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PONE-D-22-13499Bat dynamics modelling as a tool for conservation management in show cavesPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Măntoiu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ==============================Both reviewers agree that this manuscript presents an interesting novel technique but also express some criticism that the authors should address in their revision. This includes the addition of background on the the conservation status of caves and bat caves in the introduction, earlier introduction of the relevant bat species but also restructuring of the discussion. The latter should include a more thorough evaluation of the potential for the application of the novel methods for other sites both locally and globally as well as the transferability of conclusions drawn based on the particular bat species that were the focus of the current study. Please refer reviewer feedback below for more detailed comments. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 31 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I greatly appreciate the opportunity to have read your manuscript entitled “Bat dynamics modelling as a tool for conservation management in show caves”. I quite found the research itself very exciting due to the specific recommendations for management actions, and these recommendations were derived using information acquired by ensemble SDMs. Ensemble SDMs are a technique that I have not read about, so I was happy to learn a new modelling method. I think that the research is very fascinating and is a great addition to the literature. However, I feel that there are portions of the paper that might require a bit of restructuring and editing. I have written my recommendations below. Hopefully they are useful to you. Title: What I find interesting is that the title seems geared toward just show caves, but some of the sites you monitored were mines and other non-show caves. You might want to consider adjusting the title to make it less restrictive. The methods used can be applied for both non-tourist and tourist sites, and that’s neat! Abstract: I think that the abstract clearly stated what the research was about, had clear justification and a nice summary of results. Very succinct. I have a couple minor edits: Line 48: I would say (e.g., caves and mines) as bats are in other locations too. I do know that your paper is just about caves and mines, but I think it’s fine for the abstract to add in the “e.g.” Line 50: You can remove “may” and just say “if optimal patches become unavailable” Introduction: The introduction was well-written. I think it provided good background information to introduce the topic. However, I think perhaps you could briefly mention a little bit about ensemble SDMs. I noted that it was said why there are pitfalls to SDM modelling of SEs, but then ensemble SDMs are just mentioned as the method. Perhaps you could split up line 143 and 144, so that in the second sentence you can say something very brief about it (e.g., the benefit of this model type). The Woodman et al. 2019 manuscript that describes the ensemble SDM could be good here perhaps. Here, and throughout, check that you use the hypen for “cave-dwelling” and “crevice-dwelling” to stay consistent. Line 75: should it be “and” instead of “or” when you mention RELCOM? E.G: “and RELCOM 2007” Line 76: “cave-dwelling bat species” – remove the ‘s’ on bats Line 86: just nitpicky, but “select” could be used instead of “choose” Line 118: missing a space between “et al. 1998” Line 142: remove a period Line 149: Something here is amiss. Perhaps it should say “This novel approach was challenged by a series of limiting factors…” Methods: I keep wondering if already in the methods the species should be mentioned as the analyses and results are species-specific. I think this is my largest suggestion for the methods section. I only mention this (and probably state it below a few times) as I was made aware of these species in the results and it was unexpected. Check the use of hyphens versus en-dash throughout. The en-dash is used for ranges (e.g. September–October; e.g. line 166). I might recommend putting more information into the table descriptions so that they better “stand alone” unless the journal says otherwise. Line 156: “We chose” instead of “have chosen” Line 160/161: I would say in one sentence that you used flash photography. I would then state in another sentence that the work was permitted by the Romanian Academy. Two different topics. Line 162: I think this should come before the sentence on permitting. Line 169: I think that the years sampled could potentially fit into Table 1. Then you can just say “…and each SE was observed for two consecutive years between 2010 and 2016 (Table 1)” Line 170: What do you mean by “later period”? Line 171: I am not sure what you mean when you say “It was considered relevant”. Or perhaps, what is the purpose of this sentence? Are you trying to say that surveys were useful for model development? Line 173: I might say “The spatial extend of SEs was…” Line 174: Suggested edit: “The spatial extent of SE 1–3 was performed…” Line 178: What is the purpose of merging the maps in a single layout if the maps have different spatial references? Line 179: “mapping bat occurrences”? Might add “bat” for clarity Line 187: I would rewrite and say “We used the number of passes recorded by people counters (tourist passes) as a proxy for the number of tourists who visited the caves. Line 189: change “since” to “because”. Since refers to time Line 190: you say you considered attributing 100 passes, but you did do this. I would say “We attributed 100 human passes per year for scalability” Line 199: the degree symbol is before the C. should be flipped. Also the C is missing from the other value Line 218: change “holds” to “held” Line 222: Suggested edit “We included data on human-induced temperature changes (resulting from tourist presence and light systems) collected from show caves used in our study in our approach…”. Then you can get rid of the sentence on line 224. Line 224–233: All the information about temperatures read to me as results. I recommend moving. Line 244: I use a citation for the > 10 for VIF (e.g., Bowerman, B. L., and R. T. O’Connell. 1990. Linear statistical models: an applied approach. 2nd ed. PWS Kent Publishers, Belmont, California, Duxbury.) Line 265: “coefficient, SSDM R package” just remove the hyphen and use a comma Line 268: remove “have”, e.g., “we used a ten-percentile..” Line 273: This is a result, and I would reference table 2 with this. Line 273/274: This makes me wonder if the species should already be mentioned in the methods given how the models were developed. Line 275: Move to results section. I would also then take the last two sentences of that paragraph and put into the previous paragraph (perhaps just add to the end of the previous paragraph). Results: I think this section needs a bit of work so that it’s a bit easier to follow. I believe there are some methods mixed into the Results section that hinder the clarity. I’ve tried to identify where this happens. I also found that perhaps some of the analyses were not stated earlier, or at least were not clear as I could not match them to the results. Check for consistency on how you write the “p” for “P-value” as sometimes it’s capitalized and other times its lower case and italicized. Line 282: This sentence is a method if you are saying that they were considered a single group for modelling purposes. If that is the case, then the species might need to be identified in the methods section. Line 286: change “has been” to “was” Line 288: I think the part about selecting high temperature range variation is fine, but mentioning “to raise young” seems like a point for discussion and not really a result. I might just remove this part. Line 294–297: This reads as methods to me. Line 297: What do you mean by “acceptable values”? I would elaborate on this sentence in general. Line 303: This again reads as a method. The next sentence is the result of the method. Line 306: The friedman’s test was only mentioned for the number of species in each SE. Might need to check the statistical analysis section if you did an analysis on number of bats. Also, was this summed across all SEs or for individual SEs? I would clarify that in the analysis section too. Line 320: This is a method. Line 332/335: I would just list the species rather than saying “most”. Or say, “all species except XX” Line 358: So, I think I need the justification as to why the models were summarized this way. Perhaps this relates to the statements in the discussion (see line 429)? Table 3, 4: Check how many decimal places you use for the P-values. I might recommend also matching to the results section to be consistent. Figures 3–5: I think it would be beneficial to add to the description what the values mean, especially for someone who is unfamiliar with this type of modelling. Discussion: This section I had the most difficulties with. The analyses, as I followed, were very species-specific, and yet I am lacking a discussion on these species-specific results. Even a discussion on the clustering of species within the sites could be better discussed. I am going to assume that the recommendations for the management of each SE are derived in part from these species, and so I would recommend discussing what you found for the bat species. Further, there are some results in the discussion that should be moved. I would also recommend not using the acronyms/letters in the discussion. I would just say “early hibernation” for instance. It makes it a bit easier to read. I think those are fine to use in the methods and results. Line 384 and 386: I think references are needed. Paragraph starting on line 387: This all reads as results to me. You are mentioning your findings. In the discussion you should say how these findings broadly relate to the literature. You have species-specific info here: do your results match other studies? I think the last two sentences are discussion points. Line 401: I would expand. Break the sentence apart and reference some literature on the benefits of warm areas for bats during maternity. Could compare to how low temperatures are perhaps not ideal for rearing pups. Line 405, and most of this paragraph, read as methods. It’s the justification for why you ran the models you did. This section is listed as “Species distribution models” and yet there is no discussion on the outcomes of the models themselves in relation to the current literature. Is the paragraph starting with line 422 about the pros/cons to SDM versus the ensemble modelling? Line 429–432: Methods and results. Please move to appropriate areas. Paragraph starting with line 433: I think there are good things here, but that some more relation to the literature is needed. For example, you mention that the minimum temperature is important at the beginning of hibernation. Is this result the same seen in the literature? Line 441: Is the statement about optimal torpor temps your finding or something from literature? If literature, it needs a citation. Paragraph starting line 447 is results. Discuss more, for example, why you think the SDM values are higher in more complex systems. Line 452: What do you mean by “sensible species”? Line 453–455: methods; also I think you mean “susceptible to human disturbance” and not “sensible” here Line 470: this seems to be a description of a site (method) rather than a discussion point Lines 473–493: I am just not really seeing a discussion with the literature. Some of this is a description of the site which would go in the methods. Reviewer #2: I enjoyed reading the manuscript and I believe this is an important innovations in bat cave monitoring using a cost-effective approach. The applications of SDM to cave and subterranean prioritization is gaining such attention because of its huge potential to project potential areas for conservation and protection. Măntoiu et al. presented a detailed approaches and analysis of field data. It provides a useful guideline and techniques that benefits many bat cave conservation biologists. However, there are key things I wish to suggest that I believe will improve the narrative and impact of their work. First, in the introduction there is a lack of background on the state of conservation status of caves and bat caves, which is very important to really convey the importance of the work and it's implication. You may consider these new references How bats are dependent to caves? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01234-4 Tanalgo, K. C., Tabora, J. A. G., de Oliveira, H. F. M., Haelewaters, D., Beranek, C. T., Otálora-Ardila, A., ... & Hughes, A. C. (2022). DarkCideS 1.0, a global database for bats in karsts and caves. Scientific Data, 9(1), 1-12. State of conservation of caves https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/brv.12851 Mammola, S., Meierhofer, M. B., Borges, P. A., Colado, R., Culver, D. C., Deharveng, L., ... & Cardoso, P. (2022). Towards evidence‐based conservation of subterranean ecosystems. Biological Reviews. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abo1973 Ferreira, R. L., Bernard, E., da Cruz Júnior, F. W., Piló, L. B., Calux, A., Souza-Silva, M., ... & Frick, W. F. (2022). Brazilian cave heritage under siege. Science, 375(6586), 1238-1239. Also, mention the ecosystem services of cave bats and what is their current status in Romania. It is also wise to discuss what are current techniques and approaches applied to prioritize bat caves for conservation, this idea is somewhat lost in the current of the paper. It's good to inform your readers what are other approaches and how your current approach is unique and how it can be integrated to the ones that are currently existing. What are the limitations of both previous and current prioritization? What are the elements they have considered? The new approach was applied in the temperate region, is it possible to be applied in the tropics too where bat cave dynamics is a bit different? It's good to discuss this limitation and potential too. The paper started with a good and exciting narrative but the closing narrative needs a stronger conclusion and it's also worth mentioning the important caveats of the present work. I hope my suggestions are useful and I look forward for the revised version of this paper. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I am grateful for the opportunity to read the second draft of your manuscript. I think this draft is greatly enhanced, and I appreciate and acknowledge the effort put in by all authors. Overall, I found that my suggestions were considered and incorporated when appropriate, and I believe the same of the second reviewer. Again, fantastic work and a very interesting study. I just have a few small things I caught when re-reading the manuscript. One comment that can be checked throughout is that I think it’s ok to abbreviate the genus after it is written out once in each section (e.g., line 191). In the clean copy, check the following: Line 47: can say “management measures are proposed” instead of "were" Check line 345 for “only R. 18euryale” – typo. Line 250: can abbreviate species (as comment above), but also there is a typo “Rhinolophus 12uryale” Line 318: should it be 250.000 or 250,000? Line 436: remove the comma after “Myotis myotis / blythii” Line 475: can remove “in order” – not needed and will shorten the sentence. In most cases, if “in order” comes in the middle of a sentence, you can remove it and the sentence will still be correct (e.g., line 133, 140, 142, 475). Optional changes of course. Reviewer #2: I congratulate the authors for the revised version of the manuscript. I am satisfied with the revisions made by the authors and I have no further comments. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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