Peer Review History
Original SubmissionDecember 1, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-38018 Spinal pain patients seeking care in primary care and referred to physiotherapy: A cross-sectional study on patients characteristics, referral information and physiotherapy care offered by general practitioners and physiotherapists in France PLOS ONE Dear Dr. DEMONT, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we have decided that your manuscript does not meet our criteria for publication and must therefore be rejected. Both reviewers suggested some concerns. However, reviewer 1 indicated a major issues. Thus, your manuscript was rejected based on these comments. I am sorry that we cannot be more positive on this occasion, but hope that you appreciate the reasons for this decision. Kind regards, Fatih Özden, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Line 35. The sentence „the purpose of this referral is to validate the indication for physiotherapy care, to exclude potential red flags” is misleading. It is not appropriate to refer patients with suspected red flag pathologies to physiotherapists. I assume you agree. They should rather have imaging or be referred to a specialist, depending on the urgency and severity of symptoms. Line 40. I disagree that reference 3 is reporting under-referral to physiotherapy. It is a descriptive study. I even doubt that over and under-referral can reasonably be assessed. Guidelines a very unspecific about which type of physiotherapy should be used and how to select appropriate patients. Physiotherapy takes time and is difficult to fit in the schedule of working people, therefor some patients do The issue of overprescribing physiotherapy is not addressed. For acute pain PT is not recommended. On the other hand GPs are often pressured to prescribe massage, which is considered of limited value. Given that patients are recruited in physiotherapy and not in Genera Practice the questions of potential under-referral cannot be addressed with this study. Therfor this section of the introduction is not pertinent for the manuscript. Overall the rational for describing the characteristics of patients referred from GPs to physiotherapy is weak, given that the characteristics cannot be compared to those who didn’t receive a referral. Information on any other medical interventions is missing. Line 64. The STROBE statement is mentioned but the checklist is not available in the supplement. Line 67. Setting. International readers need a little bit more elaboration. In some countries patients have direct access to PT. Do patients need a referral? Is there a co-payment? If patients need a referral who is ultimately selecting which type physiotherapy is delivered the prescriber or the PT? Is prescription really so specific, in many countries PT assess patients and select themselves the therapy. This is important to understand why you are comparing GPs and PTs agreement. Which information on the patient is provided by the GP on the referral? Is there a standardized referral form (see also line 96 to 106) Line 126. A specific diagnosis can often not be established for musculoskeletal pain. Therefor LBP is mostly classified as unspecific. Most diagnosis are descriptive. Probably the term working diagnosis is more appropriate. Line 132-44. The criteria for assessing guideline concordance with referral to physiotherapy are not clearly stated. The list S1 in the appendix does not help to understand what exactly was considered in accordance with the guideline. I am not aware of any guideline being very specific regarding exercise therapy. How was education and reassurance provided by GPs recorded? The problem is even worse. It is reasonable to expect that GPs stick to a national guideline. However, expecting them to stick to various international guidelines seems inappropriate. Is there a French guideline which considered as authoritative for French GPs? It seems you are assessing use of evidence based PT and not compliance or adherence to guidelines. Line 207-214. See question above about how physiotherapy is prescribed in France. In some countries the number of PT sessions is tightly regulated. This need to be explained. Can GPs prescribe any number of sessions? Can PT influence the number of sessions? Table 5 needs more background information. It seems awkward that you are mentioning prescription of reassurance and education. First of all is reassurance and education something which can be prescribed. Isn’t it regarded as part of any intervention delivered in PT? Is reassurance not the responsibility of the GPs? Table 4 is difficult to interpret without better understanding how PT is prescribed an billed. Line 245-254. PT with training in manual therapy will always make a very specific functional diagnosis unlike GPs without training in manual therapy. Without information how diagnosis are coded, e.g. ICD-10 and if GPs and PT use the same codes or if the can pick freely the diagnosis the rationale for comparing agreement between GPs and PTs seems questionable. Line 265. Again, it is puzzling. Who is prescribing the GP or the PT? The discussion of the findings is week. Many factors which seems to be related to the French health care system (hard to say since it is hard to understand how PT is prescribed and delivered from the available information). Limitations are mentioned The conclusion has no implications for practice or research. Reviewer #2: Comments This manuscript reports the analysis of a cross-sectional multicentered observational study to evaluate aspects related to referral and proposed interventions by general practitioners and physiotherapists for spinal pain patients. The background and rationale of the study are very well posed, and the study aims are clearly stated. The study is reported following appropriated guidelines (STROBE). The use of a random sampling scheme at national level along with a standard questionnaire developed by a multidisciplinary team are major strengths of the study. Data analysis is properly conducted. The findings are interesting as they highlight a poor agreement beyond chance between general practitioners and physiotherapists regarding spinal pain diagnosis; and the overall low (high) evidence-based treatment referrals by general practitioners (physiotherapists) as compared to current guidelines. I commend the authors for executing and reporting a high-quality study; I have only minor suggestions for their considerations. Minor comments 1. In additional to the STROBE, consider double-checking if your manuscript includes all relevant information for reporting agreement and reliability studies (GRRAS; https://www.equator-network.org/reporting-guidelines/guidelines-for-reporting-reliability-and-agreement-studies-grras-were-proposed/). 2. When mentioning estimates of agreement using kappa, consider mentioning that is assessed ‘agreement beyond chance’, in contrast to absolute and relative frequencies that are no adjusted to chance. 3. As a methodological choice, the authors measured the overall raw agreement between providers for specific physiotherapy interventions prescribed or recommended by providers defining that the presence of at least two concordant physiotherapy interventions was a perfect agreement. I suggest discussing this choice as this seems the more optimistic scenario for assessing interrater agreement. Also, it may be interpreted as a ‘believe the positive’ strategy, whereas other strategies (e.g., ‘believe the negative’) could be used. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-21-38018R1Spinal pain patients seeking care in primary care and referred to physiotherapy: A cross-sectional study on patients characteristics, referral information and physiotherapy care offered by general practitioners and physiotherapists in FrancePLOS ONE Dear Dr. DEMONT, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 11 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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PONE-D-21-38018R2 Spinal pain patients seeking care in primary care and referred to physiotherapy: A cross-sectional study on patients characteristics, referral information and physiotherapy care offered by general practitioners and physiotherapists in France Dear Dr. DEMONT: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Walid Kamal Abdelbasset Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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