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PONE-D-21-38851 What factors contribute to the Scapular Assistance Test result? A classification and regression tree approach PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Pechincha Ribeiro, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please see the reports from four reviewers below. All reviewers appear to be positive about the contribution of the study, and have made specific suggestions for enhancing the reporting and clarity of the manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 05 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly Reviewer #3: Partly Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to review this manuscript. I think this research is fascinating, given that it presents a method for determining factors and their weightings in the outcome of a clinical test that is widely used in the clinical setting. Along with congratulating the authors for their work, I believe that there are sensitive points of the research that should be considered, about the relevance of the research and methodological aspects that will improve the robustness of the analyses discussed. Introduction -Please provide further justification of the other disorders described in lines 58 to 61 and how these should be considered in the context of SAT. One of the hypotheses that is inferred from the study is that these are predictive factors for the positive finding, so this contribution should be better substantiated. I suggest reviewing Nordqvist et al (2021) Physiotherapy. -Please provide further justification for the use of SAT in your research. In recent times there has been some discussion about the assessment of scapular motion in health conditions in the shoulder complex. On the other hand, SAT outcomes are also in question (see Lange et al (2017), Physical Therapy in Sport). Materials and methods -Please provide further justification as to why the following were considered as inclusion criteria: if they had atraumatic self-reported unilateral shoulder pain during flexion of the arm for at least four weeks since first onset and full active arm flexion (~150°) as measured 75 by a clinical inclinometer. -Please provide further details of the clinical inclinometer used. -Please include references to the tests performed on lines 79 to 80. -Please include more information on expert credentials. I suggest taking as a reference the article by Wainwright et al (2010) Journal of Physical Therapy. -Please clarify which test was used to determine the presence of scapular dyskinesis. According to the reference decreed by the authors, the criterion of McClure et al. is used. However, according to CART, it is classified as yes/no according to Uhl. I suggest reviewing Uhl et al (2009) Arthroscopy: The Journal of Arthroscopic and Related Surgery DOI: 10.1016/j.arthro.2009.06.007 -Please clarify whether SAT or modified SAT was used. According to the reference provided, modified SAT was used, however, in the manuscript it is presented as SAT. -In view of what was explained in the introduction, the reliability of the test results is unknown. If you could present reliability values, it would be of great value to clear doubts about reliability of scapular dyskinesis tests. I suggest reviewing Guerrero-Henríquez (2021) Journal of Manual and Manipulative Therapies DOI: 10.1080/10669817.2021.1972653 and also Lange et al (2017), Physical Therapy in Sport. -Regarding muscle strength testing, please provide further justification as to why these muscles are tested and not others associated with scapular dyskinesis, such as middle or upper trapezius. - For muscle strength testing, in the case of SAT-positive participants might have evidenced pain in LT strength testing, in what way did they control the appearance of symptomatology? -Regarding the muscle strength test, the authors state that three repetitions were performed. Please clarify whether the value used in statistical analysis was the average of the records or the maximum value. -Please provide an a priori statistical power analysis in relation to the sample analyzed. -Please indicate the procedure for selecting CART validation and training data. Results -Please, with a wide reading audience of the manuscript in mind, improve the presentation of Table 1: the units of the variables should be presented without parentheses (e.g.: Age, years) as it confuses with SD values in subsequent columns. Please remove the acronym SD from the columns, since it is explained in the table caption. Please indicate which p-values correspond to t-test and which to Chi2 test. Submit p-values with 4 significant values. -The ideas presented in lines 225 to 227 should be included in the discussion section. Discussion -The authors propose their discussion by establishing causal relationships between the variables. Given the context of the research, a causal relationship between the clinical variables analyzed is not adequately justified. I suggest toning down a bit the relationships that CART allows to conclude. I suggest reviewing Nogueira et al (2022) Wires Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery DOI: 10.1002/widm.1449, who takes a rather broad look at the problematization of causality and the use of different algorithms to determine it. -I suggest that the authors review the limitations of their research in accordance with the comments made. Reviewer #2: Review What factors contribute to the Scapular Assistance Test result? A classification and regression tree approach ABSTRACT 1. Describe the group of factors used in the analysis such as biomechanics, psychological ... what else? 2. The results about the angular of onset which was the main predictor should be addressed in the abstract. INTRODUCTION 1. The first sentence of second paragraph should be rewritten. The pectoralis minor length is not other factors but it should be considered as the underlying factors influencing the abnormal motion of scapular. 2. The underlying impairments reported to contribute to scapular movements and then could influence SAT should be listed. The factors might also should be introduce in categories as the authors addressed in the discussion. Methods 1. 150 degrees should not be considered as full active elevation 2. Please describe the test procedure of Scapular Assistance Test clearly. Did you have the participants perform movement before assisant was provide. How many times the participants have to perform elevation? When and how you evaluate the pain? Etc 3. Did you also assess the pain intensity during SAT. Please report the change of pain intensity in both positive and negative SAT groups. 4. The Scapular dyskinesis test was tested in which plane? 5. For muscle strength test, Describe the direction of movement that used for producing isometric contraction of SA and LT. Results 1. Table 1 should present mean±SD and number (%) Discussion 1. What is kgf? 2. If the scapular dyskinesis is not present, how the assisting force and direction applied during the SAT? 3. So the subject with high level of pain catastrophizing tend to have negative or positive results of SAT? 4. Please discuss more about clinical implication of the findings. Which factors or outcomes should be considered in people with positive SAT? Overall Please recheck the grammar and format of inserted references. Reviewer #3: Review Comments to the Author Thank you for the opportunity to review the manuscript. The study aims to investigate determine predictive factors related to the SAT in individuals with shoulder pain during arm elevation, and to analyze how these predictors interact in a nonlinear manner to discriminate the result of a positive and negative SAT. These factors are explored with a decision tree analysis. The manuscript is well written and described in adequate details for the most part. Please find below my comments for feedback. Methods&Results ・This study`s include criteria was “Individuals were included if they had atraumatic self-reported unilateral shoulder pain during flexion of the arm for at least four weeks since first onset and full active arm flexion (~150°) as measured by a clinical inclinometer”. You should add an explanation as to why this was the inclusion criteria. (Example. Non-traumatic or traumatic, duration of onset: 4weeks, etc.) ・This study described the limitation section. “Although a 2-point decrease in pain intensity was considered for a positive SAT, a register before and after the SAT was not registered”. The NRS score at baseline is likely to affect the SAT result. Is the NRS score not included in the inclusion criteria for this study? If it is not included in the uptake criteria, I think it should be added to the limitation section. ・In Results, the predictive model obtained an average accuracy of 92.9% and ROC area of 0.96. This model indicated good accuracy, but split was complexity. Therefore, it is difficult to interpret this model. How were splits selected in the tree (entropy or complexity penalty)? Also, the splits seem a little nuanced, given that the same variable is used more than once. Can the authors write a little about whether reported splits would be clinically relevant or significant? Discussion ・I believe that SAT positivity is a test to indicate scapular dysfunction, but the results of this study included SAT-positive participants with high muscle strength. The author may write some thoughts on how SAT positivity should be interpreted and utilized in clinical practice, including muscle strength? ・Looking at the PCS results (e.g., SAT negative with PCS score ≤ 8 points and > 35 points), I do not think the PCS score determines SAT positives and negatives. Please check my comments about decision tree complexity. If the PCS score does affect the SAT results, can the author speculate on the mechanism why this might be the case? Since the PCS score is also lower than the cutoff, it is by no means clear that a high PCS score affects the SAT results. PCS score is also lower than the cutoff value, so we cannot say that the high PCS score affects. Reviewer #4: Thank you to the authors for their submission. The paper addresses an important clinical and research topic and I am happy to review this paper again after the authors have addressed my concerns. I suggest to include some sample characterization in the abstract (at least age). In the first paragraph of introduction, I suggest to bring in a more detailed way what is the “problem in science” (relevance). Authors should consider to add more information from references 10 and 11 about Other variables as serratus anterior and lower trapezius muscle strenght in the introduction. It should be clear in the introduction whats the importance (what Fields knows and remining gap?) of adding these variables to the model. Only the pectoralis minor lenght was mentioned and this variable has not been evaluated. The authors mentioned that all data were presetend in the manuscript. However, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means and standard deviation also should be avaiable as a requirement from the Journal. I would suggest to add more information in the results description. Lines 243-245: I would suggest to make this sentence/association clearer and also add the reference. Line 248 – “the pain are likely dye to altered scapular motion” – I suggest to rewrite this sentence considering the several factos involved in the chronicity of atraumatic shoulder pain (patients had an average of 27 months of pain duration). Lines 249 - 252: please, consider to make clearer the findinds interpretation: increased pain catastrophising, increased ? pain at rest, decreased serratus anterior strenght. Lines 263 – 266: The study design and the findings presented may not support this suggetion. Line 267: “mediating effect”: I suggest a clearer definition of this term. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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