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PONE-D-22-09676Impacts of burn severity on short-term postfire vegetation recovery, surface albedo, and land surface temperature in California ecoregionsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Rother, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Reviewer 1 has indicated that major changes are required before publication and has provided thorough comments. Reviewer 2 has suggested the manuscript be rejected on the basis of lacking novelty, but this is not how manuscripts are assessed for PLOS ONE. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 06 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I'd like t congratulate the authors in getting this work submitted and into review. It is great, timely, and really nice use of the MODIS products. I enjoyed reading and reviewing the paper and it is clear you all put a lot of effort into making it accessible to the readers, researchers, and land managers that will be interested in it. Thank you for your efforts. I have compiled a few spots where the text will need some clarification listed below by line number - I believe most of these are just areas where the text could use some additional words to help it along or the methods you are using need some supplemental justification. Line 66-> "The growth" suggest changing it to this or that to indicate you referring to the growth in burned area from the previous sentence. line 99 -> While I agree that a comprehensive understanding of the biophysical response to wildfire and detailed spatial burn severity patterns are required, I do not think this paper will report on everything that is considered comprehensive in this case. As my reading of this paper, you do report on Temperature, EVI, RDNBR (and its components) measured from MODIS data. Some would argue that MODIS does not provide the detail necessary, and that these things that you are reporting on are not considered comprehensive enough (what about soils, more than 5 years of data after fire, more detailed than 500m data is available). Line 111: State should be lowercase. Line 112: Critical biophysical variables: please indicate which ones. This is your "I'm going to do this with that and want to investigate this thing" paragraph; you should tell us this info. line 140-143 AND Fig 1 caption: The reasons do not match. Please pick one or both and go with it. Table 1: Other ecoregions were excluded for low burn amounts, but Cascades experienced only 6% burn, which is remarkably low. Why was it also kept, if indeed that amount of burned area was that low? line 165: I would ask about the use of predominant when referring to TWO landcover classes, as predominant in a singular - I would suggest prevailing or most substantial. line 181: though it is indicated that EVI can distinguish between canopy and canopy background, it is not clear how that particularly matters in the case of burns that you are interested in. In a high severe fire, canopy, ground, and anything in between is burned. In a low severity fire, one would say maybe some canopy trees may die out due to fire, but the majority of the fire is at the ground level clearing out ground level vegetation. So, if this version of EVI is only reporting on canopy, then it would be quite problematic four your later analysis where you partition fires in severity classes based on cumulative distributions. line 207: NBR at each month, but, and this comment will surface again, when was this data used? I understand early summer NBR was used to calculate a number of items, but the later summer? Fall? Winter? Spring? There is no mention of those months data from here out. And, of course, apologies to the authors if I missed where they are used. line 213: LOW NBR values could also just indicate low vegetation and not just recently burned areas - it is a possibility worth considering. Line 214: Why was the decision made to look at fires at a homogenous blob - an area and not in a per pixel method. at 500, pixels, there can be a fair amount of variability, and this is ok., but when considering that fires have a growing trend over this time period under observation, you could be averaging something else when aggregating a large fire to an average. This question also occurred to me later in the manuscript, when discussing the spatial pattern. It registered with me that large fires occur over months sometimes, and over large areas, potentially burning through many varied terrains and vegetation assemblages. Also, this variation would potentially leave differing levels of burn severity and patterns. This seem to be brushed aside for a simple average. While I understand there are many ways to analyze these data, I would like to know (and likely other readers) why the decisions was made to simplify these fires to single averages. Line 214 part 2: Similarly, why report the area and number if pixels burnt in fires in the ecoregion back in Table 1, if they will be compressed down to an average. If compressed, your regressions for correlations will be on the averages not the pixels. Thus it would be helpful to know the n of the fires and timing of those fires instead of number of pixels under observation. Line 252: Again I am asking for some clarification - where were the monthly data used? It seems as if the obtained averages EVI and other variables from burn perimeters once a year for five years. Please clarify Line 253: not related to this line, but important to note here: were fires in 2020 considered? what was the last year in the time series to consider fires under observation. if 5 years post fire data is needed, then 2015 must be the last year fires can occur. This is not stated in the manuscript, and could be stated for clarification. Table 2: this is difficult to step through - and readers typically see a wall of numbers and skip over it. BUT I would suggest that there are some important points here. Where did the +/- values come from? Could this be better shown as a figure? It seems as if the X axis is missing its label. Again, number fires may be more helpful here too, as your unit of observation is an average within a fire perimeter. Line 304: Are there any years that are outliers? Perhaps very hot and dry years where fires grew so large and so hot burning throughout the season? line 322: reference to a plot that is not present in the text. Suggest adding see Figure 4a here. Line 324: how were these thresholds decided? At what point in the cumulative distribution - was it % ? was it an average? it is not stated in the text. Line 324: Another thought here: the time series is almost 20 years long, but how is the effect of time on this series? what id fires are larger and more severe at the tail end of the time series? line 344: Some ecoregions are prone to more severe burns, some less so. how is this understood in this research? line 344: The manuscript is mainly concerned with disturbance, but recovery is in the title. VERY little is actually said about recovery, and it is not exaclty disucssed what recovery means in this context. Vegetatively, ecologically, even numerically using the NBR/EVI/DNBR data. Please make it clear what is considered recovery. Line 167: going back to landcover decisions in table 1 - why were the "closed shrublands and woody savanna vegetation" combined into one category?" If there were distinct enough for the MODIS Science Team to classify them, should not be separate. In my mind, these are two very different land covers, with two different fire regimes. Line 358: Is correlating RdNBR with post fire NBR - it seems all too circular. post fire NBR is an essential component to dNBR, and thus RdNBR, so it make sense that they are correlated - they are expressing similar things. It is the further claim that post fire NBR is a powerful control on RdNBR that is unsupported. My analogy here is to cake. If you made a cake, you would find that flour is correlated with cake. it is not a surprise, and flour is not so much a control on cake as it is an ingredient. These lines feel circumlocutory. Please either remove or clarify or justify Table 4: the X axis appears un labeled. Also, what is being regressed here -> severity classes, landcovers, entire ecoregions? the text does not make this clear. line 374-397: Twenty three lines about recovery, though what recovery means is not defined. The manuscript implies that a return to pre fire levels of EVI is expected in five years is not met in any ecoregion. And that should be expected considering some of the ecoregions covered are needle leaf forests. line 418: significantly implies a test, and a p value. if this is not the case, I suggest using the word substantial instead. line 426: temperature here - change of 1.9K means almost 1.9 C, which is regarded as "not varying significantly (again suggest substantial)" but 1.5 degrees of warming in climate change literature is considered almost catastrophic. If leaning into using climate change (as is done in the conclusion) as a driver of fire severity and size, maybe put this in context better. line 437: the regressions - it is not clear again if they were completed on pixels or burn perimeter averages - or burn perimeter averages within landcover within an ecozone. please clarify the unit of observation line 459: the pacific north west is a region, but not contained in this study area. and the ecoregion in California was excluded as well. please rephrase for clarity - suggest just saying Klamath ecoregion. line 461: pattern and spatial distribution are not the same thing - pattern implies an analysis was completed on the spatial distribution, but the manuscript does not show that. I suggest omitting the word pattern here. Line 480: I can understand referring to NDVI, but there must be some research on fire that examines EVI also. The switch to NDVI at this point does not help the reader to understand what is happening. Line 481: suggest using a different word for furthermore - perhaps moreover. or further. Line 489: Stand Replacing. Not all ecosystems under observations are forests in this manuscript. I do not suggest using this forest centric wording. Line 521-523: I am unsure where the analysis on NDVI was performed in this paper. Is there a missing reference to another paper here? line 546: yes, i strongly agree with this statement. figure captions: in general these need more description, as they cannot stand on their own. Again, thank you for your efforts and this research. It is very interesting exploration of fire in CA using MODIS data products. Reviewer #2: This study used the MODIS-derived RdNBR dataset to analyze the impact of burn severity on the five-year postfire early-summer averages of EVI, albedo, and land surface temperature between the years 2003 – 2020. Generally, the paper is well organized and has good writing. However, the analysis of different changes of these parameters to the burn severity after the fire has already been discussed in the past studies, and it may not have a good fit for the journal scope in terms of lacking novelty. On the other hand, the spatial resolution of MODIS is too coarse to detect small-scale fires, resulting in the lacking of analysis of small-scale fires with relatively lower burn severity. Therefore, the overall merit of this study is low, and I cannot recommend publishing it in Plus One. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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