Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 10, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-16753A Multivariate Analysis to Propose Linear Models for the Stature Estimation in the Sabahan Young Adult PopulationPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Parash, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 22 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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In your statement, please include the full name of the IRB or ethics committee who approved or waived your study, as well as whether or not you obtained informed written or verbal consent. If consent was waived for your study, please include this information in your statement as well. 4. Please include a copy of Table 5 which you refer to in your text on page 11. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I have some major concerns over the scientific basis of the article. Stature is not the definite parameter in biological profiling since it follows normal distribution in each population. It will be more useful if the targeted individual is very tall or very short. Plus the best stature estimator is the femur (lower limb). The article should be written with these facts in mind without 'over-emphasizing' hand anthropometry. Other comments are as outline below. 1. Replace the word "gender" to "sex" throughout the article. Gender should not be used in such studies as gender is a social construct, the correct term is biological sex. 2. Line 71. "Hand morphometry offers crucial evidence in investigating crime scenes"- This statement is not true and needs to be rephrase. 3. Line 81. "The right hand length has precise parameters.."- How precise? 4. Consider diurnal variation - state what time of the day did you took the stature measurements. 4. Line 193. Rephrase the findings of the t-test. 5. Line 204-205. It is acknowledged in the literature that males are taller than females. Rephrase the sentence. 6. Fig 6 should be replaced with a simple correlation table to present the correlation between those five hand dimensions to stature. 7. Ethnicity has to be determined first before application of the formulae developed in this study. Provide demographic data for the people in Sabah. 8. Comparison with hand morphometric data of other ethnic groups in Malaysia. Are they significantly different that warrant specific formulae? Or are they similar that a general formulae for the whole population will be sufficient? 9. Language editing throughout the article, and especially on how to present and discuss the results. 10. Revise the article for grammatical errors, punctuation, and translation to English (Bahagian Perkhidmatan Akademik, Pusat Pengurusan Penyelidikan dan Inovasi). 11. Revise Table 4 and its caption. 12. Line 312-319. Include SD or SEE for each formula. 13. The formulae developed in this study are sex-dependent, what can we do in cases where the sex is unknown? 14. What other areas that may find hand morphometric data valuable? Include in discussion. 15. Line 408-409. Revise the statement. Reviewer #2: Dear Author, Thank you for the article. I enjoyed reading it. There are few items which needs to be addressed before the article is publishable. Issues need to be addressed are: 1. Missing stature abbreviations meanings. Example, LHL is not stated anywhere in the text. Not everyone will know left hand length is. 2. Minor grammar issues in Introduction and discussion. Line 74, 76, 81, 332. 3. Table 5 missing from manuscript. 4. Choice of Methodology: Stratified random sampling is acceptable, though I don't think it is suited here. The sample size data collection showcases a fixed amount of participants for each racial group. This is simple random sampling. There is nothing wrong with this methodology as well-when the analysis for each group is conducted in silo. It seems that all analysis are valid except for Table 9. In order to use stratified in this case, you will need to have the correct proportion amount of samples in the group based on the percentage in Sabah's demography to avoid over and under representation of population data. Good luck. Reviewer #3: Abstract line 21- handspan, handbreath, hand?, middle finger length Introduction line 68- what kind of personal identification? for individualisation. line 81- define SEE limitation and impact of stature due to ethnic variation should be emphasised. Methodology why was only the middle fingers were chosen? justify inclusion criteria - is there any difference between Malay and Malay (Bruneian)? line 105- it means that the model only applicable for 'pure' ethnic? Discussion how did the randomization of sample occur? line 332, 375 - 18 to 25 line 333 - Western Europe has the tallest countries? line 399 - COVID-19 or Covid-19, standardize. line 400 - university Any example or evidence that show malnutrition or disease cause growth retardation? and how does this correlate with the Sabah ethnic? Limitation of the proposed formula should be indicated. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-22-16753R1A Multivariate Analysis to Propose Linear Models for the Stature Estimation in the Sabahan Young Adult PopulationPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Parash, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 29 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Dear authors, Content-wise, I am happy with the revised manuscript. However, the manuscript needs to undergo another round of language editing. Revise the usage of past tense and past perfect tense in the manuscript. Grammatical errors need to be corrected: 1. Replace "gender" with "sex". 2. Replace "scoping down" with "narrowing down". 3. Line 86: There is no Reference no. 132. 4. Line 123 5. Line 136 6. Line 139 7. Line 156 8. Line 168 9. Line 253-254 10. Line 352 11. Line 355 12. Line 439 and throughout the manuscript. Reviewer #2: The author has addressed the issues raised by the current reviewer previously and the paper is now acceptable for publication. Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed. It is a pleasure to read the manuscript. It is a very interesting field to enhance the forensic investigation. Thank you. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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A Multivariate Analysis to Propose Linear Models for the Stature Estimation in the Sabahan Young Adult Population PONE-D-22-16753R2 Dear Dr. Parash, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Naji Arafat Mahat, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-22-16753R2 A Multivariate Analysis to Propose Linear Models for the Stature Estimation in the Sabahan Young Adult Population Dear Dr. Parash: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Naji Arafat Mahat Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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