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PONE-D-22-09320Galactosyl- and glucosylsphingosine induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and lysosome-dependent cell deathPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jäättelä, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process, which you can find below. ============================== Reviewer 1 The manuscript “Galactosyl- and glucosylsphingosine induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and lysosome-dependent cell death” by Stahl-Meyer et al is well written The presentation is structured and easy to read. The authors have exposed MCF-7 cells to galactosylsphingosine and glucosylsphingosine and identified lysosomal membrane permeabilization before cell death. The mechanism of action is compared to cationic amphiphilic drugs (CADs) which have an established pathway to cause LMP-dependent cell death through activation of cAMP. However the results do not support their conviction. The manuscript should be rewritten with more careful interpretation of the data. Major comments: 1. The lysosphinolipids are added to cells at different concentrations, which on the one hand contribute to make the study transparent, but also make it very hard to compare results between different panels. For example glucosylsphingosine is used at the concentrations 25, 28, 30, 32, 35, 38, 40, 43, 45 and 50 µM in the presented experiments. From the results in Fig 5 the authors note that glucosylsphingosine may induce cell death through different mechanisms depending on if the concentration is 28 or 32 µM. The results are similar for galactosylsphingosine in a slightly higher concentrations span (different mechanism at 40 and 43 µM). With this very narrow concentration span in mind, it is challenging to interpret and compare the results. The authors need to address this in the discussion. 2. In Figure 3 lysosomal membrane permeabilization is estimated by galectin-3 positive puncta. How many lysosomes must be galectin positive to induce lysosomal dependent cell death? In samples exposed to Ebastine, the CAD that is used as a positive control, galectin-3 puncta are found in 80% of the cells and each cell presents approx. 7 positive puncta. The corresponding numbers for the lysosphinolipids are 45% cells with 2-3 positive puncta/cell. The cell death is, however, much higher in the lysosphinolipids; 80% of the cells has died after 48 h which means that a large proportion of the cells died without showing positive galectine-3 puncta. Considering that Ebastine, although showing high number of galectin puncta, only show 40% cell death after 48h indicates that the MCF-7 cells are not excessively sensitive to broken lysosomes. Thus, the correlation between galectin puncta and cell death is not convincing for lysosphinolipids and the impact of LMP overestimated in the cell death mechanism for the lysosphinolipids. 3. The authors have considered several alternative cell death mechanism with negative result. However, as lysosphinolipids are accumulated in other parts of the cell beside the lysosomes, could the toxicity be caused by mitochondrial damage. Could the toxicity be an effect of increased production of ROS? Would an antioxidant protect? 4. Figure 7: It is surprising that normal and NPC-negative fibroblasts are more sensitive to lysosphinolipids (concentration range 15-23 µM) than MCF-7 cells, while Ebastine toxicity is in the same range in all cell types. Can this be explained? 5. Figure 7. Include galectin puncta results for Ebastine as mentioned in the figure legend 7F. Minor: - Row 425 “…….reached maximal levels already after 2 hours….” According to the graph it should be 4 h. - Figure 5A Coloring of the bars could be improved to increase the clarity (GalSph and Siramesine are both red and Control and GluSph both black) Reviewer 2 Stahl-Meyer and coworkers show here that GalSph and GlcSph trigger lysosome membrane permeabilization (LMP) and cell death in MCF7 cells. LMP was associated to generation of cAMP and independent of lysosomal calcium release. Moreover, LMP was significantly prevented by cholesterol, a known membrane-stabilizing factor. In keeping with this, fibroblasts from a Niemann-Pick type C patient were protected against GalSph- and GlcSph-induced lysosomal death. The manuscript is interesting and well written. The data are abundant and of high quality; the experimental approach is effective and adequate to answer the biological questions the authors are facing with. Despite the overall appreciation deserved to the research and its results, I have found and listed below a few points that need attention by the Authors. Major criticisms 1. In my opinion, the reason(s) for using breast cancer cell lines of the luminal A subtype as the main experimental model for this study is not so obvious and not adequately addressed in the manuscript. If the aim of the study is to prove the capability of the lysosphingolipids to specifically trigger kill breast cancer cells, the results should be compared with other generated using normal breast epithelial cells. 2. Page 19, line 308-312. GalSph and GlcSph have an LD50 of 44 and 33 µM, respectively. Fig S1 shows that the number of MCF7 cells is markedly reduced by GalSph and GlcSph already at 40 and 30 µM, and this effect is claimed to be produced by using a ‘sublethal’ concentration of sphingolipids. However, Fig. 1A shows that these concentrations already trigger cell death, which thus cannot be considered ‘sublethal’. In addition, the concepts of inhibition of cell growth and of induction of cell death are used as synonyms, which is not correct. The paragraph needs revision. 3. Page 21, lines 340-342. Although the data on LMP induction are clear and basically convincing, occurrence of lysosomal death should be further confirmed by the demonstration that cathepsin inhibitors or elevation of intracellular pH prevent cell death. 4. Page 25, about the effect of cholesterol on lysosphingolipid-induced cell death. Have the Authors verified whether cholesterol supplementation affects CAD- or lysosphingolipid-induced cAMP generation? 5. Page 29, lines 553-555. The data presented in the manuscript refer to MCF7 cells only, one among many models of the multiple breast cancer molecular subtypes. Thus, although in my opinion it is likely to be true, this sentence is not adequately supported by direct experimental evidences, thus should be modified, unless better validated in additional cancer models. Minor criticisms - Page 13, line 160. ‘Greisner…’ should be probably changed to ‘Greiner…’. Please check. - Page 16, line 221. ‘+’ should be changed to ‘±’. - Page 21, lines 351-353. The aim of this experimental dataset is to verify that both Gal- and GlcSph enter the cells. Thus, I would have expected a sentence stating this fact, not pointing out the decrease of HexSph in the medium (the complementary information) which, on the other hand, does not unambiguously proves their uptake by the cells. Although I understand that this comment refers to the one’s feeling and for this is basically questionable, should the Authors agree with this view the sentence could be updated to evidence the uptake and the intracellular accumulation of lysosphingolipids. Reviewer 3 In the present study, Dr. Stahl-Meyer K et al. investigated the effects of lysosphingolipids, galactosylsphingosine (GalSph) and glucosylsphingosine (GlcSph), on lysosomes in comparison to lysosome-destabilizing cationic amphiphilic drugs (CADs). The authors showed that GalSph and GlcSph induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and lysosome-dependent cell death in MCF-7 breast cancer cells and human fibroblasts. The authors also showed that the contribution of cAMP and Ca2+ pathways in inducing cell death was different in lysosphingolipids and CADs. Since GalSph and GlcSph are lysophospholipids that accumulate in the brains of patients with Krabbe disease and Gaucher disease, respectively, this study deals with an important theme and may be of interest to wide-readers. The data presented in this manuscript roughly support the authors’ conclusion, but the authors need to address the following comments to confirm their conclusions. Specific comments: 1. Figure 3: The enhancement of lysosomal permeability by GalSph (50 or 53 µM) or GlcSph (38 or 40 µM) is weaker than that of ebastine (12 or 16 µM). On the other hand, the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph is stronger than that of ebastine. Taken together, it is possible to consider the contribution of the enhancement of lysosomal permeability to the induction of cell death by GalSph and GlcSph is small. At least there should be some discussion about this contradiction. 2. Figure 5: It is desirable to analyze intracellular cAMP levels and Ca2+ efflux, as the authors did in a previous paper. In addition, it is considered that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using lysophospholipids in combination with a reagent that lowers cAMP rather than in combination with forskolin that raises cAMP. Similarly, it is desirable to analyze the lysosomal pH. 3. Figure 6F & G: Although the authors are measuring intracellular GalSph and GlcSph, it is desirable to measure GalSph and GlcSph in lysosomes, as is done in Figure 4. 4. Figure 1E-G: It is desirable to have positive controls for necrostatin-1 and ferrostatin-1. 5. P6L117: The authors describe fibroblasts from patients with Gaucher's disease in the Materials and Methods section but have not shown any results using these cells. 6. P19L456-462: The instructions in Figures 6D and 6E are reversed. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 30 2022 11:59PM. 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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript “Galactosyl- and glucosylsphingosine induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and lysosome-dependent cell death” by Stahl-Meyer et al is well written The presentation is structured and easy to read. The authors have exposed MCF-7 cells to galactosylsphingosine and glucosylsphingosine and identified lysosomal membrane permeabilization before cell death. The mechanism of action is compared to cationic amphiphilic drugs (CADs) which have an established pathway to cause LMP-dependent cell death through activation of cAMP. However the results do not support their conviction. The manuscript should be rewritten with more careful interpretation of the data. Major comments: The lysosphinolipids are added to cells at different concentrations, which on the one hand contribute to make the study transparent, but also make it very hard to compare results between different panels. For example glucosylsphingosine is used at the concentrations 25, 28, 30, 32, 35, 38, 40, 43, 45 and 50 µM in the presented experiments. From the results in Fig 5 the authors note that glucosylsphingosine may induce cell death through different mechanisms depending on if the concentration is 28 or 32 µM. The results are similar for galactosylsphingosine in a slightly higher concentrations span (different mechanism at 40 and 43 µM). With this very narrow concentration span in mind, it is challenging to interpret and compare the results. The authors need to address this in the discussion. In Figure 3 lysosomal membrane permeabilization is estimated by galectin-3 positive puncta. How many lysosomes must be galectin positive to induce lysosomal dependent cell death? In samples exposed to Ebastine, the CAD that is used as a positive control, galectin-3 puncta are found in 80% of the cells and each cell presents approx. 7 positive puncta. The corresponding numbers for the lysosphinolipids are 45% cells with 2-3 positive puncta/cell. The cell death is, however, much higher in the lysosphinolipids; 80% of the cells has died after 48 h which means that a large proportion of the cells died without showing positive galectine-3 puncta. Considering that Ebastine, although showing high number of galectin puncta, only show 40% cell death after 48h indicates that the MCF-7 cells are not excessively sensitive to broken lysosomes. Thus, the correlation between galectin puncta and cell death is not convincing for lysosphinolipids and the impact of LMP overestimated in the cell death mechanism for the lysosphinolipids. The authors have considered several alternative cell death mechanism with negative result. However, as lysosphinolipids are accumulated in other parts of the cell beside the lysosomes, could the toxicity be caused by mitochondrial damage. Could the toxicity be an effect of increased production of ROS? Would an antioxidant protect? Figure 7: It is surprising that normal and NPC-negative fibroblasts are more sensitive to lysosphinolipids (concentration range 15-23 µM) than MCF-7 cells, while Ebastine toxicity is in the same range in all cell types. Can this be explained? Figure 7. Include galectin puncta results for Ebastine as mentioned in the figure legend 7F. Minor: Row 425 “…….reached maximal levels already after 2 hours….” According to the graph it should be 4 h. Figure 5A Coloring of the bars could be improved to increase the clarity (GalSph and Siramesine are both red and Control and GluSph both black) Reviewer #2: Stahl-Meyer and coworkers show here that GalSph and GlcSph trigger lysosome membrane permeabilization (LMP) and cell death in MCF7 cells. LMP was associated to generation of cAMP and independent of lysosomal calcium release. Moreover, LMP was significantly prevented by cholesterol, a known membrane-stabilizing factor. In keeping with this, fibroblasts from a Niemann-Pick type C patient were protected against GalSph- and GlcSph-induced lysosomal death. The manuscript is interesting and well written. The data are abundant and of high quality; the experimental approach is effective and adequate to answer the biological questions the authors are facing with. Despite the overall appreciation deserved to the research and its results, I have found and listed below a few points that need attention by the Authors. Major criticisms In my opinion, the reason(s) for using breast cancer cell lines of the luminal A subtype as the main experimental model for this study is not so obvious and not adequately addressed in the manuscript. If the aim of the study is to prove the capability of the lysosphingolipids to specifically trigger kill breast cancer cells, the results should be compared with other generated using normal breast epithelial cells. Page 19, line 308-312. GalSph and GlcSph have an LD50 of 44 and 33 µM, respectively. Fig S1 shows that the number of MCF7 cells is markedly reduced by GalSph and GlcSph already at 40 and 30 µM, and this effect is claimed to be produced by using a ‘sublethal’ concentration of sphingolipids. However, Fig. 1A shows that these concentrations already trigger cell death, which thus cannot be considered ‘sublethal’. In addition, the concepts of inhibition of cell growth and of induction of cell death are used as synonyms, which is not correct. The paragraph needs revision. Page 21, lines 340-342. Although the data on LMP induction are clear and basically convincing, occurrence of lysosomal death should be further confirmed by the demonstration that cathepsin inhibitors or elevation of intracellular pH prevent cell death. Page 25, about the effect of cholesterol on lysosphingolipid-induced cell death. Have the Authors verified whether cholesterol supplementation affects CAD- or lysosphingolipid-induced cAMP generation? Page 29, lines 553-555. The data presented in the manuscript refer to MCF7 cells only, one among many models of the multiple breast cancer molecular subtypes. Thus, although in my opinion it is likely to be true, this sentence is not adequately supported by direct experimental evidences, thus should be modified, unless better validated in additional cancer models. Minor criticisms Page 13, line 160. ‘Greisner…’ should be probably changed to ‘Greiner…’. Please check. Page 16, line 221. ‘+’ should be changed to ‘±’. Page 21, lines 351-353. The aim of this experimental dataset is to verify that both Gal- and GlcSph enter the cells. Thus, I would have expected a sentence stating this fact, not pointing out the decrease of HexSph in the medium (the complementary information) which, on the other hand, does not unambiguously proves their uptake by the cells. Although I understand that this comment refers to the one’s feeling and for this is basically questionable, should the Authors agree with this view the sentence could be updated to evidence the uptake and the intracellular accumulation of lysosphingolipids. Reviewer #3: In the present study, Dr. Stahl-Meyer K et al. investigated the effects of lysosphingolipids, galactosylsphingosine (GalSph) and glucosylsphingosine (GlcSph), on lysosomes in comparison to lysosome-destabilizing cationic amphiphilic drugs (CADs). The authors showed that GalSph and GlcSph induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and lysosome-dependent cell death in MCF-7 breast cancer cells and human fibroblasts. The authors also showed that the contribution of cAMP and Ca2+ pathways in inducing cell death was different in lysosphingolipids and CADs. Since GalSph and GlcSph are lysophospholipids that accumulate in the brains of patients with Krabbe disease and Gaucher disease, respectively, this study deals with an important theme and may be of interest to wide-readers. The data presented in this manuscript roughly support the authors’ conclusion, but the authors need to address the following comments to confirm their conclusions. Specific comments: 1. Figure 3: The enhancement of lysosomal permeability by GalSph (50 or 53 µM) or GlcSph (38 or 40 µM) is weaker than that of ebastine (12 or 16 µM). On the other hand, the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph is stronger than that of ebastine. Taken together, it is possible to consider the contribution of the enhancement of lysosomal permeability to the induction of cell death by GalSph and GlcSph is small. At least there should be some discussion about this contradiction. 2. Figure 5: It is desirable to analyze intracellular cAMP levels and Ca2+ efflux, as the authors did in a previous paper. In addition, it is considered that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using lysophospholipids in combination with a reagent that lowers cAMP rather than in combination with forskolin that raises cAMP. Similarly, it is desirable to analyze the lysosomal pH. 3. Figure 6F & G: Although the authors are measuring intracellular GalSph and GlcSph, it is desirable to measure GalSph and GlcSph in lysosomes, as is done in Figure 4. 4. Figure 1E-G: It is desirable to have positive controls for necrostatin-1 and ferrostatin-1. 5. P6L117: The authors describe fibroblasts from patients with Gaucher's disease in the Materials and Methods section but have not shown any results using these cells. 6. P19L456-462: The instructions in Figures 6D and 6E are reversed. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-22-09320R1Galactosyl- and glucosylsphingosine induce lysosomal membrane permeabilization and cell death in cancer cellsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jäättelä, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Reviewer 3 In the revised version, the authors have done some additional experiments and added some explanations about them. However, the interpretation of some results is not convincing and one of the required experiments has not been done. Therefore, the authors' efforts to improve the manuscript are recognized, but not sufficient. Specific comments: [Original comment #2] Figure 5: It is desirable to analyze intracellular cAMP levels and Ca2+ efflux, as the authors did in a previous paper. In addition, it is considered that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using lysophospholipids in combination with a reagent that lowers cAMP rather than in combination with forskolin that raises cAMP. Similarly, it is desirable to analyze the lysosomal pH. [Authors’ response #2] We have previously measured Ca2+ release after treatment with the lysosphingolipids, but the result has been inconclusive. We have also shown in the originally submitted manuscript that the knockdown of P2RX4 did not have any impact on the lysosphingolipid-induced cell death, and we therefore believe that lysosphingolipids does not induce rapid Ca2+ release like CADs. Our data suggest that lysosphingolipids and CADs induce similar manners of cell death, but they don’t induce cell death or lysosomal membrane permeabilization through the exact same mechanisms. Page 8 of 8 We have performed pH measurements, as suggested, to examine whether lysosphingolipids also neutralize lysosomes similarly to CADs prior to lysosomal membrane permeabilization. The lysosphingolipids did not neutralize the lysosome pH after one or five hours of treatments, despite the lysosphingolipids being weak bases like CADs. This new data is presented as a supplementary figure, S1 Fig and the results are described in lines 361-365, page 16: “Unlike CADs (50), the lysosphingolipids did not induce notable elevation in the lysosomal pH in MCF7 cells after one or five hours of treatments and thus prior to lysosomal leakage, when assessed after loading lysosomes with dextran coupled with pH-sensitive fluorescein and pH-insensitive tetramethylrhodamine (S1 Fig).” [New comments on the authors' response #2] In panel A, cAMP-dependent CREB phosphorylation was detected in 53 µM GalSph and 40 µM GlcSph, not analyzed in 40 µM GalSph and 28 µM GlcSph. On the other hand, in panel B, the effect of Forskolin on cell death was observed in 40 µM GalSph and 28 µM GlcSph, but not in 43-45 µM GalSph and 30-32 µM GlcSph. From this result, it is presumed that Forskolin does not enhance cell death even at 53 µM GalSph and 40 µM GlcSph. Therefore, from these results, it cannot be determined whether cAMP signaling is involved in the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph. Again, it is thought that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using GalSph and GlcSph together with reagents that lower cAMP instead of Forskolin, which raises cAMP. This experiment is easy to try. Additionally, in panel C, the authors also performed P2RX4 knockdown experiments and showed that the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph was not mediated by P2RX4. This experiment showed that the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph was not dependent on the Ca2+ release through P2RX4, but not denied that the Ca2+ release through other channels was involved. Therefore, it is desirable to present the measurement of Ca2+ release as conclusive data. The authors need to explain in more detail, at least not to mislead the reader, even if they do not perform this experiment. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 15 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Vladimir Trajkovic Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. 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However, the interpretation of some results is not convincing and one of the required experiments has not been done. Therefore, the authors' efforts to improve the manuscript are recognized, but not sufficient. Specific comments: [Original comment #2] Figure 5: It is desirable to analyze intracellular cAMP levels and Ca2+ efflux, as the authors did in a previous paper. In addition, it is considered that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using lysophospholipids in combination with a reagent that lowers cAMP rather than in combination with forskolin that raises cAMP. Similarly, it is desirable to analyze the lysosomal pH. [Authors’ response #2] We have previously measured Ca2+ release after treatment with the lysosphingolipids, but the result has been inconclusive. We have also shown in the originally submitted manuscript that the knockdown of P2RX4 did not have any impact on the lysosphingolipid-induced cell death, and we therefore believe that lysosphingolipids does not induce rapid Ca2+ release like CADs. Our data suggest that lysosphingolipids and CADs induce similar manners of cell death, but they don’t induce cell death or lysosomal membrane permeabilization through the exact same mechanisms. Page 8 of 8 We have performed pH measurements, as suggested, to examine whether lysosphingolipids also neutralize lysosomes similarly to CADs prior to lysosomal membrane permeabilization. The lysosphingolipids did not neutralize the lysosome pH after one or five hours of treatments, despite the lysosphingolipids being weak bases like CADs. This new data is presented as a supplementary figure, S1 Fig and the results are described in lines 361-365, page 16: “Unlike CADs (50), the lysosphingolipids did not induce notable elevation in the lysosomal pH in MCF7 cells after one or five hours of treatments and thus prior to lysosomal leakage, when assessed after loading lysosomes with dextran coupled with pH-sensitive fluorescein and pH-insensitive tetramethylrhodamine (S1 Fig).” [New comments on the authors' response #2] In panel A, cAMP-dependent CREB phosphorylation was detected in 53 µM GalSph and 40 µM GlcSph, not analyzed in 40 µM GalSph and 28 µM GlcSph. On the other hand, in panel B, the effect of Forskolin on cell death was observed in 40 µM GalSph and 28 µM GlcSph, but not in 43-45 µM GalSph and 30-32 µM GlcSph. From this result, it is presumed that Forskolin does not enhance cell death even at 53 µM GalSph and 40 µM GlcSph. Therefore, from these results, it cannot be determined whether cAMP signaling is involved in the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph. Again, it is thought that the involvement of cAMP can be clarified by using GalSph and GlcSph together with reagents that lower cAMP instead of Forskolin, which raises cAMP. This experiment is easy to try. Additionally, in panel C, the authors also performed P2RX4 knockdown experiments and showed that the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph was not mediated by P2RX4. This experiment showed that the induction of cell death by GalSph or GlcSph was not dependent on the Ca2+ release through P2RX4, but not denied that the Ca2+ release through other channels was involved. Therefore, it is desirable to present the measurement of Ca2+ release as conclusive data. The authors need to explain in more detail, at least not to mislead the reader, even if they do not perform this experiment. ********** 7. 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