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PONE-D-22-10808Children’s spatial language skills predict their verbal number skills: A longitudinal studyPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lindner, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. I have sent it to two expert reviewers and have now received their comments back. As you will see at the bottom of this email, both reviewers found merit in your manuscript, but identify a number of issues that notably relate to theoretical framing, methods, and analytic strategy.Therefore, although I cannot accept your manuscript in its current form, I would be willing to consider a revised version of your manuscript taking into account the reviewers' comments. The revised manuscript would be sent back to the original reviewers. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 11 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The question addressed in this paper is interesting and, as the authors state, the results are highly relevant by indicating that fostering children’s understanding of specific spatial terms may positively affect their future numerical development in the long run. Moreover, the paper provides a very elaborate introduction with a lot of background information. Nonetheless, I have some comments and questions that I would like the authors to address in a revision. For instance, to my mind, the methods are not very clear when it comes to the description of the sample size (please see specific comments below). In addition, the results seem a bit rushed. It would have been interesting to also see how relations between the control variables and verbal number skills change when including spatial language in the model (even though this was not the main aim of the study). This might have been especially relevant considering the lack of correlation between visual perception skills and verbal number skills. I also believe that the choice of control measures and the absence of their relations with the variables of interest needs to be discussed in greater detail. For instance, the authors could elaborate on the finding that visual abilities, as indexed by visual perception skills, did not relate to verbal number skills as it was the case in Cornu et al. (2018) and Georges et al. (2021). Furthermore, I believe that the conclusion that spatial language predicts verbal number skills 6 months later even after controlling for visual and verbal abilities should be drawn more carefully, considering the lack of correlations between the control variables and verbal number skills or spatial language. Overall, I believe that the study has great potential but that it needs further elaboration with regards to the analyses. More specific comments are provided below. Methods: •I am a little confused concerning the sample size. The authors indicate that: “In the present study, data of 75 children (41 girls, 34 boys) from T1, T2 and T3 were considered”. But then they report that the main analysis including control variables is only based on 36 children due to participants dropping out. By “drop out” do the authors mean that those participants did not follow the study through until the end or do they mean that those children were excluded during the analysis? If they were excluded at the analysis stage, it would mean that more than half of the children had to be removed due to missing values or outlier variables. This seems like a lot. Could the authors please elaborate here? •Regarding Table S1, why was “inside” for the first item not considered as correct? •Why was the “give a number task” not considered as a measure of verbal number knowledge? •Why did the authors decide to calculate a composite score for the two verbal number skill measures, even though they stated in the introduction that it might be useful to separately assess the effect of spatial language on different verbal number skills (“It thus remains unclear which numerical skills are specifically associated with spatial language skills of children.”)? •The reliability of the visual perception tasks seems fairly low. Might this explain the lack of correlation with any of the other variables? Results: •Looking at Table 1, why was data from only 49 children considered when computing the spatial language and visual perception measures, while data from 61 children was used for verbal number skills at T2? Does that mean that a lot of children had missing values or were considered as outliers for the spatial measures? •In general, the result section seems a bit rushed. Sometimes, it is not clear whether control variables have been taken into account when stating correlation coefficients. If I understand correctly, the correlation coefficients reported in the main text (but not Table 2) are accounted for the influences of the control variables. •So I assume that when the authors state that: “Children’s spatial language skills measured at T2 significantly predicted verbal number skills measured at T3, r(34) = .382, p = .022”, they accounted for the control variables including vocabulary knowledge at T1 and visual perception skills at T2? •Here, it is also interesting to see that the relation between spatial language at T2 and verbal number skills at T3 (in Table 2: r = 352) does not change when controlling for the covariates (in the main text: r = .382). Do the authors think that one of the reasons for this might be the lack of correlation between visual perception skills and verbal number skills as well as spatial language at T2? Moreover, vocabulary knowledge at T1 was not related to spatial language at T2. How would the authors justify the inclusion of visual perception skills and vocabulary knowledge as control variables in the relation between spatial language and verbal number skills? •To my mind, it is also surprising that the relation between spatial language at T2 and verbal number skills at T2 (in Table 2: r = 474) seems to be more pronounced when taking into account the control variables (in the main text: r = .554). Does the inclusion of control variables significantly change the relation between spatial language and verbal number skills? Did the authors consider including a regression analysis to answer this question? •Moreover, a regression analysis could provide some information on how the relation between visual perception skills and verbal number skills changes when adding spatial language as a predictor of verbal number skills to the model? Even though this is not the main aim of the study, it would still be beneficial to some readers to display these results. •From the exploratory analysis, it is also interesting to see that the correlation between verbal number skills at T1 and spatial language at T2 is stronger than the correlation between spatial language at T2 and verbal number skills at T3. Is this something that might be worth interpreting when discussing the reciprocal relation between verbal number skills and spatial language? Discussion: •The authors could elaborate on the finding that visual perception skills did not relate to verbal number skills at any time point (in contrast to Cornu et al., 2018 and Georges et al., 2021) nor spatial language (in contrast to Georges et al., 2021). In that sense, they might also revise their statement: “Thus, our results support the assumed relevance of spatial processing in reciting number words as well as in naming Arabic numerals [e.g., Cornu et al., 2018)”. Moreover, while vocabulary knowledge correlated with verbal number skills, it did not predict spatial language. •The authors state that: “In contrast to Georges et al. (2021), this association was observed for forward counting but not backward counting when assessing children’s verbal number skills”. If I understood correctly, the authors did not assess backward counting. Moreover, they did not measure relations between spatial language and forward counting but only looked at correlations with a composite score of verbal number skills. Maybe they could rephrase this statement. •The authors mention the low internal consistency of their spatial language production task and that the validity of their findings can, however, be assured given the similar findings of Georges et al. (2021). In this vein, might the low reliability of the visual perception task explain the lack of correlation with any of the variables of interest? Reviewer #2: The present longitudinal study examined the relation between preschoolers’ spatial language (locative prepositions) and verbal math skills. Results suggest a positive link between children’s production of locative prepositions and their concurrent and future verbal math skills. The research is timely and adds to the growing literature on the close relations between spatial and math skills. However, the paper lacks a good theoretical discussion (i.e., the mechanisms of this link). The methods section missed many important aspects, and I suggest using regression analyses. Below are my points that hopefully can help in the revision process: • The abstract is very broad, and I do not think it represents the details of the study. For example, sample size can be added, different results were not mentioned, and time points were missing. • The authors can also consider a broader definition of spatial language that includes the size or features of objects as well as objects' relations to each other (see, e.g., Pruden et al., 2011). Then, they need to tell why they chose locative prepositions and specify in the beginning that by the spatial language, they mean locative prepositions. • The authors presented relevant literature well. However, they could have emphasized the theoretical link between spatial language and math skills. In particular, I think the authors can add some theoretical discussion that would respond to the following questions: oWhy is it the case that talking about space (i.e., prepositions) relevant to math skills? What about other spatial terms? Would there be a specific link between producing spatial relations between objects and math skills? How strong is this relationship? Would age matter? • On p. 7, they need to tell which variables they controlled in the analysis for the hypothesis on the link between spatial language and verbal math skills. • The hypothesis related to verbal skills predicting spatial language six months later was not clear, partly because the time points and tasks at each time point were not explained before the methods section. Therefore, I would start the present study section by adding a few sentences on the general design and questions. Then tell the reader specific questions and hypotheses. • The participants section needs further information. Mean age and SD for T2 and T3 should be added. • What were the verbs in the general language skills assessment? I am asking because some verbs such as fly, fall, and run (motion verbs) can have spatial properties and could be counted as spatial. So if there are verbs like this, the authors could take them out in their score for general language skills. • The authors should have conducted regressions to address their research questions. Specifically: o For the prediction analysis of spatial language at T2 predicting verbal math skills at T3, the authors should have run a regression analysis adding age and general verbal skills as control variables. However, I do not think they should only report a correlational analysis. o For T1 math to T2 spatial language, I would also run a regression taking T2 spatial language as the outcome variable and T1 math as the predictor. They can again add age, general language skills and visual perception skills to the analyses. Otherwise, the correlations did not really control for the other possible variables on the link. Last concurrent T2 verbal math and spatial language analyses should be conducted. • Did the authors get any sex differences in their results? • I read the discussion assuming that the results would remain the same with the proper analyses the authors will conduct, namely regressions. My main point in the discussion is very similar to my points in the introduction. The authors need to move beyond the relations between variables but explain the mechanisms of the link between spatial language and verbal math skills. Why is it the case that understanding and talking about the relations between objects are associated with verbal math skills? What does spatial language add to children's math understanding? Is it because the task is verbal? • The authors may discuss both theoretical and practical implications (in relation to STEM education) of their results. • Another limitation is the spatial language task. The task involves only locative prepositions, but as I mentioned above, spatial language involves many other components, including verbs and adjectives. This should be added as a limitation. The authors currently only discussed the production task as a limitation (which I disagree with, as we usually receive a wider range of responses in production). However, one limitation with the spatial preposition task is the number of trials. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-22-10808R1Children’s spatial language skills predict their verbal number skills: A longitudinal studyPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lindner, Thank you for submitting your revised manuscript to PLOS ONE. I have sent it back to the original reviewers and, as you will see, both think that you addressed their comments and that the manuscript is ready for publication. I agree with that assessment. Before proceeding to the formal decision stage, however, I would like to give you the opportunity to address reviewer #1's point about sample size in the abstract. You may either remove the indication of specify the exact sample sizes used in the different analyses. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 01 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have done a fantastic job in responding to all my questions. I appreciate that the authors have now included regression models in the result section. I also like the fact that they have discussed the low reliability of the visual-perception task and elaborated on the findings that some of the covariates did not correlate with verbal number skills and/or spatial language. I only have a small comment regarding the abstract. I would remove the sample size from the abstract as the main analysis regarding the effect of spatial language on verbal number skills was only conducted on 40 children (and not 75). Apart from that I have no further comments or suggestions and I believe that the study is suited for publication in PlosOne. Reviewer #2: The authors addressed all questions and comments of the reviewers. I believe this is a good contribution to the literature. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Tilbe Göksun ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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