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PONE-D-22-05001Efficient training approaches for optimizing behavioral performance and reducing head fixation timePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Nasr, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers agree on the merits of the manuscript. However, reviewer 1 raises a significant number of questions, concerns and suggestions which do not require new experiments to be addressed, but will expand the analysis. In addition clarifications are asked, especially by reviewer 2 regarding references and a number of suggestions are made by both reviewers aiming at improving clarity. Please thoroughly address all of these concerns and suggestions. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 22 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors in this paper investigate how pretraining with freely moving animals can be used to improve the learning rates in head-immobilized tasks. Specifically, the authors utilize a unique two-choice discrimination task with a Y maze that can be used with both freely moving and head-immobilized animals. They use this apparatus to compare the learning rates of three different groups of mice: a) Ones in the freely moving task b) Naïve ones while head-fixed and c) head-fixed animals that have been pretrained in the freely moving task. The authors find a significant decrease in training required for the last group of animals. The question addressed in this paper is of great importance to the field. Given the requirement of many advanced recording techniques for head-immobilized animals together with complex behavior, their results provide support for using pre-training with complex behavioral tasks that the animals can generalize while head-posted. Moreover, their Y-maze design is easy to generalize over and can also be useful for many behavioral questions in the field. Even though the authors try to address a relevant question with a good behavioral task that can be applied in both freely moving and head-immobilized animals, I feel like it needs a bit more work to become much more useful to the field. Major: 1. Quantification and comparison of the behavioral patterns between the freely moving and head-posted version of the task is lacking a bit. Given the very short length of the results section the authors could augment them by looking into different parts of the behavior for already collected data. For example: a. As the authors have used the same animals between the two conditions, it would be interesting to know how the animal variability looks in such a task. For example, the authors could investigate the difference between the performance criterion for the two tasks across animals (each axis represents the performance criterion for the two tasks and for each animal in a scatter plot). b. Animals can perform complex movements in both tasks but only the movement speed is compared. It would be easy to compare other aspects of the movement such as distance traveled, rotations or even # of lane entries. c. It would be important to know the maximum performance that these animals can reach in each version of the task. Do mice that are trained on the air platform without pretraining reach similar levels of performance to pretrained animals? 2. Why is the performance of the freely moving task lower than the head-posted task? Is it the extra training the animals received or is it because of the “animals being more focused” as they mention in the discussion? In the discussion the authors need to clearly mention this. Is it also possible that animals need more days under water restriction to reach stable motivation levels as has been shown in rats (Vasilev et al. 2021)? 3. In Figure 6A I probably miss something. For the home cage training to reach criterion the animals required about 7 days of training which is >10hours per animal. In the bar plot of Fig. 6A the home-cage training takes <1hour. Why is that? 4. Is the backwards movement defined as a reference to the platform or the animals? From the discussion you mention freely moving animals moving backwards under certain circumstances, but I am surprised that animals can move 10cm/sec backwards. If is relative to the platform (so animals rotate while head-posted and then move backwards) would make sense. 5. I don’t think that the authors provide evidence that “most-natural behaviors are unaffected”, as I find this is too general of a statement. Maybe the performance in this task is unaffected, but I would suggest the authors tone down this statement. A nice experiment that would offer support for such a claim would be to train animals on the air-platform and then see if it improves the performance in a freely moving task. I don’t know if the camera used had enough resolution, but it would be also interesting to check for snout /whisker movements as they have been shown to correlate with sampling of peripersonal space (Kurnikova et al. 2017). Even though that might be beyond the scope of this work, it would offer support for this head-immobilized task being a “natural behavior”. Do you expect to have such behaviors or to have them disappear like the disconjugate eye movements? Minor: 1. A schematic representation of the various timing of training events would be very helpful, since this information is not in one place in the text and not very easy to find. 2. Why is there a different criterion applied in figures 5 and 6 (70% vs 75%)? 3. Text edit: “The mice were acclimated to being handled, and held by the head post during which they obtained a reward when the head post was manually held in place by the experimenter” would be better as: “The mice were acclimated to being handled, during which the animals obtained a reward while the head post was manually held in place by the experimenter” 4. I would replace the “improve the learning curve” with “improve the learning rate”. 5. “To minimize the time between home-cage training and Air-Track training as well as outside factors did all the mice undergo the surgery at the beginning of the experiment. “ -> “… outside factors, all mice underwent surgery …” 6. Two paragraphs after “Daily training routine: Common to both home-cage and head fixed training” are repeated. 7. Figure 3 should be used in the bias describing paragraph not 4. 8. “To answer the question regarding the naturality of the head fixed behavior, were the same mice, first used in the home-cage system and then transferred to the Air-Track” Sentence not clear. References: Kurnikova et al. Coordination of Orofacial Motor Actions into Exploratory Behavior by Rat. Current Biology 2017, 27 (5), 688–696. Vasilev, D. et al. Three Water Restriction Schedules Used in Rodent Behavioral Tasks Transiently Impair Growth and Differentially Evoke a Stress Hormone Response without Causing Dehydration. eNeuro 8, (2021). Reviewer #2: The author's compare training of mice in either head fixed or freely moving task and show that pre-training for headfixed tasks has some benefit, furthermore performance is not greatly compromised by headfixation. This work is important for any labs developing high-throughput means of assessment. "This is in contrast to the earlier work where mice had access to water for 7 hrs each day, and over 3 weeks of training mice only achieved 55% success rates in a cue-based licking task (Murphy 2020)." Perhaps it was not clear but in Murphy et al. 2020 mice were trained both in a 7 h a day mode and 24/7 (44 mice 24/7) and 8 females 7 h a day with similar performance. need to state that pixycam only works with visible light (colored). Gallinares et al should be Galiñanes et al. and is NOT in the reference list other references are out of order or missing Murphy et al. 2017 please carefully check the manscript and references for accuracy https://gin.g-node.org/nasra/Prior-experience-accelerates-training-of-head-fixed-miceon- a-floating-platform the data link did not work please fix ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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PONE-D-22-05001R1Efficient training approaches for optimizing behavioral performance and reducing head fixation timePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Nasr, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Though most reviewer's comments were addressed satisfactorily, there are a few more technical issues raised by reviewer 1 and detailed below that need to be addressed before teh manuscript is ready for publication ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 30 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I would like to thank the authors for addressing all of my concerns. I only have few minor points: Fig.3e, Fig4, Fig5, Supp. Fig.1a, would benefit if the statistical tests and the p values are mentioned in the figure legends. Supp Fig1c : Is the "rotating" bar from Day3 missing? Also are some of the error bars missing? The response to my point 1a is not exactly what I had in mind (days to criterion for each task in the two axis) but the data in Supp. Fig. 2 do provide the relevant information. For visibility purposes the authors can make that a line plot. Reviewer #2: no further issues important, nice to have the new citations about training this seems like a good paper they might cite this Vasilev, D. et al. Three Water Restriction Schedules Used in Rodent Behavioral Tasks Transiently Impair Growth and Differentially Evoke a Stress Hormone Response without Causing Dehydration. eNeuro 8, (2021) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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