Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 8, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-10365Accuracy of vertical cup-to-disc ratio discrimination among clinical optometry trainees with different years of clinical experiencePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Mohd Izzuddin Hairol, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 20 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The main question that comes forward is qualifying as a technically sound manuscript. Following the description above "The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented." I am concerned that the research does not necessarily support the final conclusion statement as written, or at least a better description of how the conclusion is a leap from the data. It is well know that fundus photography does not show depth perception, thus to conclude that optometry trainees do or do not discriminate appropriately the VCDR off only 2 dimension photography seems to be a bit of scientific stretch. The conclusion only applies to whether optometry trainees discriminate the VCDR well in fundus photos, with lack of depth clues, not their performance clinically. There seems to be a leap of faith that the performance on the grading of photography (research data) will be the same as the trainees performance in clinic, per the conclusion. I encourage the authors to include a discussion on the limitations and transferability of measurements estimated 2 dimensional photography versus 3 dimensional clinically. The figures and tables were accurately reported. Statistics seemed appropriate and accurate. There was a case for using an n=30 but study was conducted on a much larger number and should only make statistics stronger (line 70-76) if including additional subjects. Methods appeared to be sound (line 148-150). There were a few discussion points regarding COVID and training (line 199) that start to delve into some explanation behind the results, however, I think time spent on the conclusion on above relevant topics would be prudent and encourage authors to include further detail. Strong references (line 34, 204) were including. Overall, a interesting study that may further help guide Optometry curriculum. Reviewer #2: The authors presented an interesting study evaluating the accuracy of vertical cup-to-disc ratio discrimination among clinical optometry trainees with different years of clinical experience. The manuscript is clear, its topic is original in content, and the conclusions are consistent with the evidence presented. The manuscript is with merit and the findings are worth reporting, but the authors should address the following comments before publication. - Introduction/entire manuscript o It would be helpful to have a graphical visualization of the optic nerve head and of the vertical cup to disc ratio for readers that are not experts in ophthalmology o Revise the use of abbreviations: an abbreviation should be explained once in the manuscript and after only the abbreviation (and not the full explanation) should be used – revise the manuscript correspondingly (i.e. cup-to-disc ratio (CDR), horizontal cup to disc ratio (HCDR) and vertical cup to disc ratio (VCDR) are explained in the introduction: only the abbreviations should be used after in the entire manuscript – for example at line 84 “Every fundus photo's vertical cup-to-disc ratio (VCDR)” should be replaced by “Every fundus photo's VCDR” ) - Methodology o Section “study participants” � The authors should provide the details of the name and location of the University/optometrist clinic where the study was conducted � The authors should provide a brief explanation of what the “cumulative grade point average (CGPA)” is, for readers who may not be familiar with such score o Section “Experimental Stimuli and Instrument”: how was the selection of the one hundred fundus photos made? One or multiple operators and at which level of training? The authors should provide additional details in this section - Discussion o The authors should provide insight about the future directions of this research and discuss the significance (from a clinical/educational point of view) of their results - Figures and Tables legends: the authors should provide the explanations of the abbreviations used in the legends ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Accuracy of vertical cup-to-disc ratio discrimination among clinical optometry trainees with different years of clinical experience PONE-D-22-10365R1 Dear Dr. Mohd Izzudin Hairol, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Alon Harris Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: The authors addressed all my comments to the best of their knowledge and the manuscript can be accepted for publication. Reviewer #3: The authors addressed all the comments of the reviewers, and corrected and added accordingly the manuscript ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No ********** |
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PONE-D-22-10365R1 Accuracy of vertical cup-to-disc ratio discrimination among clinical optometry trainees with different years of clinical experience Dear Dr. Hairol: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Alon Harris Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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