be obscure. Line 149-150. It would be useful here to define formally for the reader what is meant by "differential" and "proportional" biases rather than inferring this from the previous sentences or waiting until lines around line 167 to find out. Line 195. My point above - the mean of methods is not necessarily used when one assumes a reference method (or one with minimal error). The Results are generally clearly presented. The Discussion is a misnomer. There is no Discussion it is simply a list of key findings. The authors need to place their observations and criticisms of the B&A method in context of papers which are pro the B&A approach (e.g. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gloepi.2020.100045) and those that are negative (e.g. Sportscience, 8 (2004), pp. 42-46 and Krouwer cited above). In addition, while noting the need to account for variation in measurements (error) they have omitted to mention the B and A modified their original method to take this into account (see DOI: 10.1177/096228029900800204 and has been discussed elsewhere https://doi.org/10.1093/bja/aem214) This latter paper recognizes that the standard B&A cannot be applied where repeated measures are available, i.e. the error is known and albeit potentially is negligible as in the authors examples. Discussion on these points is relevant and would be useful. Reviewer #2: It is a very well written paper. Bland-Altman plot is an excellent analysis tool for evaluating agreement between instruments. The authors have very clearly shown its shortcomings and have also suggested a new method for a more insightful analysis. A minor suggestion is that the 95% confidence intervals of differential and proportional biases should be added to the bias plot. ********** 6. 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The Bland-Altman method should not be used when one of the two measurement methods has negligible measurement errors PONE-D-22-16067R1 Dear Dr. Taffé, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Markus Harboe Olsen Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Dear Authors, Your comments to the reviewers suggestions are acceptable. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have satisfactorily addressed the issues raised in my original review and I now support publication. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** |
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PONE-D-22-16067R1 The Bland-Altman method should not be used when one of the two measurement methods has negligible measurement errors Dear Dr. Taffé: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Markus Harboe Olsen Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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